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Post by newduke2 on Mar 12, 2020 20:25:50 GMT -8
I heard some sports pundits discussing the idea that college seniors be granted an extra year of eligibility if they were/are on teams that had their seasons cut short (in any way) by the NCAA shutting down all games. It would be hard to make it fair and equal...unless you grant the extra year to ALL seniors, regardless if their team's regular season and post season ended before the mass cancellation or was still ongoing at the time.
For WBB in particular, I personally like the idea...I bet Kat would return...not sure about the other 3 seniors who probably would just want to get on with their lives. Would Sabrina of the ucks return yet again for "unfinished business" ? Doubt it.
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 12, 2020 20:35:20 GMT -8
I heard some sports pundits discussing the idea that college seniors be granted an extra year of eligibility if they were/are on teams that had their seasons cut short (in any way) by the NCAA shutting down all games. It would be hard to make it fair and equal...unless you grant the extra year to ALL seniors, regardless if their team's regular season and post season ended before the mass cancellation or was still ongoing at the time. For WBB in particular, I personally like the idea...I bet Kat would return...not sure about the other 3 seniors who probably would just want to get on with their lives. Would Sabrina of the ucks return yet again for "unfinished business" ? Doubt it. I don't think MBB and WBB players should qualify. Their "guaranteed" seasons were completed. The postseason is not equally assessed nor guaranteed. The same as the # of games for RS or appeals... a full season was played. Spring sports just got started, league play never began. I could see those players accommodated. But, only Srs? I mean every player lost a season/year...
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Post by newduke2 on Mar 12, 2020 20:37:59 GMT -8
I heard some sports pundits discussing the idea that college seniors be granted an extra year of eligibility if they were/are on teams that had their seasons cut short (in any way) by the NCAA shutting down all games. It would be hard to make it fair and equal...unless you grant the extra year to ALL seniors, regardless if their team's regular season and post season ended before the mass cancellation or was still ongoing at the time. For WBB in particular, I personally like the idea...I bet Kat would return...not sure about the other 3 seniors who probably would just want to get on with their lives. Would Sabrina of the ucks return yet again for "unfinished business" ? Doubt it. I don't think MBB and WBB players should qualify. Their "guaranteed" seasons were completed. The postseason is not equally assessed nor guaranteed. The same as the # of games for RS or appeals... a full season was played. Spring sports just got started, league play never began. I could see those players accommodated. But, only Srs? I mean every player lost a season/year... You make some good points.
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 12, 2020 20:51:29 GMT -8
I don't think MBB and WBB players should qualify. Their "guaranteed" seasons were completed. The postseason is not equally assessed nor guaranteed. The same as the # of games for RS or appeals... a full season was played. Spring sports just got started, league play never began. I could see those players accommodated. But, only Srs? I mean every player lost a season/year... You make some good points. I'm sure others can make more on both sides. But, what ever is decided will be a one time exception so easily justified. It'll make some happy, some not. My guess, the easiest process is for the NCAA to do nothing. This was not in their control, it's a once in a lifetime (hopefully) occurrence... so they could justify that too.
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Post by whocares on Mar 13, 2020 6:16:04 GMT -8
If you grant seniors another year of eligibility, or if you simply write off the season for all spring sports like they never happened, in effect giving every player an extra medical redshirt year, how do you accommodate next falls incoming freshmen in terms of scholarships when the only current players leaving would be those drafted and signed?
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Post by rmancarl on Mar 13, 2020 7:28:54 GMT -8
I'm not totally sure what they are trying to get at here, and I'm not sure they have any idea of a resolution, but I did run across this:
Repost from Marianne Vydra, Deputy Athletic Director/Senior Women’s Administrator: After several conversations with student-athletes yesterday, I believe that those that had their championship seasons canceled should be afforded a place at the table to discuss how they want us to remedy their lost seasons. Let’s assist them in using the governance structure of the NCAA to get the conversations going. We are the NCAA and we make our own rules.
I'm not sure in the end what the NCAA may think they can/should do.
I do know, that when I look at someone like Kat, I feel so sorry for how her junior and senior season came to end. You work hard to get back to the player you once were, and then when you are getting closer, it's gone again.
