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Post by boydo on Sept 2, 2017 21:39:39 GMT -8
Quarterback is not the problem. The line of scrimmage is a mess. The d line is one of the worst in football. If McMarion had been QB today we would have lost.
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Post by spudbeaver on Sept 2, 2017 21:41:58 GMT -8
The last two touchdowns, after coming in with Fresno leading 52-0 against something called Incarnate Word. I wonder how DG would fare vs Incarnate Word? I'd bet the under on 100 yards and 2TDs (passing). SaveSaveAnd 3M had every chance to be in DG's role right now. I think now is a good time to say that there is no way 3M is as good or fast a runner as DG. 3M is a much better qb, but a lot of posts today have stayed 3M is a better runner than DG. No chance.
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Post by baseba1111 on Sept 2, 2017 21:42:50 GMT -8
Quarterback is not the problem. The line of scrimmage is a mess. The d line is one of the worst in football. If McMarion had been QB today we would have lost. Wow... 3M was 6-7 today... you're 0-1 on posting about football. *you're other 2 posts are about TV
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Post by nabeav on Sept 2, 2017 21:45:08 GMT -8
Oh BTW McMaryion went 6-7 for 100+ yards and 2 TDs today. Word. Incarnate Word whatever that is. That's who they played. Again, our problem isn't on offense. No, but at least offensively I feel I can offer competent suggestions to improve the situation. On D, I don't even know where to begin. Maybe finding a year or two of eligibility for Von Miller? Getting Dee Andros to soak down the field before we play?
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Post by baseba1111 on Sept 2, 2017 21:46:58 GMT -8
Funny thought... 3M transfers to a school that was 1-11 last year, new coach, 40+ new players to the program, new schemes to learn...
And he transferred to maybe a better team??
P.S.- well see how healthy a team after playing Bama then UW!
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Post by boydo on Sept 2, 2017 21:47:59 GMT -8
He was in mop up duty in a 66-0 win over incarnate Word. Very impressive.
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Post by nabeav on Sept 2, 2017 21:48:42 GMT -8
Funny thought... 3M transfers to a school that was 1-11 last year, new coach, 40+ new players to the program, new schemes to learn... And he transferred to maybe a better team?? Nope. It takes at least 4-5 years to turn a program around, and that is if you won 5 games the previous year and went to a bowl game the year before that.
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Post by baseba1111 on Sept 2, 2017 21:50:54 GMT -8
Funny thought... 3M transfers to a school that was 1-11 last year, new coach, 40+ new players to the program, new schemes to learn... And he transferred to maybe a better team?? Nope. It takes at least 4-5 years to turn a program around, and that is if you won 5 games the previous year and went to a bowl game the year before that. I'd take even money that Tedford (if he stays put and doesn't come here first) in that league will go bowling with Fresno before GA takes OSU with this current staff.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Sept 2, 2017 22:09:23 GMT -8
Nope. It takes at least 4-5 years to turn a program around, and that is if you won 5 games the previous year and went to a bowl game the year before that. I'd take even money that Tedford (if he stays put and doesn't come here first) in that league will go bowling with Fresno before GA takes OSU with this current staff. Interesting scenario... Beavs lose out, coaching change is made, Tedford in, 3M studies hard and obtains masters degree by end of summer.... wants another masters FSU doesn't offer and still has a year of eligibility.... what are the rules as far as transfering again? --Not that I want to see any of this happen--
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Sept 2, 2017 22:15:06 GMT -8
Nope. It takes at least 4-5 years to turn a program around, and that is if you won 5 games the previous year and went to a bowl game the year before that. I'd take even money that Tedford (if he stays put and doesn't come here first) in that league will go bowling with Fresno before GA takes OSU with this current staff. Tedford could take Fresno to a bowl this year. It wouldn't be the first time he turned around a team in 1 season. I wouldn't put it past him. Cal was 1-10 the year before he got there. Won 7 games season one. If he hadn't inherited Cal's academic probation mess the team would have gone bowling.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Sept 2, 2017 22:28:50 GMT -8
I wonder how DG would fare vs Incarnate Word? I'd bet the under on 100 yards and 2TDs (passing). SaveSaveAnd 3M had every chance to be in DG's role right now. I think now is a good time to say that there is no way 3M is as good or fast a runner as DG. 3M is a much better qb, but a lot of posts today have stayed 3M is a better runner than DG. No chance. 3M ran just fine in the Civil War game, otherwise he didn't run much. McMaryion was credited with a 4.7 forty time at some point, I'm finding 4.72-4.82 for Garretson. Who knows?
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Post by zebraworks on Sept 2, 2017 23:23:26 GMT -8
maybe DG has improved his passing skills? how long has it been since we saw him throw the ball deep??
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Post by RenoBeaver on Sept 3, 2017 4:15:25 GMT -8
I wonder how DG would fare vs Incarnate Word? I'd bet the under on 100 yards and 2TDs (passing). SaveSaveAnd 3M had every chance to be in DG's role right now. I think now is a good time to say that there is no way 3M is as good or fast a runner as DG. 3M is a much better qb, but a lot of posts today have stayed 3M is a better runner than DG. No chance. Still, I'll take the vastly better passer with decent running skills over the great runner with no passing skills anyday. It just needs to be a threat and it opens up the entire offense. But if you can't pass too, or if your best pass is throwing to the WR at the sideline behind the LOS, you're not moving the chains.
So yeah, QB isn't the problem. The system, which has now changed a 3rd time, is. The thing that was really opening up the offense last year was 3Ms ability to run (when needed), pass (when needed), and implement all the misdirection plays. I remember there were videos showing our OL pulling on run plays and some of them were 4 or 5 yards downfield before they ever touched anybody! Throw Nall behind that? Yikes.
It's just mind-blowing that this staff looked at the game film at the end of last season, the kids that were coming back, and came to the conclusion that what this offense really needs is a 6-7 pro-style QB. It's completely changed the playbook from last season, and specifically took away everything that was working.
I won't be surprised if at some point DG takes over at starting QB and they basically go back to running the same offense they ran last year. In like game 8.
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Post by grackle on Sept 3, 2017 6:46:24 GMT -8
Honestly, nothing this coaching staff does surprises me anymore. Very little they do makes any sense either. Given GA's history here, this year's offense seems to utilize little/nothing of what worked previously.
The defense plays as if the Keystone Kops had lined up in a 3-4. Certainly the results make it look as if that's the case. Is anyone even coaching these guys?
After having come so far since the 30 yr losing streak, how has OSU football reverted to a joke so quickly?
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Post by beaverbeliever on Sept 3, 2017 7:52:07 GMT -8
The difference right now on offense is the line's inability to run block. Clearly Sean Harlow (now on an NFL 53-man roster) was not easily replaced. If we could run as successfully as we did against AZ and Oregon, we would be.
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