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Post by orange123 on Jan 5, 2020 14:18:42 GMT -8
Arizona will run us off the court Friday night. Something has to change. They've mostly been sleepwalking ever since the Miami game. Short stretches of playing really well, but lots of putting it in neutral. They have the pieces to be great. They miss T.C! |
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Post by qbeaver on Jan 5, 2020 14:21:01 GMT -8
Something has to change. They've mostly been sleepwalking ever since the Miami game. Short stretches of playing really well, but lots of putting it in neutral. They have the pieces to be great. They miss T.C! Aren't we 14-0,and still winning? Has Arizona looked like the showtime Lakers in every game? Let's just play the games and see what happens. If we lose on the road to them,it's not the end of the world. Enjoy the ride... |
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Jan 5, 2020 14:32:24 GMT -8
Just back from the game.....
- When the Beavers intro video started playing, the Colorado coach took her team off the court and into the hallway (or further?). They didn't come back until *after* Beaver player intros, the lights came back up, and the refs/Beavers were getting to center court. Interesting and disrespectful, if you ask me......
- Colorado was high hedging the guards at the arc, and we weren't splitting well, passing over the top well, or going to the hoop well.
- Lots of bad passes, perhaps tipped, but low passes to bigs, too-high passes to bigs
- Colorado played physical, refs were hit and miss in terms of consistent calls, and we were out of sorts
- Usually reliable 3 point shooters haven't been of late, FT shooters also - I would not like to get into a game right now where the outcome hinged on who "fouled for profit" better......
- Thankfully, our FT shooting was lights out compared to Colorado.
- A number of our players seem to be playing tentative, need to get the swagger back
- We have to remember 2 of our starters are freshmen, surprised we haven't had more ups and downs.
- Final Four team was 14-0 also, not bad company to be in also had a 14 game winning streak, a good sign......
- I would continue to start Kennedy Brown over Maddie, because I think the upside of KB fully developing her game will pay more dividends - better to use Maddie as a stabilizing force.
- Seems like SR is starting to pull whichever starter gets that first foul, even if just for a short sit. Seems also to be working
- Can't play like this and come back from AZ unscathed, but perhaps a good wake up call.
Go Beavers!
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Jan 5, 2020 14:43:40 GMT -8
Final four team 14-0 to start?
Try 8-0
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Jan 5, 2020 14:48:07 GMT -8
Final four team 14-0 to start? Try 8-0 I stand corrected - the Final Four team (and the 82-83 team) had 14 game winning streaks (page 82 of the Media Guide, but maybe not a 14-0 start). Thanks for pointing out the misstatement on my part! Go Beavers! |
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Post by zeroposter on Jan 5, 2020 14:49:55 GMT -8
Just back from the game..... - When the Beavers intro video started playing, the Colorado coach took her team off the court and into the hallway (or further?). They didn't come back until *after* Beaver player intros, the lights came back up, and the refs/Beavers were getting to center court. Interesting and disrespectful, if you ask me...... - Colorado was high hedging the guards at the arc, and we weren't splitting well, passing over the top well, or going to the hoop well. - Lots of bad passes, perhaps tipped, but low passes to bigs, too-high passes to bigs - Colorado played physical, refs were hit and miss in terms of consistent calls, and we were out of sorts - Usually reliable 3 point shooters haven't been of late, FT shooters also - I would not like to get into a game right now where the outcome hinged on who "fouled for profit" better...... - Thankfully, our FT shooting was lights out compared to Colorado. - A number of our players seem to be playing tentative, need to get the swagger back - We have to remember 2 of our starters are freshmen, surprised we haven't had more ups and downs. - Final Four team was 14-0 also, not bad company to be in - I would continue to start Kennedy Brown over Maddie, because I think the upside of KB fully developing her game will pay more dividends - better to use Maddie as a stabilizing force. - Seems like SR is starting to pull whichever starter gets that first foul, even if just for a short sit. Seems also to be working - Can't play like this and come back from AZ unscathed, but perhaps a good wake up call. Go Beavers! Great analysis, but it was probably a good move by Colorado on the intro aspect. They have a young team that was probably totally intimidated at Oregon with the big crowd and intro. Terrible start against the ducks. Colorado played well early today which they didn't do against the duckers. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 5, 2020 14:53:08 GMT -8
