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Post by beavsaregood on Sept 29, 2024 15:45:35 GMT -8
Personally, I see Sac State as a sleeping giant with about 2.2 million in the metro area. Can we afford to let some other conference take her? I see UC Davis, a mere 15 miles from downtown Sacramento as a much more interesting possibility. Academics - absolutely on-par with OSU, WSU, CSU, Utah St - if not superior to all. An ag school powerhouse with their own Medical AND Law schools. Enrollment 41,000 (Sac St 28,000) Endowment $2 Billion (Sac St $900 Million) Basketball Arena - ARC Pavilion capacity 7000 constructed 1977 (Sac St "Hornet's Nest" capacity 1000 constructed 1955). Football Stadium - UC Davis Health capacity 12,000 constructed 2006 (Sac St Hornet Stadium capacity 20,000 constructed 1968). While Davis' stadium is currently smaller, it was constructed much more recently and master-planned for expansion. Both are very unlikely to elevate to FBS status. But all things being equal I'd much rather have Davis in our conference as I see their potential upside substantially greater than Sac State's. From a market standpoint it's the EXACT same market - but with Davis having a greater statewide presence. UC Davis Health Stadium  Hornet Stadium  PS And while this article's title states that Sac St is "building" a new football stadium, the actual text describes the commissioning of a design firm to produce a "conceptual design". hornetsports.com/news/2024/9/26/general-sacramento-state-to-build-new-football-and-multi-use-stadium.aspxI don't see anything in that article about lead donors or financial commitments to this proposed project. Conceptual designs are a proverbial "dime-a-dozen". Arch firm and University Facility Plant archives are filled with "conceptual designs" that never attracted funding to proceed. PPS UC Davis and Sacramento State University are essentially equidistant from Sacramento International Airport. I've been thinking this for quite a while. Academically, they are by far superior. But, it's a college town on the way to Sactown from bay area. They are Aggies. So, they have similar interests as a school. They have a very good football program to me. I think Mike Bellotti and Chris Petersen matriculated and coached a little there. Not sure. Our bud, haha, Dan Hawkins was recently there. I think UC Davis would be a great fit(So would Sac State. UC Davis is preferable for me but I'm not sure of the support for football. I don't doubt the support for the school. UC Davis would be a good add. If we cannot add UNLV, UTSA, Memphis, and/or Tulane, then, yeah. Build up UC Davis. Take a shot for bball with Gonzaga. Hell, add UConn if they'd take us. I don't care at this point. Do something different. But, don't F it up. Haha. |
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Post by beavsaregood on Sept 29, 2024 15:47:30 GMT -8
Revive football at Long Beach State? The Beach!
and their baseball should be solid.
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Post by joecool on Sept 29, 2024 15:48:16 GMT -8
I see we are back to speculating about MW teams that aren't available and current FCS team. Ok...time to move on.
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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 29, 2024 15:52:45 GMT -8
Personally, I see Sac State as a sleeping giant with about 2.2 million in the metro area. Can we afford to let some other conference take her? I see UC Davis, a mere 15 miles from downtown Sacramento as a much more interesting possibility. Academics - absolutely on-par with OSU, WSU, CSU, Utah St - if not superior to all. An ag school powerhouse with their own Medical AND Law schools. Enrollment 41,000 (Sac St 28,000) Endowment $2 Billion (Sac St $900 Million) Basketball Arena - ARC Pavilion capacity 7000 constructed 1977 (Sac St "Hornet's Nest" capacity 1000 constructed 1955). Football Stadium - UC Davis Health capacity 12,000 constructed 2006 (Sac St Hornet Stadium capacity 20,000 constructed 1968). While Davis' stadium is currently smaller, it was constructed much more recently and master-planned for expansion. Both are very unlikely to elevate to FBS status. But all things being equal I'd much rather have Davis in our conference as I see their potential upside substantially greater than Sac State's. From a market standpoint it's the EXACT same market - but with Davis having a greater statewide presence. UC Davis Health Stadium Hornet Stadium PS And while this article's title states that Sac St is "building" a new football stadium, the actual text describes the commissioning of a design firm to produce a "conceptual design". hornetsports.com/news/2024/9/26/general-sacramento-state-to-build-new-football-and-multi-use-stadium.aspxI don't see anything in that article about lead donors or financial commitments to this proposed project. Conceptual designs are a proverbial "dime-a-dozen". Arch firm and University Facility Plant archives are filled with "conceptual designs" that never attracted funding to proceed. PPS UC Davis and Sacramento State University are essentially equidistant from Sacramento International Airport. Good lord. When are people going to realize that we’re not adding an FCS team to conference. Just stop. |
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Post by beavsaregood on Sept 29, 2024 16:05:32 GMT -8
Santa Clara University used to have a football team. Revive it. Hahaha! Let's go Brent Jones! University of San Francisco.......Pete Rozelle! Let's go!!!
