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Post by grackle on Aug 31, 2017 18:53:21 GMT -8
Lots of easy excuses for the Beavs poor showing at Ft. Collins....too hot, too high, etc., etc. But as has been pointed out previously, the real in-game problems centered on poor defensive organization and poor offensive play calling.
IMO, along with Anderson's apparent inability to recruit any more effectively than MR, these are signs of deep problems in a third year program.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 18:56:18 GMT -8
First game of the third year, no less! Has he no shame?!
Crucify him!
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Post by ostate on Aug 31, 2017 19:07:30 GMT -8
Lots of easy excuses for the Beavs poor showing at Ft. Collins....too hot, too high, etc., etc. But as has been pointed out previously, the real in-game problems centered on poor defensive organization and poor offensive play calling. IMO, along with Anderson's apparent inability to recruit any more effectively than MR, these are signs of deep problems in a third year program. That's fine - keep rooting for your $uck$ then... |
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Post by baseba1111 on Aug 31, 2017 19:54:25 GMT -8
First game of the third year, no less! Has he no shame?! Crucify him! Jimbo you seem to "crucify" with sarcasm anyone who points out factual deficiencies of the GA regime, do tell us what there is to praise? At 6-19... but more importantly the who, what, how, and why we are so bad... tell us... please 😊 No excuses, reasons... just simple facts of what GA has done to "put players in a position to win championships... cuz "if you're not your in the wrong line of work". Thx |
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Post by ee1990 on Aug 31, 2017 20:04:19 GMT -8
Frankly, now that we've moved on from he who shall not be named, I'm proud of our fan base for not tolerating losing. We wouldn't have been this unhappy 10 years ago.
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Post by ee1990 on Aug 31, 2017 20:05:16 GMT -8
First game of the third year, no less! Has he no shame?! Crucify him! Not just the first game of the year, but a 4 TD loss to a MWC team. 2 can play this stupid game. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 31, 2017 20:16:38 GMT -8
Frankly, now that we've moved on from he who shall not be named, I'm proud of our fan base for not tolerating losing. We wouldn't have been this unhappy 10 years ago. You know what, if we had a way back machine, there were fans this unhappy coming into our 10 win season, 11 win season, and several of our 8 and 9 win seasons. We have, and have had, a lot of unhappy folk on the manic-depressive Beaver boards since I joined in '99. I expect it to continue on into the future. There were people ready to fire Erickson when we scraped by with a win over EWU years back... "Can't see another win this season". Nothing new under the sun. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Aug 31, 2017 20:25:13 GMT -8
Lots of easy excuses for the Beavs poor showing at Ft. Collins....too hot, too high, etc., etc. But as has been pointed out previously, the real in-game problems centered on poor defensive organization and poor offensive play calling. IMO, Â along with Anderson's apparent inability to recruit any more effectively than MR, these are signs of deep problems in a third year program. Â That's fine - keep rooting for your $uck$ then... Very mature response. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 20:43:45 GMT -8
First game of the third year, no less! Has he no shame?! Crucify him! Jimbo you seem to "crucify" with sarcasm anyone who points out factual deficiencies of the GA regime, do tell us what there is to praise? At 6-19... but more importantly the who, what, how, and why we are so bad... tell us... please 😊 No excuses, reasons... just simple facts of what GA has done to "put players in a position to win championships... cuz "if you're not your in the wrong line of work". Thx Baseba1111, I crucify you? Is that so? LOL! Maybe, then, you do have a conscience! If you've been paying attention, I grow most weary of the comparison of GA to MR. They are absolutely inane and senseless, particularly because they are coated with a thick syrup of longing or topped with barbs of blame. The fact is, MR is not coming back however hard you get for him. And for those who think the fans drove him away, well, they are very, very naive. The anti-GA sentiment on this board is crazy! Hell, I've been wondering if the Ducks have invaded. Last year, the team progressed. The Beavs played tough games and fought all the way. Some we won, and some we lost. That's enough for me. If I can watch the entire game and even stand up at the end and say "Well fought Beavs!" then I'm happy. GA has done that. Does it all come down to the winning percentage for you, Baseba1111? Oh how trite and boring your life must be! God help me if I ever judge a man simply by his wins and losses! |
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Post by baseba1111 on Aug 31, 2017 21:07:02 GMT -8
Jimbo you seem to "crucify" with sarcasm anyone who points out factual deficiencies of the GA regime, do tell us what there is to praise? At 6-19... but more importantly the who, what, how, and why we are so bad... tell us... please 😊 No excuses, reasons... just simple facts of what GA has done to "put players in a position to win championships... cuz "if you're not your in the wrong line of work". Thx Baseba1111, I crucify you? Is that so? LOL! Maybe, then, you do have a conscience! If you've been paying attention, I grow most weary of the comparison of GA to MR. They are absolutely inane and senseless, particularly because they are coated with a thick syrup of longing or topped with barbs of blame. The fact is, MR is not coming back however hard you get for him. And for those who think the fans drove him away, well, they are very, very naive. The anti-GA sentiment on this board is crazy! Hell, I've been wondering if the Ducks have invaded. Last year, the team progressed. The Beavs played tough games and fought all the way. Some we won, and some we lost. That's enough for me. If I can watch the entire game and even stand up at the end and say "Well fought Beavs!" then I'm happy. GA has done that. Does it all come down to the winning percentage for you, Baseba1111? Oh how trite and boring your life must be! God help me if I ever judge a man simply by his wins and losses! So... first you didn't read. The 6-19 was NOT what I and many others mention or focus on. Second... you did not bring up one let alone a short list of factual reasons GA deserves praise. So the only thing you got is your opinion we showed improvement? How so? Would that be because we had "wins"? Lol Third, there was no comparative mention in my post. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Aug 31, 2017 21:17:42 GMT -8
