CONTENT ADVISORY: This thread is not about Beaver football.

Energy policy is complex. one thing to consider is that US producers will never want to exclusively supply the US. They want a piece of that commodity action too. This is the US of A, and to only produce oil for the US, and likely have that oil price regulated or in some way controlled sounds down right commie to me. There is a reason our biggest refineries are in ports. not just to import the crude, but to export the refined products too. 

In 2019 the US imported roughly 9 million barrels of petroleum per day from some 190 countries
Yet exported about 8 million barrels... 

The US participates in the commodity market, so like it or not the outsize share of it all that OPEC controls still affects us. Think about it, how would a bill that demands US oil companies and refiners only produce and sell to the US go over? probably pretty poorly. 

As for energy, I agree solar won't do it alone. But Solar + wind + hydro + (the missing element) nuclear, can. 

US needs to get over fears of nuclear energy. Build them safely with modern technologies and not in the path of a tsunami and you are fine... Good enough for most our navy boats, should be good enough for our houses too. 

As for natural gas, it has become the issue du jour and it is rooted in human health, not efficiencies, power, or even really climate change. Cooking with NG is linked to a number of bad health outcomes including increased cardiovascular disease due to the pollutants it creates... It is an ongoing debate. I have a gas stove and I use it all the time, so... whatever. I also almost always run my vent hood...

Just to continue the fun:

Clinton never sent lawyers to all the states she lost demanding recounts, filed dozens of frivolous law suits and the news networks that favored the democrats in 2016 are not under multi-billion dollar lawsuits by companies that they claimed were part of the steal, or settling out of court, or posting apologies for making up stories in the first place.  And poor Rudy G.

All these stupid gas discussions ignore the fact that a year ago you could buy gas for under $2 a gallon, and oil prices at the well head had gone negative because there was no place to store what people were not using.  Why is it shocking that prices have risen now that demand is rising.  Oh, and all those lines and shortages because a pipeline company couldn't secure their network and it is the government's fault for that?  And why are we not making targeted drone strikes on suspected hacker locations, or at least taking down their network access - Russia needs us a lot more than we need them (I say this only partially tongue in cheek - these are terrorists) .

The entire world is bottlenecked by supply and production disconnects but that is all one country's government's fault, and the fact that the bottlenecks were in place well before the November election means nothing since it was the Republicans who had control of the Senate, the House and the White House for two years and all they could agree on was a tax cut for corporations that helped lead to rapidly rising deficits even pre Covid (you never cut taxes when the economy is strong, because then when things fall off a cliff, there is no way to increase them to help with demand for funding).

The whole $300 per week fed unemployment bump is sure keeping a lot of people from taking part time minimum wage jobs - what many of the employers want are the under 25 year olds still in school with no dependents and who are willing to live with 4 other people to split apartment costs - benefits, help with childcare and limited schooling, covid vaccination resistance, who cares?  It's the fault of an extra $300 a week that is going to run out soon anyway.

I could run on, but don't want to give away the rest of the set.  I will be here all week, try the salmon, the chef says it's only half farm raised, half escaped the pens and caught by trawlers.

It's getting rowdy out there.

  

CA Population: 14.3% over age 65

FL  Population: 20.5% over age 65
 
Florida has a significantly higher percentage population in the most vulnerable category.  This is not a political opinion, it's fact.  It is also not a political opinion Florida's schools, sports, and businesses have been wide open since late last summer while California has maintained school closures, curfews, travel restrictions, and business closures.  


CA: covid deaths 61,228  (.15% of population)

FL: covid deaths 35,731  (.16% of population)

The toll lockdowns and school closures will have on children's development and mental health in Oregon will be what? 

The addiction rate and mental health of those who lost their living, or life savings due to mandatory lockdowns will come at what cost to them, their family, and our community?

Do you care?  

We could save a lot of lives by limiting travel to "essential travel" as defined by corporate bank rolled politicians too.  Would you be ok with that too?

I wonder how those knotheads think they're going to lift that garbage can.

Kids have been learning for a year. And from what I’ve seen, their mental health is fine.

Now their parents’ mental health…that’s another matter.