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Post by ag87 on Sept 28, 2024 17:01:02 GMT -8
We want a quality team. Memphis obviously fits that. But if we are in a pinch, take one team to get to eight. We don't want this, but (for instance) Missouri State or UTEP is not the end of the world. So negotiate from strength.
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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 28, 2024 17:16:16 GMT -8
We want a quality team. Memphis obviously fits that. But if we are in a pinch, take one team to get to eight. We don't want this, but (for instance) Missouri State or UTEP is not the end of the world. So negotiate from strength. Missouri St? We are not taking an FCS team. People need to get over this fact. |
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Post by ag87 on Sept 28, 2024 17:23:13 GMT -8
We want a quality team. Memphis obviously fits that. But if we are in a pinch, take one team to get to eight. We don't want this, but (for instance) Missouri State or UTEP is not the end of the world. So negotiate from strength. Missouri St? We are not taking an FCS team. People need to get over this fact. The point is - don't panic. Someone will be available. T-state is not stupid. If any chance exists to go to the PAC, they won't be going lateral (at best) to the watered-down Mountain West. Missouri State is in the process of going FBS (CUSA). |
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Post by seastape on Sept 28, 2024 17:48:09 GMT -8
Looking for an eighth team...or more.
We won't get a P4 team. If there are no more good football teams available, such as UNLV, Memphis or Tulane, then the Pac should focus on getting the best basketball school(s) available that also have/has an FBS football team, no matter the prowess of that team. Get Gonzaga, too.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 28, 2024 19:59:58 GMT -8
We want a quality team. Memphis obviously fits that. But if we are in a pinch, take one team to get to eight. We don't want this, but (for instance) Missouri State or UTEP is not the end of the world. So negotiate from strength. Missouri St? We are not taking an FCS team. People need to get over this fact. They have moved up to FBS, in Year 1 of the transition I think. But yes, we still don't want them. No need to get that desperate. Memphis wants out of the AAC. Give it time, keep talking, and it will get done, especially with the out clause to a P4 team available. |
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Post by lebaneaver on Sept 28, 2024 21:22:56 GMT -8
Missouri St? We are not taking an FCS team. People need to get over this fact. They have moved up to FBS, in Year 1 of the transition I think. But yes, we still don't want them. No need to get that desperate. Memphis wants out of the AAC. Give it time, keep talking, and it will get done, especially with the out clause to a P4 team available. Missouri f%#*ing State??? DESPERATION, if true. 🤮 |
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Post by joecool on Sept 29, 2024 0:10:05 GMT -8
They have moved up to FBS, in Year 1 of the transition I think. But yes, we still don't want them. No need to get that desperate. Memphis wants out of the AAC. Give it time, keep talking, and it will get done, especially with the out clause to a P4 team available. Missouri f%#*ing State??? DESPERATION, if true. 🤮 Not true |
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Post by korculabeav on Sept 29, 2024 8:12:24 GMT -8
Missouri f%#*ing State??? DESPERATION, if true. 🤮 Not true Thank you! Some people peddling this or Sac State or similar need to stop panicking. That is a race to the bottom to become the Sun Belt. |
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Post by ftd on Sept 29, 2024 11:19:51 GMT -8
Prediction: This whole thing will end up in a reverse merge with the (rest of ) the MWC...maybe a few of the lower level ones don't come.
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Post by escott58 on Sept 29, 2024 11:20:16 GMT -8
Personally, I see Sac State as a sleeping giant with about 2.2 million in the metro area. Can we afford to let some other conference take her?
