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Post by justdamwin on Jan 4, 2020 17:53:21 GMT -8
Baseba1111 dig your insight, passion and all things BEAVS. But yes a cat that wins 31% of his games in year 4 was mentioned up there ☝️. Liked him in rip city playing....but his college record is icky. Then drunkinstupid says grass ain't always green. Thats it Man I hope Tinks can catch fire 🔥 and get the club turning around 2 an NCAA tourney. I know you, and all the posters want that as well. I also know that this is D1 & Pac 12 hoops. Results & the expectations are high everywhere. Comes with the gig. So when peeps say "hey that other yard over there (possible new coach) is sexy... I get that point but who really knows? There are no guarantees someone else is better or worse. Beauty in sports with that. But all this discussion is FAIR in a win-loss business No... he stated fans said "ANY" coach would be ok. Using the qualifier “seemingly” does quantity the statement to where it does not necessitate your vehement reaction. It says”searingly ANY” not a definitive ANY. Relax you are better than this.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 4, 2020 18:08:02 GMT -8
18 of those 21 was due to 1 season. You and I have argued back and forth on how badly Robinson had left the next coach, and I've showed you facts, like Tinkle inherited 0 regular starters, the top scorer Tinkle inherited averaged 4 points a game (none of the others averaged 3), and none of the inherited players had 3 years of eligibility left. That said, I expect the Beavs to be competing for a post season berth this year and if they don't get one Tinkle should have a hot seat. However, we should take a thoughtful look at why this program is in the shape it's in. We had a popular President's brother as head coach and despite the publicity it got the program his last 2 classes were pretty much complete misses. It may be more than who's the coach. There are coach's names being thrown around in this thread that haven't had the success at the same level as Tinkle had. My thinking is, the season is young, it needs to play through the first half of league play before freaking out. We've got recruiting going on and loud negative presences on social media don't necessarily help. My thinking is IF Tinkle is replaced AFTER the season has played out, I'd think it would be wise to invest in the program and bring a truly successful power 5 coach in -like OSU did when they brought in Miller. These days I can't think of any that would actually come here off the top of my head. Tinkle is the best we've had going the othr route. OSU is not in the position that they were in when Ralph was brought in. There is no way in hell we are going to attract a successful Power 5 coach. We are looking at a non power 5 coach at best. Big Sky, Mountain West, WCC, etc
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 4, 2020 18:11:52 GMT -8
No... he stated fans said "ANY" coach would be ok. Using the qualifier “seemingly” does quantity the statement to where it does not necessitate your vehement reaction. It says”searingly ANY” not a definitive ANY. Relax you are better than this. There is no vehement to it. "Seemingly any" is/was a BS statement. Seemingly means "it is the case" that fans would take ANY coach, which again has NEVER been the case. I do not even remember a fan out of frustration state "I'd take any one over WT"... let alone literally mean it! One poster brought up one coach with a 31% WP... that's not the "fans", in general, or on this site. It was a seemingly ignorant post that incorrectly generalized multitudes of posts concerning OSU's basketball coach and what some fans seemingly expect from the program. 🍻
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Post by beaverinohio on Jan 4, 2020 18:33:03 GMT -8
Hyperbole
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Post by beaversrock on Jan 4, 2020 18:44:29 GMT -8
Its all just talk. We can go 2 and 16 in league and WT is not getting fired. Barnes pulled a Booby D and gave him a 2.1 million one year extension. Barnes really screwed up. Why would anyone give an unsuccessful, poor recruiter that to my knowledge no other program in America is interested in stealing him from us an extension? We are stuck with a mediocre at best season this year and a terrible season next year. And then there still is no promise Barnes will be able to buy him out
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Post by spudbeaver on Jan 4, 2020 18:45:25 GMT -8
Who’s playing in that one? Need to move to the football board...