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Post by beavsaregood on Sept 29, 2024 16:08:52 GMT -8
Dan Pastorini. SCU let's go!
Steve DeBerg. SJSU let's go.......
oh........gawd............we are f'd.
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Post by Werebeaver on Sept 29, 2024 16:23:55 GMT -8
I see UC Davis, a mere 15 miles from downtown Sacramento as a much more interesting possibility. Academics - absolutely on-par with OSU, WSU, CSU, Utah St - if not superior to all. An ag school powerhouse with their own Medical AND Law schools. Enrollment 41,000 (Sac St 28,000) Endowment $2 Billion (Sac St $900 Million) Basketball Arena - ARC Pavilion capacity 7000 constructed 1977 (Sac St "Hornet's Nest" capacity 1000 constructed 1955). Football Stadium - UC Davis Health capacity 12,000 constructed 2006 (Sac St Hornet Stadium capacity 20,000 constructed 1968). While Davis' stadium is currently smaller, it was constructed much more recently and master-planned for expansion. Both are very unlikely to elevate to FBS status. But all things being equal I'd much rather have Davis in our conference as I see their potential upside substantially greater than Sac State's. From a market standpoint it's the EXACT same market - but with Davis having a greater statewide presence. UC Davis Health Stadium Hornet Stadium PS And while this article's title states that Sac St is "building" a new football stadium, the actual text describes the commissioning of a design firm to produce a "conceptual design". hornetsports.com/news/2024/9/26/general-sacramento-state-to-build-new-football-and-multi-use-stadium.aspxI don't see anything in that article about lead donors or financial commitments to this proposed project. Conceptual designs are a proverbial "dime-a-dozen". Arch firm and University Facility Plant archives are filled with "conceptual designs" that never attracted funding to proceed. PPS UC Davis and Sacramento State University are essentially equidistant from Sacramento International Airport. Good lord. When are people going to realize that we’re not adding an FCS team to conference. Just stop. Simmer down. I said in my post that neither Sac St or Davis are likely to pursue elevation to FBS. BUT it is interesting to note that UCD’s $2 Billion endowment is larger than uo, OSU or WSU’s. Does that mean anything? Probably not. This is all just message board nonsense. Sorry if I put a damper on your enjoyment. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 29, 2024 16:25:19 GMT -8
Good lord. When are people going to realize that we’re not adding an FCS team to conference. Just stop. Calm down. I said in my post that neither Sac St or Davis are likely to pursue elevation to FBS. BUT it is interesting to note that UCD’s $2 Billion endowment is larger than uo, OSU or WSU’s. Does that mean anything? Probably not. This is all just message board nonsense. Sorry if I put a damper on your enjoyment. Are you a Stanford fan? Nobody gives a s%#t about academics in their conference. Yes, it is nonsense. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Sept 29, 2024 16:26:25 GMT -8
Calm down. I said in my post that neither Sac St or Davis are likely to pursue elevation to FBS. BUT it is interesting to note that UCD’s $2 Billion endowment is larger than uo, OSU or WSU’s. Does that mean anything? Probably not. This is all just message board nonsense. Sorry if I put a damper on your enjoyment. Are you a Stanford fan? Nobody gives a s%#t about academics in their conference. Yes, it is nonsense. And as we all know, nonsense is not allowed on this board. LOL. |
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Post by Angus on Sept 29, 2024 17:42:14 GMT -8