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Post by Werebeaver on Sept 29, 2024 11:48:48 GMT -8
Personally, I see Sac State as a sleeping giant with about 2.2 million in the metro area. Can we afford to let some other conference take her? I see UC Davis, a mere 15 miles from downtown Sacramento as a much more interesting possibility. Academics - absolutely on-par with OSU, WSU, CSU, Utah St - if not superior to all. An ag school powerhouse with their own Medical AND Law schools. Enrollment 41,000 (Sac St 28,000) Endowment $2 Billion (Sac St $900 Million) Basketball Arena - ARC Pavilion capacity 7000 constructed 1977 (Sac St "Hornet's Nest" capacity 1000 constructed 1955). Football Stadium - UC Davis Health capacity 12,000 constructed 2006 (Sac St Hornet Stadium capacity 20,000 constructed 1968). While Davis' stadium is currently smaller, it was constructed much more recently and master-planned for expansion. Both are very unlikely to elevate to FBS status. But all things being equal I'd much rather have Davis in our conference as I see their potential upside substantially greater than Sac State's. From a market standpoint it's the EXACT same market - but with Davis having a greater statewide presence. UC Davis Health Stadium  Hornet Stadium  PS And while this article's title states that Sac St is "building" a new football stadium, the actual text describes the commissioning of a design firm to produce a "conceptual design". hornetsports.com/news/2024/9/26/general-sacramento-state-to-build-new-football-and-multi-use-stadium.aspxI don't see anything in that article about lead donors or financial commitments to this proposed project. Conceptual designs are a proverbial "dime-a-dozen". Arch firm and University Facility Plant archives are filled with "conceptual designs" that never attracted funding to proceed. PPS UC Davis and Sacramento State University are essentially equidistant from Sacramento International Airport. |
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Post by escott58 on Sept 29, 2024 12:46:10 GMT -8
Personally, I see Sac State as a sleeping giant with about 2.2 million in the metro area. Can we afford to let some other conference take her? I see UC Davis, a mere 15 miles from downtown Sacramento as a much more interesting possibility. Academics - absolutely on-par with OSU, WSU, CSU, Utah St - if not superior to all. An ag school powerhouse with their own Medical AND Law schools. Enrollment 41,000 (Sac St 28,000) Endowment $2 Billion (Sac St $900 Million) Basketball Arena - ARC Pavilion capacity 7000 constructed 1977 (Sac St "Hornet's Nest" capacity 1000 constructed 1955). Football Stadium - UC Davis Health capacity 12,000 constructed 2006 (Sac St Hornet Stadium capacity 20,000 constructed 1968). While Davis' stadium is currently smaller, it was constructed much more recently and master-planned for expansion. ... Good information! Now I like both. Both have gymnastics, unless it's been dropped recently. The Kings' bb facilities are also being discussed to be used. Nice track at the Sac St fb field! |
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Post by 93beav on Sept 29, 2024 14:23:32 GMT -8
I was reading an earlier post on the House and saw that UNLV, AFA and Wyoming were 3 of the top 4 schools (outside of Boise, who was #2) in the MWC last year when it comes to TV ratings. Should we not scrounge up a little money to take one of them - like go back to UNLV? Or...take Wyoming or at least force the MWC to deplete more of their "expected" funds to retain them?
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 29, 2024 14:47:25 GMT -8
I was reading an earlier post on the House and saw that UNLV, AFA and Wyoming were 3 of the top 4 schools (outside of Boise, who was #2) in the MWC last year when it comes to TV ratings. Should we not scrounge up a little money to take one of them - like go back to UNLV? Or...take Wyoming or at least force the MWC to deplete more of their "expected" funds to retain them? They have all signed on the MWC. Too late, that ship has sailed. |
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Post by 93beav on Sept 29, 2024 14:59:10 GMT -8
I was reading an earlier post on the House and saw that UNLV, AFA and Wyoming were 3 of the top 4 schools (outside of Boise, who was #2) in the MWC last year when it comes to TV ratings. Should we not scrounge up a little money to take one of them - like go back to UNLV? Or...take Wyoming or at least force the MWC to deplete more of their "expected" funds to retain them? They have all signed on the MWC. Too late, that ship has sailed. From our own Dr. Bill Farley, regarding the MOUs that the MWC schools signed: "MOUs are not necessarily binding. Most are not and include many conditions. "Formally agreed to sign" a future Grant of Rights also seems tenuous and subject to conditions. Translation: All MWC schools still in play." |
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