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Post by justdamwin on Jan 4, 2020 18:50:04 GMT -8
Using the qualifier “seemingly” does quantity the statement to where it does not necessitate your vehement reaction. It says”searingly ANY” not a definitive ANY. Relax you are better than this. There is no vehement to it. "Seemingly any" is/was a BS statement. Seemingly means "it is the case" that fans would take ANY coach, which again has NEVER been the case. I do not even remember a fan out of frustration state "I'd take any one over WT"... let alone literally mean it! One poster brought up one coach with a 31% WP... that's not the "fans", in general, or on this site. It was a seemingly ignorant post that incorrectly generalized multitudes of posts concerning OSU's basketball coach and what some fans seemingly expect from the program. 🍻 [ Cool, I am now convinced you are right. Very impressive your perfection of communication
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Jan 4, 2020 19:56:19 GMT -8
Its all just talk. We can go 2 and 16 in league and WT is not getting fired. Barnes pulled a Booby D and gave him a 2.1 million one year extension. Barnes really screwed up. Why would anyone give an unsuccessful, poor recruiter that to my knowledge no other program in America is interested in stealing him from us an extension? We are stuck with a mediocre at best season this year and a terrible season next year. And then there still is no promise Barnes will be able to buy him out Let's just hope Scott Barnes sees something that many (some?) of the posters here (at the very least) don't...... Given that his son, Isaac Barnes, is on the team, I guess he has a source for additional information that we don't. Or perhaps he should have claimed a conflict of interest and recused himself from contract extension talks :-). Edit - reading Isaac's bio, I learned the AD should know more about basketball than many ADs: "Son of Scott and Jody Barnes … Father is the Vice President and Director of Intercollegiate Athletics at Oregon State … Father played basketball at Fresno State and competed in two NCAA Tournaments and two NITs … " I agree with your post however - the Athletic Department seems to like to wedge itself into "losing" contracts. For all the negativity about GAG (well deserved, in my opinion), had he not pulled the business-wise insane "walk away from it all" move, we would have been chaffing under a buyout there as well..... Go Beavers!
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 4, 2020 21:07:55 GMT -8
There is no vehement to it. "Seemingly any" is/was a BS statement. Seemingly means "it is the case" that fans would take ANY coach, which again has NEVER been the case. I do not even remember a fan out of frustration state "I'd take any one over WT"... let alone literally mean it! One poster brought up one coach with a 31% WP... that's not the "fans", in general, or on this site. It was a seemingly ignorant post that incorrectly generalized multitudes of posts concerning OSU's basketball coach and what some fans seemingly expect from the program. 🍻 [ Cool, I am now convinced you are right. Very impressive your perfection of communication Ha... hmmmm... but, good sarcasm is fun!
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Post by spudbeaver on Jan 4, 2020 21:08:40 GMT -8
Its all just talk. We can go 2 and 16 in league and WT is not getting fired. Barnes pulled a Booby D and gave him a 2.1 million one year extension. Barnes really screwed up. Why would anyone give an unsuccessful, poor recruiter that to my knowledge no other program in America is interested in stealing him from us an extension? We are stuck with a mediocre at best season this year and a terrible season next year. And then there still is no promise Barnes will be able to buy him out Let's just hope Scott Barnes sees something that many (some?) of the posters here (at the very least) don't...... Given that his son, Isaac Barnes, is on the team, I guess he has a source for additional information that we don't. Or perhaps he should have claimed a conflict of interest and recused himself from contract extension talks :-). Edit - reading Isaac's bio, I learned the AD should know more about basketball than many ADs: "Son of Scott and Jody Barnes … Father is the Vice President and Director of Intercollegiate Athletics at Oregon State … Father played basketball at Fresno State and competed in two NCAA Tournaments and two NITs … " I agree with your post however - the Athletic Department seems to like to wedge itself into "losing" contracts. For all the negativity about GAG (well deserved, in my opinion), had he not pulled the business-wise insane "walk away from it all" move, we would have been chaffing under a buyout there as well..... Go Beavers! There's only one answer. Gaslight WT with a pic with hookers and blow! He’ll have to walk away too! The new Oregon State blueprint.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 4, 2020 21:10:32 GMT -8