Just back from the game..... - When the Beavers intro video started playing, the Colorado coach took her team off the court and into the hallway (or further?). They didn't come back until *after* Beaver player intros, the lights came back up, and the refs/Beavers were getting to center court. Interesting and disrespectful, if you ask me...... - Colorado was high hedging the guards at the arc, and we weren't splitting well, passing over the top well, or going to the hoop well. - Lots of bad passes, perhaps tipped, but low passes to bigs, too-high passes to bigs - Colorado played physical, refs were hit and miss in terms of consistent calls, and we were out of sorts - Usually reliable 3 point shooters haven't been of late, FT shooters also - I would not like to get into a game right now where the outcome hinged on who "fouled for profit" better...... - Thankfully, our FT shooting was lights out compared to Colorado. - A number of our players seem to be playing tentative, need to get the swagger back - We have to remember 2 of our starters are freshmen, surprised we haven't had more ups and downs. - Final Four team was 14-0 also, not bad company to be in also had a 14 game winning streak, a good sign...... - I would continue to start Kennedy Brown over Maddie, because I think the upside of KB fully developing her game will pay more dividends - better to use Maddie as a stabilizing force. - Seems like SR is starting to pull whichever starter gets that first foul, even if just for a short sit. Seems also to be working - Can't play like this and come back from AZ unscathed, but perhaps a good wake up call. Go Beavers! If it would be disrespectful for the home team to leave the bench during the visitors introductions (it would be) then it is the same for the visitors. Should be a T on the bench and the game should start with 2 free throws + possession to the home team. Sounds like some stunt the *ucks would pull. |
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Post by 411500 on Jan 5, 2020 14:58:51 GMT -8
qbeaver - if winning (or losing) is the only way by which you assess a game, or a team, your powers of basketball assessment are pretty meagre...
The issue being raised by several here on the board is not whether we won the game, but whether the team played like an excellent team, like a team that might win the Pac, a team that might make the Elite Eight or even the Final Four.
That's the plan.The plan is to play excellent, technically sound basketball. The plan is not merely to get a W against one of the weaker teams in the conference - at home.
The win today is great - downright essential....But I'm sure Coach believes his team did not look excellent in any phase of the game today..Basically, a performance of today's calibre rings up a loss against Arizona, UCLA, Stanford, and Oregon.
That's NOT part of the plan. The plan is to play like a winner.
The 1st quarter today was atrocious and this makes 3 of 14 games (Liberty, BYU, Colorado) where the Beavs started with a thud. A big thud.
Not a good sign. Not the end of the world. But not a good sign. Not when you have standards of performance beyond W and L.
At any rate, the Beavs gritted out a tough win today and that's a plus....but I'm concerned how they won it, especially since the victory came against one of the weaker teams in the conference........
GO BEAVS !!
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 5, 2020 14:59:42 GMT -8
Just back from the game..... - When the Beavers intro video started playing, the Colorado coach took her team off the court and into the hallway (or further?). They didn't come back until *after* Beaver player intros, the lights came back up, and the refs/Beavers were getting to center court. Interesting and disrespectful, if you ask me...... - Colorado was high hedging the guards at the arc, and we weren't splitting well, passing over the top well, or going to the hoop well. - Lots of bad passes, perhaps tipped, but low passes to bigs, too-high passes to bigs - Colorado played physical, refs were hit and miss in terms of consistent calls, and we were out of sorts - Usually reliable 3 point shooters haven't been of late, FT shooters also - I would not like to get into a game right now where the outcome hinged on who "fouled for profit" better...... - Thankfully, our FT shooting was lights out compared to Colorado. - A number of our players seem to be playing tentative, need to get the swagger back - We have to remember 2 of our starters are freshmen, surprised we haven't had more ups and downs. - Final Four team was 14-0 also, not bad company to be in also had a 14 game winning streak, a good sign...... - I would continue to start Kennedy Brown over Maddie, because I think the upside of KB fully developing her game will pay more dividends - better to use Maddie as a stabilizing force. - Seems like SR is starting to pull whichever starter gets that first foul, even if just for a short sit. Seems also to be working - Can't play like this and come back from AZ unscathed, but perhaps a good wake up call. Go Beavers! If it would be disrespectful for the home team to leave the court during the visitors introductions (it would be) then it is the same for the visitors. Should be a T on the bench and the game should start with 2 free throws + possession to the home team. Sounds like some stunt the *ucks would pull. It doesn’t matter as long as you have your players are on the court at the tip. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 5, 2020 15:11:59 GMT -8
