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Post by beavershoopsfan on Apr 27, 2020 21:17:20 GMT -8
I hate to be the bearer of good news, but some Oxford group has announced a vaccine that they'll start human trials on in May. The took another virus, genetically modified it to look like COVID, and injected it into 6 rhesus monkeys, then exposed them to large amounts of the COVID virus, and none got sick. Unvaccinated monkeys all got sick. Apparently, there's not much difference between a rhesus monkey and a human (something I've always believed), so they're confident this is going to work. They had a head start because they'd already proven the approach using the MERS virus last year. Could have millions of doses available by September. So I guess there's now a much better chance for school and sports to resume as early as January or in the spring if they can get a quick approval. From the NY Times: Immunity in monkeys doesn’t guarantee that a vaccine will protect people, but it’s an encouraging sign. If the May trials go well and regulators grant emergency approval, the Oxford scientists say they could have a few million doses of their vaccine available by September — months ahead of other vaccine projects.
“It is a very, very fast clinical program,” said Emilio Emini of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which is helping to finance a number of competing efforts.Please keep the good news coming, Thickhead. Much appreciated.... |
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Post by 411500 on Apr 28, 2020 7:33:23 GMT -8
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Apr 28, 2020 9:14:22 GMT -8
FCS schools do not share in lucrative TV rights deals. FBS schools, especially P5 schools, do. Pac-12, ACC, Big Ten, SEC and Big 12 schools do not lose money on football. It's ludicrous for anyone to suggest otherwise. Almost all schools lose money on volleyball and women's basketball, too. Are they money pits as well? |
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Post by ochobeavo on Apr 28, 2020 9:32:49 GMT -8
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Post by TheGlove on Apr 28, 2020 9:45:23 GMT -8
FCS schools do not share in lucrative TV rights deals. FBS schools, especially P5 schools, do. Pac-12, ACC, Big Ten, SEC and Big 12 schools do not lose money on football. It's ludicrous for anyone to suggest otherwise. Almost all schools lose money on volleyball and women's basketball, too. Are they money pits as well? Exactly. FCS formerly known as Division 1AA is not big time college football. It's the tier below where OSU and the other Power 5 conferences play. Now called FBS and formerly known as Division 1A. Pretty much every big time school uses football and/or men's basketball to finance the remainder of the sports. Every school is different on how the athletic department's are funded though. Some use general funds, state support, student fees, on and on and on. Some handle the accounting costs of scholarships differently. Then you have the private schools where we don't have any visibility. |
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Post by 411500 on Apr 28, 2020 10:08:50 GMT -8
Thanks for the info....The Bloomberg post I cited is not relevant to our discussion. Sorry. I usually don't make that kind of error.
GO BEAVS !!
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Post by 411500 on Apr 28, 2020 11:08:21 GMT -8
Does OSU post anywhere a summary of annual football income alongside annual football expenses?
I'm curious to know just how much money the football program actually gains each year.
GO BEAVS !!
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Post by beaveragain on Apr 28, 2020 12:22:10 GMT -8
Does OSU post anywhere a summary of annual football income alongside annual football expenses? I'm curious to know just how much money the football program actually gains each year. GO BEAVS !! You'd need a team of forensic accountants to figure it all out. University's have spent lots of time and effort into hiding income sources and expenditures for athletics. |
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Post by 411500 on Apr 28, 2020 12:37:52 GMT -8
Does OSU post anywhere a summary of annual football income alongside annual football expenses? I'm curious to know just how much money the football program actually gains each year. GO BEAVS !! You'd need a team of forensic accountants to figure it all out. University's have spent lots of time and effort into hiding income sources and expenditures for athletics. If that is the case, how do we know that football "pays" for the other revenue losing programs? GO BEAVS !! |
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Post by beaveragain on Apr 28, 2020 13:13:26 GMT -8
You'd need a team of forensic accountants to figure it all out. University's have spent lots of time and effort into hiding income sources and expenditures for athletics. If that is the case, how do we know that football "pays" for the other revenue losing programs? GO BEAVS !! You don't. But football is by far the highest income producer from ticket sales due to numbers and ticket costs. |
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Post by 411500 on Apr 28, 2020 13:53:35 GMT -8
beaveragain...I get what you're saying, but what you're saying doesn't mean football pays for everything else. I doesn't even mean it pays for itself.
That's why I'm hoping someone might have the real numbers of football revenue versus football expenses...
GO BEAVS !!
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Post by mbabeav on Apr 28, 2020 14:06:06 GMT -8
From the NY Times: Immunity in monkeys doesn’t guarantee that a vaccine will protect people, but it’s an encouraging sign. If the May trials go well and regulators grant emergency approval, the Oxford scientists say they could have a few million doses of their vaccine available by September — months ahead of other vaccine projects.
“It is a very, very fast clinical program,” said Emilio Emini of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which is helping to finance a number of competing efforts.Please keep the good news coming, Thickhead. Much appreciated.... A few million doses, and 7 billion people to vaccinate, not sure when my number will get picked |
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Post by fishwrapper on Apr 28, 2020 15:28:50 GMT -8
beaveragain...I get what you're saying, but what you're saying doesn't mean football pays for everything else. I doesn't even mean it pays for itself. That's why I'm hoping someone might have the real numbers of football revenue versus football expenses... GO BEAVS !! I don't know how "real" these numbers are; they were trotted out two years ago for one of the many campus budget planning conversations that happen from time to time. fa.oregonstate.edu/sites/fa.oregonstate.edu/files/budget/budget_convers/budget_conversations-athletics-2.1.2018.pdfThe rough bottom line suggests that football - for a Feb 1, 2018 presentation - had enough revenues to cover its expenses, and was the contributing factor to overall department revenues. Still, for the FY19-20 budget, the payment to athletics from the academic side was close to eight megabucks; the athletics enterprise has not been self-financing at all in the twenty-first century; even with the Pac12 distributions after the big TV deal. |
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Apr 28, 2020 15:36:57 GMT -8
I realize that on a sports fan site that what I'm going to say may not be popular but I hope that universities put a higher importance on the students and getting them safely back on campus and then worry about the athletes.
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Post by TheGlove on Apr 28, 2020 16:05:43 GMT -8
You'd need a team of forensic accountants to figure it all out. University's have spent lots of time and effort into hiding income sources and expenditures for athletics. If that is the case, how do we know that football "pays" for the other revenue losing programs? GO BEAVS !! Our resident expert is OSUprof Maybe he will chime in. |
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