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Post by ochobeavo on Nov 20, 2017 14:04:47 GMT -8
- I know it's early, but I thought I'd see more of Berger by now. Of course in the whistle-fest first game, he picked up 5 fouls in about 5 minutes... I think he and Hollins will grow into more PT as the season progresses.
- Our perimeter kids have the "I'll let you blow by me, won't move my feet, but I'll make a half-hearted reach-in attempt" move down pat. I used to own that move. It's in the Corvallis Parks & Rec Hall of Fame. They shouldn't use my move at this level though. Should I say something?
- Honestly, I really don't know what to make of Jaquori at this point.
- Drew's free throw shooting. Wow. Very impressed!
- From a chemistry standpoint, no, obviously the shots aren't falling, but I've seen plenty of times where we make the extra pass or even become a little too unselfish on a few possessions. Pretty good sign IMO... Now let's knock some shots down.
- Anyone have a Kone update?
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Post by beaverinohio on Nov 20, 2017 14:12:23 GMT -8
I understand, and agree to a point. But sometimes you have to win the game. And we have almost a week before our next game. SR did the same thing yesterday; Goodman didn't play, Carosdale and Thropay saw minimal time (I liked what Thropay did). The previous game, a blowout against an overmatched team, they got big minutes. That's why I don't get too bent out of shape about an easy OOC schedule. You have to have opportunities to develop your bench players. Unfortunately these last two, and next three, games don't give us much of an opportunity to do that. I think that is exactly what it was. After last season and the lost to Wyoming, WT did not want to be 1-2. And I agree. I think that would have had a much greater impact on the team and season than Hollins and others not getting minutes in one game. I think we'll likely see a shortened rotation again against St. John's and then things will get back to normal. WT understands he needs to develop his depth, but he also needs to reestablish a culture of winning after last season.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Nov 20, 2017 15:52:55 GMT -8
32-5, back to back to back Pac12 titles, playing top 5 ND... vs 5-27, with 1 Pac12 win, playing unranked rebuilding LBSt.
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You coach against the team you're playing that day. What happened last week or last year doesn't matter. For Tinkle, winning on Saturday was more important than getting minutes for freshmen who will have ample opportunities down the road, just as it was for Rueck on Sunday.
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 20, 2017 16:30:40 GMT -8
32-5, back to back to back Pac12 titles, playing top 5 ND... vs 5-27, with 1 Pac12 win, playing unranked rebuilding LBSt. ================== You coach against the team you're playing that day. What happened last week or last year doesn't matter. For Tinkle, winning on Saturday was more important than getting minutes for freshmen who will have ample opportunities down the road, just as it was for Rueck on Sunday. Comparing the two coaches, programs, and their "supposed" thought processes aren't even in the same realm of intelligent discussion. WT's program is hanging by a "cord". Next year's class being signed is huge for him. But, as posted by another this year's squad (will make 2+ seasons now) is growing tired of the son's being hands off to "coaching" that is deemed appropriate for others. WT not only needs Ws, he needs to develop some team trust in him and ST Sr. to hold everyone to the same standards. Opinions are what fan boards are for. But, this program is in big trouble if a random W over LBSt in game 3 is so important you have to shorten a rotation not even built.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Nov 20, 2017 16:42:35 GMT -8
No one is comparing the programs (even though you should look up SR's record in Year 3. Not much better than Wayne's was, without the injuries).
But the approach to game coaching isn't any different. You do what you have to do to win the game you're playing. Why didn't Goodman play at all on Sunday after playing 20 minutes the game before? Why did Corosdale play 11 minutes, after playing 19 the game before? Why did Thropay play only 9 after playing 13 the game before?
For the same reason Hollins and Reichle didn't play Saturday. The head coach wanted to win the game, so he shortened his rotation and kept his less-experienced players on the bench as a result.
Tres is one of the most coachable kids on the team. To suggest otherwise is foolish. No one plays harder.
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Post by bill82 on Nov 20, 2017 17:16:01 GMT -8
Tres is one of the most coachable kids on the team. To suggest otherwise is foolish. No one plays harder. On a team of uncoachable players that is not much of a statement. Watch Tres' comments after the Wyoming game and I think you will have a different opinion of his coachability. He admits not to playing defense or guarding the players his coach wanted him to mark.
