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Post by kersting13 on Jun 8, 2017 12:58:15 GMT -8
it was most certainly timed to inflict damage on the university, Pat Casey, and especially the BB team.. It was timed to get the oregonian the most page clicks, reads, article posts, and any other attention possible. Everything else is just collateral damage to them. |
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Post by blueheron on Jun 8, 2017 13:03:23 GMT -8
it was most certainly timed to inflict damage on the university, Pat Casey, and especially the BB team.. It was timed to get the oregonian the most page clicks, reads, article posts, and any other attention possible. Everything else is just collateral damage to them. There is absolutely no doubt about that, and their mission has been accomplished. This has now become a national story. |
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Post by beaverbeliever on Jun 8, 2017 13:03:37 GMT -8
it was most certainly timed to inflict damage on the university, Pat Casey, and especially the BB team.. It was timed to get the oregonian the most page clicks, reads, article posts, and any other attention possible. Everything else is just collateral damage to them. Absolutely this. They've now posted 3 articles on the topic, their columnist is talking about it on his radio show, and the reporter has already been a guest on another radio program. |
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Post by lefty on Jun 8, 2017 13:11:34 GMT -8
This article served no purpose (good) what so ever. The only ones that will benefit from it are the writers and newspaper. They may have not name the victim, but she will have to deal with this too. Whether or not if the newspaper had the right to publish it doesn't matter. It served no good only harm. I hope both Luke and this young girl are receiving counselling after this. The printing of this was malicious and reprehensible and will only do harm to all involved for years. Disgusting and journalism at its worse.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 13:17:48 GMT -8
It was timed to get the oregonian the most page clicks, reads, article posts, and any other attention possible. Everything else is just collateral damage to them. Absolutely this. They've now posted 3 articles on the topic, their columnist is talking about it on his radio show, and the reporter has already been a guest on another radio program. Canswallow has not written any articles about Beaver Baseball all season. Mr. Bandwagon's conspicuous silence suggests he knew muck was being raked and would be directed at the fan at precisely the moment to do the most damage. |
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Post by beaverdude on Jun 8, 2017 13:21:27 GMT -8
This is nothing more that double jeopardy being imposed by the court of public opinion.
What he did was wrong.
The State of Washington took appropriate legal action against him and he successfully completed all mandated actions.
This have not have been newsworthy if he were just a student. It's news because he plays baseball really well.
Yes, what he did was wrong.
He has paid his debt to society. He should be able to live the rest of his life.
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Post by nabeav on Jun 8, 2017 14:18:58 GMT -8
You're damn right it wouldn't have been newsworthy if he was a normal student. But he's not. He gets plenty of perks that normal students don't get as well....comes with the territory.
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Post by nabeav on Jun 8, 2017 14:22:28 GMT -8
Also, what exactly has been his "debt to society?" He did no jail time. He paid no fine. He did no community service. His record would've remained hidden if he'd called the state. He was in a diversion program and attended treatment for two years.
You know what else was two years? The length of time between when he started inappropriately touching a preschool aged child and when she apparently worked up the nerve to tell someone about it.
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Post by beaverbeliever on Jun 8, 2017 14:33:40 GMT -8
You can take that up with the criminal justice system. The professionals there determined what he had to do, and he abided by that.
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Post by jimbeav on Jun 8, 2017 14:43:44 GMT -8
I don't know how this will all pan out with Luke and this team, but one thing is coming that's crystal clear to me: Get ready for a witch hunt against OSU.
I've read the entire Oregonian piece, as well as the editor's column, and then Canzano's rant. And there's a consistent theme: A constant drumbeat of asking the question, what did OSU know, and when did they know it? And here's the thing: It doesn't matter what the answer is, because OSU will come out looking bad either way.
If OSU knew, then they'll be raked over the coals. And if they didn't know? Same thing. They should've known, simple as that. It's a no-win situation. The media's going to eat OSU alive. Let the witch hunt begin.
Going forward from here, I see two possibilities. Either...
1) OSU says they didn't know, that their admission and recruiting practices are insufficient and need to be improved, and Luke will be thrown completely under the bus and basically off the team. The university goes into pure damage control mode and joins the rest of us in their feelings of outrage and betrayal, and promises with ringing hands that this is an aberration that will never, ever happen again. Luke silently exits stage left and the team tries to shake this off as best they can.
2) Casey comes out personally and takes full responsibility, confirming that he knew and looked into it and made the call that it was all under the bridge and he felt he could help this boy grow into a man. He will sacrifice significant political capital, and will likely take a lot of heat from many sides. But if he knew, he'll man up and take the heat. In this scenario, Luke likely stays on the team, and the rest of our games are a madhouse circus as every post-game question from the press will pepper our poor players asking about something that is the last thing they'd like to be talking about. I can see the questions to our players now: Did you know? Did you know that Casey knew? How does it feel that Casey knew? And on and on...
Personally, I think #1 is the likely scenario. I don't think Casey knew, or at least he didn't know the details; I don't see how anybody can read the testimony from that little girl and Luke's handwritten admission, and bring that person into your very successful and high-profile program.
Finally, speaking personally, it feels to me like this season is done. This is a disaster in every sense, with lots of losers and absolutely no winners, and I don't see how our players and coaches can get into a championship mindset now. What a run it was, though...
*sigh*...
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Post by nabeav on Jun 8, 2017 14:43:49 GMT -8
You can take that up with the criminal justice system. The professionals there determined what he had to do, and he abided by that. He did, until he didn't. Once he failed to make that phone call, this is the consequence. Seems like the law was pretty clear - he keeps on the straight and narrow and checks in when he's supposed to, and the state will keep him off the books. He made a mistake, and now he's paying the price for that. |
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Post by lefty on Jun 8, 2017 14:43:58 GMT -8
nabeav no one is dismissing the heinous act, but the reporting of this served no benefit only harm (except for the newspaper and writer). It is a sick act which needed and received treatment both for the victim and Luke. Neither one will ever forget this, but both need to recover and this is putting salt on a wound. Don't ever think that bringing this act up doesn't affect her. People can put two and two together and figure this out. This well might be the reason why her mother did not pursue it and go to the media. The publishing of this has brought great notoriety for the writer and harm to everyone else involved. It is an example of journalism at its worse.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2017 14:52:28 GMT -8
So has Danny Moran shot himself in the foot with this story? As just about the only guy covering OSU sports for the Oregonian, is he going to be well-received in the clubhouse and around the park now? Are players going to talk to him?
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Post by beaverbeliever on Jun 8, 2017 14:54:33 GMT -8
You can take that up with the criminal justice system. The professionals there determined what he had to do, and he abided by that. He did, until he didn't. Once he failed to make that phone call, this is the consequence. Seems like the law was pretty clear - he keeps on the straight and narrow and checks in when he's supposed to, and the state will keep him off the books. He made a mistake, and now he's paying the price for that. I think you need to read the article again. The citation about not calling in was dropped, likely due to being unfamiliar with Oregon's requirements. That's hardly going off the straight and narrow. |
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Post by nabeav on Jun 8, 2017 14:59:50 GMT -8
I get that. I still don't understand how, if he didn't know the law, he somehow managed to call in the past three years within 10 days of his birthday.
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