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Post by TheGlove on Apr 28, 2020 17:07:20 GMT -8
For 2018, source US Dept. of Education Equity in Athletics Data Analysis (https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/) Spreadsheet on Google Drive: OSU 2018 Revenue and Expenses
Overall Athletic dept revenue was $82m Football made $12m in "profit" ($36m - $24m) Men's hoops made $123k, every other men's sport lost $. Baseball lost $2m. Didn't we win the CWS in 2018? Yes, we did. That trip to Omaha costs. Oddly, per this data, all women's sports broke even. No way. Also I find it hard to believe that Women's rowing had $1.6m in revenue. So OSUprof or anyone else know how these figures are calculated? NCAA.org requires creating an account. |
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Post by bennyskid on Apr 28, 2020 17:35:54 GMT -8
There is no standard for how these numbers are reached. So, for example, if the athletic department signs a promo deal with Toyota for $1,000,000, there are no rules for how that money gets allocated in the budget for the specific sports. They could mark it all as Rowing revenue if they wanted.
What it looks like they did is they applied as much of this "soft" money to the various women's sports so that they all "broke even", on the theory that women's sports are required by Title IX and therefore any loss in those sports is irrelevant. That's roughly $10-12 million in revenues that probably should be in the football/mbb/baseball columns. We'll never know.
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Apr 28, 2020 18:35:29 GMT -8
I realize that on a sports fan site that what I'm going to say may not be popular but I hope that universities put a higher importance on the students and getting them safely back on campus and then worry about the athletes. Agreed. I think that the university's financial priority is creating a safe pathway to the students to return to campus in September. If not, the financial pain that the university incurs will continue to mount. The return of sports to college campuses will have its own challenges and will be treated as a secondary concern by school administration. No students back on campus = no collegiate sports www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/commissioners-tell-vp-mike-pence-college-sports-wont-be-back-until-students-return-to-campus/ |
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Apr 28, 2020 19:06:39 GMT -8
I realize that on a sports fan site that what I'm going to say may not be popular but I hope that universities put a higher importance on the students and getting them safely back on campus and then worry about the athletes. Agreed. I think that the university's financial priority is creating a safe pathway to the students to return to campus in September. If not, the financial pain that the university incurs will continue to mount. The return of sports to college campuses will have its own challenges and will be treated as a secondary concern by school administration. No students back on campus = no collegiate sports www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/commissioners-tell-vp-mike-pence-college-sports-wont-be-back-until-students-return-to-campus/I had not seen that article, thanks for posting. |
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Post by rmancarl on Apr 28, 2020 20:36:36 GMT -8
So, let's talk about "no sudents on campus". Let's talk Italy, one of the hardest hit countries.
A country of 65 million, as of April 27th, Italy had 24,780 covid-19 deaths. Of those deaths, only 2 were under 20 years old. 10 were under 30. 282 were under 50. 83% of the 24,780 deaths, were 70 or over.
I have to wonder how long limitations will remain on the younger population, rather than concentrating on expending additional efforts keeping us old (I'm 60+) folks safe. I don't know the answer, and I'm not advocating for any certain position at this point. I'm just questioning how long schools will remain closed as long as the danger to youth remains low. With what he have already learned thru safe practices, and with additional learning, and possibly even treatments over the next few months, I'll be a little surpirsed if people don't start demanding a return to school just as they are going stir crazy now, and clammering to open things up.
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Post by beaveragain on Apr 28, 2020 21:07:06 GMT -8
It wasn't worry for the students that closed the schools. It was the teachers and their subs. Difficult to operate schools without teachers.
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Apr 28, 2020 21:09:30 GMT -8
The problem isn't that the young will die. Same as has been and still is. The issue is increasing the number of infected people, both symptomatic and asymptomatic, running around and increasing the chance that those in the high risk categories are exposed.
Then there is the potential that the more it spreads the higher chance that it can mutate into something that puts younger people at risk.
