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Post by lotrader on Jan 6, 2020 6:06:11 GMT -8
I think it will be very much like last year. UO is clear favorite, but I believe whoever wins the PAC-12 is going to have 2 or more losses. With Taya in the line-up this year, I would be far more bold about our ability to take a game from UO this year. Our guard play is as good (or better) than UO, but UO has the advantage with Sabally and Hebard. I don't see any of the PAC-12 teams beating OSU by 20+ this year, as has happened to us in the past 2 seasons. But, every team has an off game, and, it depends how well you are playing defensively as to if you can squeak out a win ugly. Our guard play is not up to theirs.....but keep hoping. And Taya is not the difference in us beating them. We disagree. I take into consideration defense as well as offense when I make my position. Our guard play, 1-5, is as good or better than UO, because OSU guards are better defenders than UO. Having Taya would be a HUGE difference with the the 2 x BIGs we have now, because at 6'3", and her mobility, Taya could check Sabally for a portion of the game. Rueck mixes up his defenders constantly during the course of the game in man defense, and, having Taya would be another defensive look against Sabally. I'm not saying we will win either of the 2 games vs UO, but I don't think we will get blown out.
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Post by oldbeav on Jan 6, 2020 6:56:06 GMT -8
UO has a very good bench with players wanting to show they deserve more minutes. As a result, the gas pedal stays on in garbage time, and makes their scores worse than they would with with most team's garbage time. Against UL, basically 6 players saw the floor, and they managed 62 points. That said, they start 4 players expected to get drafted high, so beating them will take a much better offensive effort than we're generally bringing. I don't know if we get them this year or not, but I expect dogfights once again, simply because of Rueck + Defense. Actually, they can be up 40 points and most, if not all, of the starters are still in. Got to pad the stats for those triple doubles. That’s why their scores are so high. But I agree the bench players are very good.
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Post by qbeaver on Jan 6, 2020 7:42:39 GMT -8
We're going to lose some conference games...guaranteed. This league is tough. Stanford,uo,UCLA,Arizona,ASU,and others are tough. Should prepare us for a long run in the tournament...can't wait.
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Jan 6, 2020 9:25:30 GMT -8
Something has to change. They've mostly been sleepwalking ever since the Miami game. Short stretches of playing really well, but lots of putting it in neutral. They have the pieces to be great. Arizona will be a good test. Agree that OSU has been a bit erratic of late. Goodman needs to get back from her trip wandering in the wilderness and find her shooting touch again. I wouldn't be surprised to see them sweep the AZ schools or drop both. Would taking pressure off Goodman by putting the ball in Slocum's hands almost all the time allow Goodman to focus on her strength, three-point shooting? Teams have scouted Goodman and are giving her zero room at the top of the OSU offense. As a result, there is too much dribbling by OSU and our ball movement is poor.
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Post by shelby on Jan 6, 2020 10:30:39 GMT -8
I guess it depends on the in game dynamics. If you are not getting the three going with our other shooters - would be good to free up Aleah.
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Jan 6, 2020 10:38:14 GMT -8
I guess it depends on the in game dynamics. If you are not getting the three going with our other shooters - would be good to free up Aleah. Goodman remains in a shooting slump, but she is still a 40% three-point shooter. I just see opposing defenses hound Goodman out to the three-point line and force her to drive when she plays the point. Getting Goodman going with corner threes and allowing Slocum to create for others may allow our offense a chance to be better than it has shown of late.
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Post by shelby on Jan 6, 2020 10:39:57 GMT -8
Agreed .. 40% is too good to leave out of your offense !
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Post by markarmour04 on Jan 6, 2020 10:58:04 GMT -8
I believe that Aleah has been playing point guard for two reasons: First, Scott loves Aleah as a floor leader--he praises her constantly as a coach on the floor. But second, I believe he wanted Destiny to have more opportunities to make shots, both from long range and by driving into the lane. Slocum has been a much better player this year for that reason--she is a tremendous offensive player, but it is mainly as a classic 2-guard.
That is the tradeoff on the offensive end, we get more from Destiny and less from Aleah (when they are both on the court).
