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Post by believeinthebeavs on Mar 13, 2020 14:12:34 GMT -8
I don't think to give every Sr an extra year is justified just because of the canceled playoff. I do think that players like Kat and the girl from Utah who applied for an injury waiver for an extra year of eligibility should have their requests reconsidered. In their case, it is not just about stats and winning a championship, but issues that impact their future in basketball. As I have posted previously, it is important for players like Kat to have a successful Sr season. That will impact at what level they will continue their basketball careers. That level will impact their salaries and their salaries will influence how long they will be able to make it their career. As every Oregon St fan knows, it was not until the last few games that Kat even got back to last year's level of play. The gal from Utah never even got close this year. The NCAA is still functioning under the premise that in WCBB it is about getting a scholarship to enhance their future career and earning opportunities. It never occurs to them that basketball might be that future career and earning opportunity. When they do not allow a player their last year to show what they can do they severely impact thair opportunities. The present situation should be used as an opportunity to correct an injustice. If they are even considering any sort of mitigation for the lost games of the NCAA's, granting formerly refused waiver requests for players in Kats situation should be at the head of the list. Kat should resubmit her application for a waiver for next year. Provo from Utah was already granted an extra year of eligibility. She was a Sr. during the 2018-19 season. Then a Sr. again in 2019-20. Are you suggesting she should get 6 years of eligibility? This was her sixth year. |
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Post by TheGlove on Mar 13, 2020 14:24:48 GMT -8
The NCAA announced today they are in favor of giving all spring athletes another year. They are not going to give winter athletes the same because they all played their whole schedule. Playoffs is not a given regular season games are. Seems very reasonable even for the NCAA. NCAA made an announcement about extending eligibility for spring sport athletes. Details to be ironed out in the coming weeks. |
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Mar 13, 2020 14:26:45 GMT -8
Spring sports are fine, winter sports were basically done.
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Mar 13, 2020 14:40:25 GMT -8
Spring sports are fine, winter sports were basically done. But for many winter sport athletes, their conference tournaments and/or other postseason (NCAA or NIT) tourneys were not done. The easiest solution is to simply state that most of the winter sports seasons were completed and move on. However, it is encouraging that the early dialogue also includes potential remedies for those student-athletes impacted by the basketball tournaments being cancelled. We all know that there all lots of logistical issues to discuss and work out related to doing anything for the winter sports athletes, but I am pleased that they are being included in some of the early discussions. There is already an early verbal commitment by NCAA administration to take care of the spring season student-athletes as others have noted. |
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Mar 13, 2020 14:55:55 GMT -8
Ncaa considers the preconference and conference games the season since there is a maximum number of games and most, if not all, teams play that number. That makes preconference tournaments valuable because they allow an extra game. Since there is no guarantee that a team would play more than one game, assuming all conferences have their own tournaments, I don't see a way to grant every senior an extra year. What about the team's whose season was already over, those seniors get another year? If you are giving seniors an additional year shouldn't all players get an additional year since they missed as much as the seniors?
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Mar 13, 2020 16:11:51 GMT -8
Lots of compelling reasons not to extend an extra season to seniors who had their careers concluded prematurely by the cancellations of the tournaments. Lots of logistics that would need to be worked out if the NCAA allowed the additional season for seniors. Moving on is what the seniors will likely have to do without an unprecedented pro-student-athlete decision made by the NCAA.
For those seniors whose competitive careers now appear to be over and still would want to compete and study more, I would be in favor of seeing them have that opportunity. Life is often rife with disappointment. If a pro-student-athlete decision can be made that would help out those who want to play one more season and further their education, I don't think that be be a bad thing.
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Post by shelby on Mar 13, 2020 16:26:56 GMT -8
And, depending on how long this thing persists - the timing and opportunity for pro careers in various sports can also be impacted !