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Apr 29, 2020 11:12:48 GMT -8
It wasn't worry for the students that closed the schools. It was the teachers and their subs. Difficult to operate schools without teachers. A very good point in that not everybody on a campus is less than 30. As schools feel mounting pressure to reopen if the virus trending news continues to be positive, it will be critical to see how schools deal with students and teachers becoming infected. Will it be business as usual as a student or teacher simply stays home on quarantine, or will it be a panic during which others who are not infected stay home as well. I think that is one of the great uncertainties with respect to how people will react when those that were around them are no longer around them. We will likely see that as well in the workplace. You can bet that absenteeism will be up and a continuing desire to work remotely will be the norm for those who have jobs and can do so. |
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Post by sagebrush on Apr 29, 2020 11:36:21 GMT -8
Fall and winter sports are toast. There will not be a vaccine in time and it just wouldn't be smart to jam people together.
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Post by beavs6 on Apr 29, 2020 12:04:35 GMT -8
Fall and winter sports are toast. There will not be a vaccine in time and it just wouldn't be smart to jam people together. I don't necessarily think they are toast. Lots can happen over 2-6 months. I just don't think everything is black or white. There is LOTS of room for grey. We will see. |
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Post by mbabeav on Apr 29, 2020 12:27:06 GMT -8
Fall and winter sports are toast. There will not be a vaccine in time and it just wouldn't be smart to jam people together. I don't necessarily think they are toast. Lots can happen over 2-6 months. I just don't think everything is black or white. There is LOTS of room for grey. We will see. only chance is a tv only pay per view type situation - would you be ready to pack Gill or football especially if you are over 50 and haven't had the disease and even if there is a new vaccine, there might be only millions of doses for billions of people. |
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Post by sparty on Apr 29, 2020 12:30:47 GMT -8
Fall and winter sports are toast. There will not be a vaccine in time and it just wouldn't be smart to jam people together. That is why you won't see a point guard sign which is badly needed. They are more likely to sign in a state that will open up. Scott lost a lot with this pandemic. Heck, we are not sure if the vaccine with be any more reliable than the hit or miss flu vaccine. How many seasons with these athletes wait around? |
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Post by sparty on Apr 29, 2020 12:32:59 GMT -8
I don't necessarily think they are toast. Lots can happen over 2-6 months. I just don't think everything is black or white. There is LOTS of room for grey. We will see. only chance is a tv only pay per view type situation - would you be ready to pack Gill or football especially if you are over 50 and haven't had the disease and even if there is a new vaccine, there might be only millions of doses for billions of people. Heck, obesity if a huge factor. There are 60 year olds that are in better health than the McDonalds drive up crew at 300 plus pounds in their 30's. If you are obese you dont get in, period. Mandate weight restrictions for jobs too and for flying. |
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Apr 29, 2020 13:56:10 GMT -8
only chance is a tv only pay per view type situation - would you be ready to pack Gill or football especially if you are over 50 and haven't had the disease and even if there is a new vaccine, there might be only millions of doses for billions of people. Heck, obesity if a huge factor. There are 60 year olds that are in better health than the McDonalds drive up crew at 300 plus pounds in their 30's. If you are obese you dont get in, period. Mandate weight restrictions for jobs too and for flying. Sparty is really looking to change things up related to sports attendance. I recognize that change is inevitable following this crisis, but I don't think that weight-related limits for attendance are in our immediate future in this country. |
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Post by mbabeav on Apr 29, 2020 14:43:25 GMT -8
Heck, obesity if a huge factor. There are 60 year olds that are in better health than the McDonalds drive up crew at 300 plus pounds in their 30's. If you are obese you dont get in, period. Mandate weight restrictions for jobs too and for flying. Sparty is really looking to change things up related to sports attendance. I recognize that change is inevitable following this crisis, but I don't think that weight-related limits for attendance are in our immediate future in this country. I want to get back to the games as bad as Sparty does, but gotta go with generic guidelines when talking about risk factors, or you would have people having to step on scales, put on blood pressure cuffs, get lung capacity tests, show doctor's notes listing a lack of heart disease and several other things before they could get into the stadiums. |
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