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Post by ricke71 on Jan 6, 2020 11:17:11 GMT -8
I guess it depends on the in game dynamics. If you are not getting the three going with our other shooters - would be good to free up Aleah. Goodman remains in a shooting slump, but she is still a 40% three-point shooter. I just see opposing defenses hound Goodman out to the three-point line and force her to drive when she plays the point. Getting Goodman going with corner threes and allowing Slocum to create for others may allow our offense a chance to be better than it has shown of late. Unless I'm missing something in comparing last year with this year, Aleah's shooting % are very similar last year vs. this year, both for 2pt and 3 pt shots. She's shooting a bit fewer 3-pointers this year, though, compared to last year (1 attempt every 4.5 mp in 2018/19 vs. 1 attempt every 5.6 mp this season). Perhaps the collective 'vision' of AG, and any supposed difference year to year, is colored by the memory of her 1st career start (last season in Gill vs. Colorado on Feb. 1) when she was 6 for 6 on 3-pointers.
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Post by bennyskid on Jan 6, 2020 11:47:38 GMT -8
It's just been the last couple games where Aleah has been cold. It's just a normal cold streak - statistically inevitable, nothing to be worried about.
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Post by markarmour04 on Jan 6, 2020 12:05:47 GMT -8
In the first 7 games, AG average 12.8 points per game as was 24-for-46 from 3 pt range. Over 50%. She was playing like a star, someone who could deserve an all-conference slot.
In the past 7 games, she is averaging 3.6 points, and is 6-for-27 from 3 pt range. 22%.
Our overall offensive numbers have not shrunk, and she is still playing a lot of minutes. She is shooting a little less, but much worse.
I love her game, and she absolutely deserves to play. But in order to compete with Oregon and Stanford, they really need Aleah. When they beat the Ducks last year, AG was arguably the best player on the floor. When they beat the Ducks in 2018, Tudor was their best player. They probably need 25 points (total) from the two of them.
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Jan 6, 2020 12:10:38 GMT -8
It's just been the last couple games where Aleah has been cold. It's just a normal cold streak - statistically inevitable, nothing to be worried about. I think Goodman's "cold steak" re: shooting and scoring is now up to six games or so. She started the season on fire from threes in the Preseason WNIT and was not taking many twos at all through the first eight games or so. Great shooters have to shoot. We need open looks for Goodman. Her shot will fall again. The biggest challenge that I see now is that the ball movement on offense remains difficult without Slocum at the point. We simply eat up too much of the shot clock with dribbling and without what appears to be not enough cutting or passing. Then, we end up having to shoot hurriedly at the end of the short clock. I think that Goodman's ankle injury bothered her yesterday. She will attempt to play through pain to help her team. Her ankle issue makes it even more difficult for her to beat quick guards and initiate the offense. Slocum can create for herself as well as her teammates. That is why I think that the key to getting Goodman going again is giving the keys to the point to Slocum until further notice.
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Post by shelby on Jan 6, 2020 12:26:10 GMT -8
Louisville did it already - I think our girls are pretty laser focused on giving it their ALL every game. Personally, will be fun to watch Rueck game plan and work his rotation ( Maddie is great this year ). The freshmen haven’t flinched this year. The game in spewgene will also have to be against the officials ( unfortunately ), but I think we split again this year . Can’t wait to see Jones on Ruth and Any height on sabally. Also, Mikayla playing out on flopper.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Jan 6, 2020 12:40:54 GMT -8
UO has a very good bench with players wanting to show they deserve more minutes. As a result, the gas pedal stays on in garbage time, and makes their scores worse than they would with with most team's garbage time. Against UL, basically 6 players saw the floor, and they managed 62 points. That said, they start 4 players expected to get drafted high, so beating them will take a much better offensive effort than we're generally bringing. I don't know if we get them this year or not, but I expect dogfights once again, simply because of Rueck + Defense. Actually, they can be up 40 points and most, if not all, of the starters are still in. Got to pad the stats for those triple doubles. That’s why their scores are so high. But I agree the bench players are very good. This sounds like UConn fans whining about Ionescu's stats. She's averaging 31.4 mpg, nothing egregious about that. Hebard at 26.4 and Sabally at 25. Pivec is averaging 32.4, Slocum 28.9 and Goodman 29.3. There is some kind of large misconception out there that Oregon starters play almost the whole game. Stats say otherwise rather emphatically. (FTR UConn has 3 starters averaging over 36 mpg so their fans are the last people in the world that should be talking about how many minutes other teams' starters play)
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Post by nwhoopfan on Jan 6, 2020 12:44:21 GMT -8
In the first 7 games, AG average 12.8 points per game as was 24-for-46 from 3 pt range. Over 50%. She was playing like a star, someone who could deserve an all-conference slot. In the past 7 games, she is averaging 3.6 points, and is 6-for-27 from 3 pt range. 22%. Exactly. It's not a few games, it's 50% of the season so far. 3.6 ppg over that stretch for a starter is rather paltry production.
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