Jimbo you seem to "crucify" with sarcasm anyone who points out factual deficiencies of the GA regime, do tell us what there is to praise? At 6-19... but more importantly the who, what, how, and why we are so bad... tell us... please 😊 No excuses, reasons... just simple facts of what GA has done to "put players in a position to win championships... cuz "if you're not your in the wrong line of work". Thx Baseba1111, I crucify you? Is that so? LOL! Maybe, then, you do have a conscience! If you've been paying attention, I grow most weary of the comparison of GA to MR. They are absolutely inane and senseless, particularly because they are coated with a thick syrup of longing or topped with barbs of blame. The fact is, MR is not coming back however hard you get for him. And for those who think the fans drove him away, well, they are very, very naive. The anti-GA sentiment on this board is crazy! Hell, I've been wondering if the Ducks have invaded. Last year, the team progressed. The Beavs played tough games and fought all the way. Some we won, and some we lost. That's enough for me. If I can watch the entire game and even stand up at the end and say "Well fought Beavs!" then I'm happy. GA has done that. Does it all come down to the winning percentage for you, Baseba1111? Oh how trite and boring your life must be! God help me if I ever judge a man simply by his wins and losses! Mike Riley guy that was excited about Gary Andersen getting hired here. I too tire if the comparisons. Mike Riley was our last coach, so it's actually natural. I'd rather we just win some games. I know we won the CW last year and it was awesome, but I'll bet that Suck fans aren't losing sleep over CGA. I hope they do someday soon. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 21:31:28 GMT -8
Baseba1111, I crucify you? Is that so? LOL! Maybe, then, you do have a conscience! If you've been paying attention, I grow most weary of the comparison of GA to MR. They are absolutely inane and senseless, particularly because they are coated with a thick syrup of longing or topped with barbs of blame. The fact is, MR is not coming back however hard you get for him. And for those who think the fans drove him away, well, they are very, very naive. The anti-GA sentiment on this board is crazy! Hell, I've been wondering if the Ducks have invaded. Last year, the team progressed. The Beavs played tough games and fought all the way. Some we won, and some we lost. That's enough for me. If I can watch the entire game and even stand up at the end and say "Well fought Beavs!" then I'm happy. GA has done that. Does it all come down to the winning percentage for you, Baseba1111? Oh how trite and boring your life must be! God help me if I ever judge a man simply by his wins and losses! So... first you didn't read. The 6-19 was NOT what I and many others mention or focus on. Second... you did not bring up one let alone a short list of factual reasons GA deserves praise. So the only thing you got is your opinion we showed improvement? How so? Would that be because we had "wins"? Lol Third, there was no comparative mention in my post. First, you included others in your post. You asked me why I "crucify anyone who points out..." and you asked me to explain "why we are so bad...." So forgive me if you are not one of those standing in line to suck MR's dick. I lumped you in with them and that was wrong. But if you could overlook that little sin of mine, perhaps you could see why listening to fans bellyache about GA while they praise MR makes me sick. But I guess you took offense at being lumped in with the others and missed my point. My bad. I've never said that GA deserves praise. I've never said that GA is a great coach. I've never said that we shouldn't fire him. I simply want fellow Beaver fans to be a little patient. Again, Baseba1111, I guess I did not make myself clear. Let me try to spell it out for you. Improvement certainly can be seen in wins. But for me, improvement means that we are better than the year before. Let's see....GA's first year....How many games were even close? How about last year? Is that not a measure of improvement? Didn't you notice a marked improvement in the character of the team--the fact that even if we lost, we went down swinging? I can enjoy being a fan of a team that plays with heart. So have you seen enough this year to say that the Beavers are not improving? From one game? Back in Logic class we'd call that a hasty generalization. A fallacy. So you might end up judging him on other perceived wrongdoings, like not anointing 3M as the starter this year. Seems to me that this, too, is weak evidence to condemn him. Your evidence to hang the man is premature. That's all. Let's just be patient and see what happens. Perhaps there's a method to what he is implementing. Perhaps he's just not cut out for the job. But based upon last year's performance, would you have fired him then? So why after 1 game this year? |
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Post by beavdowg on Aug 31, 2017 22:25:32 GMT -8
I'm willing to give the man this season in hopes that CSU turns out to be a 9,10 win team and we shows signs of improvement. However, my measure of improvement, in year 3, is W's and L's. This is, in the words of our said friend, "Big Boy Football", so I think it's fair to use W's and L's as the metric, again, in year 3 , that we're improving. If we show more than 4 wins then I'm willing to give him another year but if it's 4 or less wins I think it's fair to call a spade a spade and realize that CGA does not have the program going in the right direction.
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Post by bill82 on Sept 1, 2017 1:41:05 GMT -8
Scott Barnes has to be making a list. If for nothing else to keep his mind of these depressing pressers. Seems like anger, selfishness, and delusion are the primary skill set.
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Post by ee1990 on Sept 1, 2017 11:21:28 GMT -8
Frankly, now that we've moved on from he who shall not be named, I'm proud of our fan base for not tolerating losing. We wouldn't have been this unhappy 10 years ago. You know what, if we had a way back machine, there were fans this unhappy coming into our 10 win season, 11 win season, and several of our 8 and 9 win seasons. We have, and have had, a lot of unhappy folk on the manic-depressive Beaver boards since I joined in '99. I expect it to continue on into the future. There were people ready to fire Erickson when we scraped by with a win over EWU years back... "Can't see another win this season". Nothing new under the sun. We can agree to disagree. IMO, we never would have been this collectively upset with a Riley team losing that game and then going 8-5. This team isn't going to win 8 games and we all know it. There would have been a larger population preaching temperance and patience. Maybe it's just the demographic here. |
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