Although Mik doesn't seem to care much about personal accomplishments, how terrible would it had been if the season was cancelled the game before she reached the Oregon State career rebound record? And what about Portland Pilots WBB? How awful for them to finally make the tourney and not get to play....and Arizona? Not much you can do about those, but it's a shame.
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Post by newduke2 on Mar 13, 2020 7:43:24 GMT -8
If you grant seniors another year of eligibility, or if you simply write off the season for all spring sports like they never happened, in effect giving every player an extra medical redshirt year, how do you accommodate next falls incoming freshmen in terms of scholarships when the only current players leaving would be those drafted and signed? The argument made by some TV pundits was the NCAA could raise the scholarship limitation for one season only to make room for both carryover seniors and incoming freshmen.
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Post by newduke2 on Mar 13, 2020 7:47:25 GMT -8
If you grant seniors another year of eligibility, or if you simply write off the season for all spring sports like they never happened, in effect giving every player an extra medical redshirt year, how do you accommodate next falls incoming freshmen in terms of scholarships when the only current players leaving would be those drafted and signed? The argument made by some TV pundits was the NCAA could raise the scholarship limitation for one season only to make room for both carryover seniors and incoming freshmen.
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Mar 13, 2020 8:05:50 GMT -8
If you grant seniors another year of eligibility, or if you simply write off the season for all spring sports like they never happened, in effect giving every player an extra medical redshirt year, how do you accommodate next falls incoming freshmen in terms of scholarships when the only current players leaving would be those drafted and signed? The argument made by some TV pundits was the NCAA could raise the scholarship limitation for one season only to make room for both carryover seniors and incoming freshmen. Would like to see that option for the seniors. With the global economy in the tank due to the pandemic, the seniors could use some more time to bolster their education and training before trying to find a job. Can you think of a worse time in recent memory for a graduating senior to find a job?
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Post by newduke2 on Mar 13, 2020 8:52:44 GMT -8
I'm not totally sure what they are trying to get at here, and I'm not sure they have any idea of a resolution, but I did run across this: Repost from Marianne Vydra, Deputy Athletic Director/Senior Women’s Administrator: After several conversations with student-athletes yesterday, I believe that those that had their championship seasons canceled should be afforded a place at the table to discuss how they want us to remedy their lost seasons. Let’s assist them in using the governance structure of the NCAA to get the conversations going. We are the NCAA and we make our own rules. I'm not sure in the end what the NCAA may think they can/should do. I do know, that when I look at someone like Kat, I feel so sorry for how her junior and senior season came to end. You work hard to get back to the player you once were, and then when you are getting closer, it's gone again. Although Mik doesn't seem to care much about personal accomplishments, how terrible would it had been if the season was cancelled the game before she reached the Oregon State career rebound record? And what about Portland Pilots WBB? How awful for them to finally make the tourney and not get to play....and Arizona? Not much you can do about those, but it's a shame. Yeah the same argument was put forth for the Rutgers and Penn State men's teams in the Big Ten...both teams were probably going to make the NCAA Tournament for the first time in a long time. Lots of hard work for nothing.
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 13, 2020 10:31:18 GMT -8
I heard some sports pundits discussing the idea that college seniors be granted an extra year of eligibility if they were/are on teams that had their seasons cut short (in any way) by the NCAA shutting down all games. It would be hard to make it fair and equal...unless you grant the extra year to ALL seniors, regardless if their team's regular season and post season ended before the mass cancellation or was still ongoing at the time. For WBB in particular, I personally like the idea...I bet Kat would return...not sure about the other 3 seniors who probably would just want to get on with their lives. Would Sabrina of the ucks return yet again for "unfinished business" ? Doubt it. Im not sure how you could do this and be fair to the underclassmen and incoming freshmen whose playing time would be adversely impacted. Give everyone 6 years to play 4?
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Mar 13, 2020 10:34:41 GMT -8
Bad idea. No way to implement it fairly.
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Mar 13, 2020 10:39:05 GMT -8
We are the NCAA and we make our own rules. Says it all
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Post by beaveragain on Mar 13, 2020 10:47:28 GMT -8
would it be impossible to just delay the seasons a month?
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Mar 13, 2020 10:49:02 GMT -8
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