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Post by beaveragain on Mar 13, 2020 16:29:14 GMT -8
would it be impossible to just delay the seasons a month? Never let common sense get in the way of a good story!! Please excuse my stupidity. Why would this be against common sense? |
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Mar 13, 2020 17:06:21 GMT -8
And, depending on how long this thing persists - the timing and opportunity for pro careers in various sports can also be impacted ! as will the pro sport itself. True. The 12-16 college seniors who would typically make a roster each new season likely will not have the WNBA to play in based upon how soon the WNBA season is approaching. With the global pandemic underway, pro sports in all countries will be shut down indefinitely. College educations will be undertaken via distance learning, if at all, beginning with the spring term all across our country for what could be an extended period. No one knows how long this social distance response will be required. Just looking to somehow provide additional hope to those seniors across the country who had their collegiate careers go from excitement to shock and disappointment in a matter of a few days. Hope can go a long way to combatting unexpected disappointment. The senior student-athletes across our country will be spending the final two to three months of their college experience without the benefit of the typical college experience on campus. As a previous poster stated, it does suck. Some administrators are simply trying to make it suck a little less for the seniors. |
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Post by zeroposter on Mar 13, 2020 17:19:22 GMT -8
as will the pro sport itself. True. The 12-16 college seniors who would typically make a roster each new season likely will not have the WNBA to play in based upon how soon the WNBA season is approaching. With the global pandemic underway, pro sports in all countries will be shut down indefinitely. College educations will be undertaken via distance learning, if at all, beginning with the spring term all across our country for what could be an extended period. No one knows how long this social distance response will be required. Just looking to somehow provide additional hope to those seniors across the country who had their collegiate careers go from excitement to shock and disappointment in a matter of a few days. Hope can go a long way to combatting unexpected disappointment. The senior student-athletes across our country will be spending the final two to three months of their college experience without the benefit of the typical college experience on campus. As a previous poster stated, it does suck. Off topic, but it was mentioned again in this post. Oregon State has one of the best on-line systems in the country. Thumbs up to Oregon State. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2020 17:39:09 GMT -8
Very hard to anticipate a return of any college sports, at least for a long time until a high enough fraction of people have had it and are immune to COVID-19, so that the R-naught is greatly reduced. Some experts are saying it will come back strong in the fall, and there could even be mutations that are more deadly. If its rate of spread is reduced during summer, it'll still come back in the fall, just like the common cold, which is another coronavirus. It won't go away. Be prepared for the possibilty of no football or basketball or gymnastics ... or maybe even school. This is a life-altering event for the entire world. China may be saying they're past "the peak", but wait and see.... They put the economy before their most vulnerable citizens, and in the USA we can't do that.
PS: An effective vaccine they say is at least a year away. That's probably the only thing that can give us some assurance of a resumption of normal operations in sports and school. So perhaps by fall term of NEXT year there could be some semblance of normalcy. The 2020-2021 college sports season could be a total bust.
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Post by shelby on Mar 13, 2020 17:43:23 GMT -8
And, depending on how long this thing persists - the timing and opportunity for pro careers in various sports can also be impacted !
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Mar 13, 2020 18:10:54 GMT -8
Very hard to anticipate a return of any college sports, at least for a long time until a high enough fraction of people have had it and are immune to COVID-19, so that the R-naught is greatly reduced. Some experts are saying it will come back strong in the fall, and there could even be mutations that are more deadly. If its rate of spread is reduced during summer, it'll still come back in the fall, just like the common cold, which is another coronavirus. It won't go away. Be prepared for the possibilty of no football or basketball or gymnastics ... or maybe even school. This is a life-altering event for the entire world. China may be saying they're past "the peak", but wait and see.... They put the economy before their most vulnerable citizens, and in the USA we can't do that. PS: An effective vaccine they say is at least a year away. That's probably the only thing that can give us some assurance of a resumption of normal operations in sports and school. So perhaps by fall term of NEXT year there could be some semblance of normalcy. The 2020-2021 college sports season could be a total bust. I fear that thickhead's predictions above may be reflecting what many experts are speculating. His post above is dismal, but it may be what our next year looks like. If so, the idea of granting an additional season to seniors may be a moot point. |
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Post by newduke2 on Mar 14, 2020 4:01:13 GMT -8
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Post by sagebrush on Mar 14, 2020 5:47:28 GMT -8
If you grant seniors another year of eligibility, or if you simply write off the season for all spring sports like they never happened, in effect giving every player an extra medical redshirt year, how do you accommodate next falls incoming freshmen in terms of scholarships when the only current players leaving would be those drafted and signed? Best point made in a month of Sundays. You recruit to replace. X-4 so you recruit 4 and then the -4 get a year more and now you are at X+4 and you have to discard. Now, WTF do you do. Sometimes you just have to say that life is not fair, tough luck and move on. |
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