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Post by bennyskid on Nov 20, 2017 18:06:33 GMT -8
If you want to talk about Tres Tinkle's personality, do it in a thread with Tres Tinkle's name in it. Quit hijacking every thread into another round of boring attacks on the players and coaches. And please give your thread a descriptive name, like "Tres Tinkle, Uncoachable or Just Crappy?" so that the rest of us can avoid clicking on it. (The same applies to Stevie, Ethan, Wayne, or whoever else you have an inexplicable animosity towards.)
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Nov 20, 2017 18:17:18 GMT -8
Wyoming defeated South Dakota State today by 12, and is now 3-0. Granted, SDSU is not Duke, but it is a solid program, with three NCAA appearances in the last six years. LBSU plays at West Virginia on Tuesday. Let's see how it does.
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 20, 2017 21:04:08 GMT -8
If you want to talk about Tres Tinkle's personality, do it in a thread with Tres Tinkle's name in it. Quit hijacking every thread into another round of boring attacks on the players and coaches. And please give your thread a descriptive name, like "Tres Tinkle, Uncoachable or Just Crappy?" so that the rest of us can avoid clicking on it. (The same applies to Stevie, Ethan, Wayne, or whoever else you have an inexplicable animosity towards.) Start your own board...
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Post by blackbug on Nov 20, 2017 21:27:06 GMT -8
I understand, and agree to a point. But sometimes you have to win the game. And we have almost a week before our next game. SR did the same thing yesterday; Goodman didn't play, Carosdale and Thropay saw minimal time (I liked what Thropay did). The previous game, a blowout against an overmatched team, they got big minutes. That's why I don't get too bent out of shape about an easy OOC schedule. You have to have opportunities to develop your bench players. Unfortunately these last two, and next three, games don't give us much of an opportunity to do that. 32-5, back to back to back Pac12 titles, playing top 5 ND... vs 5-27, with 1 Pac12 win, playing unranked rebuilding LBSt. So your saying the 5-27 coach should not try to emulate the 32-5 coach and shorten the rotation for important and/or close games. The only other conclusion is the 5-27 coach can never make the right choice because of the record. This logic is flawed because any complaint of a coach has to be right based solely on the record.
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 20, 2017 21:29:11 GMT -8
32-5, back to back to back Pac12 titles, playing top 5 ND... vs 5-27, with 1 Pac12 win, playing unranked rebuilding LBSt. So your saying the 5-27 coach should not try to emulate the 32-5 coach and shorten the rotation for important and/or close games. Actually I do... to develop talent so you actually can have a decent rotation to shorten.
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Post by bennyskid on Nov 20, 2017 21:30:40 GMT -8
If you want to talk about Tres Tinkle's personality, do it in a thread with Tres Tinkle's name in it. Quit hijacking every thread into another round of boring attacks on the players and coaches. And please give your thread a descriptive name, like "Tres Tinkle, Uncoachable or Just Crappy?" so that the rest of us can avoid clicking on it. (The same applies to Stevie, Ethan, Wayne, or whoever else you have an inexplicable animosity towards.) Start your own board... I'd rather that the people on this board simply learn to press "Create Thread" when they want to vent on a topic unrelated to the original post. It seems more economical.
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 20, 2017 21:53:08 GMT -8
I'd rather that the people on this board simply learn to press "Create Thread" when they want to vent on a topic unrelated to the original post. It seems more economical. Jeez... I hate reading thru a thread and just a random bitch about what posters schools do pops up. LMAO Like ANY thread... almost zero... ever stay on topic of the thread title. And... really? Hollins is men's hoops... whatever the eff you're whining about is also men's hoops and a direct off shoot of talking about Hollins and a lack of PT. Much more related than many many threads on here. You must be disappointed a lot. Again create your own "rules" on your own board. Otherwise, your bitch is the post that doesn't fit.
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Post by ag87 on Nov 21, 2017 0:01:09 GMT -8
Speaking of E Thompson and Hollins, I think they may be very good at the top of a 1-3-1. I wonder if we will see more of that this year.
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Post by bill82 on Nov 21, 2017 2:48:03 GMT -8
Wyoming defeated South Dakota State today by 12, and is now 3-0. Granted, SDSU is not Duke, but it is a solid program, with three NCAA appearances in the last six years. LBSU plays at West Virginia on Tuesday. Let's see how it does. MORGANTOWN, W.Va. — Lamont West was a point shy of a career high with 22 and No. 23 West Virginia overcame a slow start to crush Long Beach State 91-62 on Monday night.
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