Let's just hope Scott Barnes sees something that many (some?) of the posters here (at the very least) don't...... Given that his son, Isaac Barnes, is on the team, I guess he has a source for additional information that we don't. Or perhaps he should have claimed a conflict of interest and recused himself from contract extension talks :-). Edit - reading Isaac's bio, I learned the AD should know more about basketball than many ADs: "Son of Scott and Jody Barnes … Father is the Vice President and Director of Intercollegiate Athletics at Oregon State … Father played basketball at Fresno State and competed in two NCAA Tournaments and two NITs … " I agree with your post however - the Athletic Department seems to like to wedge itself into "losing" contracts. For all the negativity about GAG (well deserved, in my opinion), had he not pulled the business-wise insane "walk away from it all" move, we would have been chaffing under a buyout there as well..... Go Beavers! There's only one answer. Gaslight WT with a pic with hookers and blow! He’ll have to walk away too! The new Oregon State blueprint. Cheerleader and booze is cheaper 🙄
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 5, 2020 1:10:32 GMT -8
Using the qualifier “seemingly” does quantity the statement to where it does not necessitate your vehement reaction. It says”searingly ANY” not a definitive ANY. Relax you are better than this. There is no vehement to it. "Seemingly any" is/was a BS statement. Seemingly means "it is the case" that fans would take ANY coach, which again has NEVER been the case. I do not even remember a fan out of frustration state "I'd take any one over WT"... let alone literally mean it! One poster brought up one coach with a 31% WP... that's not the "fans", in general, or on this site. It was a seemingly ignorant post that incorrectly generalized multitudes of posts concerning OSU's basketball coach and what some fans seemingly expect from the program. 🍻 You have a completely different definition of "seemingly" than I intended.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 5, 2020 1:17:01 GMT -8
Its all just talk. We can go 2 and 16 in league and WT is not getting fired. Barnes pulled a Booby D and gave him a 2.1 million one year extension. Barnes really screwed up. Why would anyone give an unsuccessful, poor recruiter that to my knowledge no other program in America is interested in stealing him from us an extension? We are stuck with a mediocre at best season this year and a terrible season next year. And then there still is no promise Barnes will be able to buy him out Let's just hope Scott Barnes sees something that many (some?) of the posters here (at the very least) don't...... Given that his son, Isaac Barnes, is on the team, I guess he has a source for additional information that we don't. Or perhaps he should have claimed a conflict of interest and recused himself from contract extension talks :-). Edit - reading Isaac's bio, I learned the AD should know more about basketball than many ADs: "Son of Scott and Jody Barnes … Father is the Vice President and Director of Intercollegiate Athletics at Oregon State … Father played basketball at Fresno State and competed in two NCAA Tournaments and two NITs … " I agree with your post however - the Athletic Department seems to like to wedge itself into "losing" contracts. For all the negativity about GAG (well deserved, in my opinion), had he not pulled the business-wise insane "walk away from it all" move, we would have been chaffing under a buyout there as well..... Go Beavers! Seeing that Barnes is the AD and deals directly with the coaches and staff and players (or their support staff) on a frequent basis I'd suspect he already has a lot of extra information that we don't even without having his kid on the staff.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 5, 2020 11:31:23 GMT -8
Let's just hope Scott Barnes sees something that many (some?) of the posters here (at the very least) don't...... Given that his son, Isaac Barnes, is on the team, I guess he has a source for additional information that we don't. Or perhaps he should have claimed a conflict of interest and recused himself from contract extension talks :-). Edit - reading Isaac's bio, I learned the AD should know more about basketball than many ADs: "Son of Scott and Jody Barnes … Father is the Vice President and Director of Intercollegiate Athletics at Oregon State … Father played basketball at Fresno State and competed in two NCAA Tournaments and two NITs … " I agree with your post however - the Athletic Department seems to like to wedge itself into "losing" contracts. For all the negativity about GAG (well deserved, in my opinion), had he not pulled the business-wise insane "walk away from it all" move, we would have been chaffing under a buyout there as well..... Go Beavers! Seeing that Barnes is the AD and deals directly with the coaches and staff and players (or their support staff) on a frequent basis I'd suspect he already has a lot of extra information that we don't even without having his kid on the staff. My guess... in a very elementary fashion: Get football in order and rolling toward year 3 ... contracts of key asst being the priority!. While integrating/updating with new Prez. Then deal with MBB (and wrestling) if there is an issue/need. I think WT clearly gives Barnes no issues on the academic and personal fronts. It'll come down to Ws and how the future under his tenure projects. As the year moves on, hope that baseball transition in year one goes smoothly.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 5, 2020 18:40:12 GMT -8
Tonight's game is a reminder that talk about new coaches is kinda crazy talk, for now. The Beavers went into the weekend as underdogs in both games and has a decent victory in one of them. 11 and 3, let the season play out for a while before freaking out over each loss.
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