If it would be disrespectful for the home team to leave the court during the visitors introductions (it would be) then it is the same for the visitors. Should be a T on the bench and the game should start with 2 free throws + possession to the home team. Sounds like some stunt the *ucks would pull. It doesn’t matter as long as you have your players are on the court at the tip. Didnt mean to state that it is against the rules but it is unsportsmanlike and maybe the rules should be changed so that it is a T. |
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Post by osu82 on Jan 5, 2020 15:12:32 GMT -8
Arizona will run us off the court Friday night. Something has to change. They've mostly been sleepwalking ever since the Miami game. Short stretches of playing really well, but lots of putting it in neutral. They have the pieces to be great. Arizona will be a good test. Agree that OSU has been a bit erratic of late. Goodman needs to get back from her trip wandering in the wilderness and find her shooting touch again. I wouldn't be surprised to see them sweep the AZ schools or drop both. |
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Post by ricke71 on Jan 5, 2020 15:40:00 GMT -8
Something has to change. They've mostly been sleepwalking ever since the Miami game. Short stretches of playing really well, but lots of putting it in neutral. They have the pieces to be great. They miss T.C! An aspect of TC's game that would fit in so nicely with Taylor Jones is Taya's skill at inside passes. TJ uncharacteristically had the 'yips' on some 2 ft shots today...but when she's 'normal' those passes from TC would look might sweet. Haven't seen that same proficiency with the inside pass yet from the wing, or high post, from Kennedy Brown. Still there's lotsa reason to believe that KB will be better by post-season. |
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Post by nwhoopfan on Jan 5, 2020 15:55:33 GMT -8
Something has to change. They've mostly been sleepwalking ever since the Miami game. Short stretches of playing really well, but lots of putting it in neutral. They have the pieces to be great. Arizona will be a good test. Agree that OSU has been a bit erratic of late. Goodman needs to get back from her trip wandering in the wilderness and find her shooting touch again. I wouldn't be surprised to see them sweep the AZ schools or drop both. So hard to predict. Arizona is a good, not great team. They are very dependent on McDonald and Reese. ASU played better in LA this weekend than UA did, I never look forward to the trip to Tempe. |
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Post by nwhoopfan on Jan 5, 2020 15:56:30 GMT -8
Oregon beat Utah by only slightly more than OSU did. The respective games against Colorado sure were different though. Darn transitive properties.
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Post by ricke71 on Jan 5, 2020 16:24:44 GMT -8
Tough win today v. Colorado. A real victory in the 'how to win when things aren't working fully' department.
When the Beavs longer outside game (3-pointers) and close inside game (usually to Taylor) are BOTH working, they are playing at an elite level. When one (or both) of those aspects are having a rough night, wins are going to be tough.
It's been a rare game when two (or more) of the four veteran 3-point shooters have 'felt it' at the same time.
A look at the last 3 games: If you subtract out whichever one of the 4 veteran outside shooters had a decent 3 pt shooting game (and it's varied from game to game to game), here's what you're left with from other the 3 veteran shooters: 6 for 32 shooting from 3 (19%).
This doesn't include Kennedy Brown, which is a whole other story.
So, unless at least two of the following (or hopefully more) are 'feeling it' from 3, that aspect of the overall offense has worked against the Beavs - Of course I'm speaking of: Mikala Pivec, Destiny Slocum, Kat Tudor & Aleah Goodman.
That's not to say that other contributions from these player(s) when they're struggling from "3" aren't superior - in fact all four players provide so very much to the teams winning record, other than long-range shooting. They are all players who give 100% each time they're on the floor. Rather, it's to point out that unless 2 or more of those 4 can get it going from long distance in a given game, another pathway must be found to win. And that surely has occurred, as 14-0 is not arguable.
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