Calm down. I said in my post that neither Sac St or Davis are likely to pursue elevation to FBS. BUT it is interesting to note that UCD’s $2 Billion endowment is larger than uo, OSU or WSU’s. Does that mean anything? Probably not. This is all just message board nonsense. Sorry if I put a damper on your enjoyment. Are you a Stanford fan? Nobody gives a s%#t about academics in their conference. Yes, it is nonsense. I suppose the ACC took Cal and Furd because of their football and Bball programs? Yes, academics matter ALOT in conferences. Not too mention Big10 membership has alot to do with AAU accreditation. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 29, 2024 18:05:45 GMT -8
Are you a Stanford fan? Nobody gives a s%#t about academics in their conference. Yes, it is nonsense. I suppose the ACC took Cal and Furd because of their football and Bball programs? Yes, academics matter ALOT in conferences. Not too mention Big10 membership has alot to do with AAU accreditation. And which P4 conference is the next to blow up? It’s all media deals now, if you want academics, join the Ivy League. And why did the Big10 pass on Kal and Stanford? |
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Post by korculabeav on Sept 29, 2024 18:52:09 GMT -8
I suppose the ACC took Cal and Furd because of their football and Bball programs? Yes, academics matter ALOT in conferences. Not too mention Big10 membership has alot to do with AAU accreditation. And which P4 conference is the next to blow up? It’s all media deals now, if you want academics, join the Ivy League. And why did the Big10 pass on Kal and Stanford? Because the B1G confused UCLA for Cal thinking they were one university 😏 |
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Post by irimi on Sept 30, 2024 4:47:26 GMT -8
Personally, I see Sac State as a sleeping giant with about 2.2 million in the metro area. Can we afford to let some other conference take her? I see UC Davis, a mere 15 miles from downtown Sacramento as a much more interesting possibility. Academics - absolutely on-par with OSU, WSU, CSU, Utah St - if not superior to all. An ag school powerhouse with their own Medical AND Law schools. Enrollment 41,000 (Sac St 28,000) Endowment $2 Billion (Sac St $900 Million) Basketball Arena - ARC Pavilion capacity 7000 constructed 1977 (Sac St "Hornet's Nest" capacity 1000 constructed 1955). Football Stadium - UC Davis Health capacity 12,000 constructed 2006 (Sac St Hornet Stadium capacity 20,000 constructed 1968). While Davis' stadium is currently smaller, it was constructed much more recently and master-planned for expansion. Both are very unlikely to elevate to FBS status. But all things being equal I'd much rather have Davis in our conference as I see their potential upside substantially greater than Sac State's. From a market standpoint it's the EXACT same market - but with Davis having a greater statewide presence. UC Davis Health Stadium Hornet Stadium PS And while this article's title states that Sac St is "building" a new football stadium, the actual text describes the commissioning of a design firm to produce a "conceptual design". hornetsports.com/news/2024/9/26/general-sacramento-state-to-build-new-football-and-multi-use-stadium.aspxI don't see anything in that article about lead donors or financial commitments to this proposed project. Conceptual designs are a proverbial "dime-a-dozen". Arch firm and University Facility Plant archives are filled with "conceptual designs" that never attracted funding to proceed. PPS UC Davis and Sacramento State University are essentially equidistant from Sacramento International Airport. I like this idea. Davis is a well-respected university. But what about both? The two teams have been playing the Causeway Classic for nearly 70 years. |
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Post by korculabeav on Sept 30, 2024 8:10:34 GMT -8
I see UC Davis, a mere 15 miles from downtown Sacramento as a much more interesting possibility. Academics - absolutely on-par with OSU, WSU, CSU, Utah St - if not superior to all. An ag school powerhouse with their own Medical AND Law schools. Enrollment 41,000 (Sac St 28,000) Endowment $2 Billion (Sac St $900 Million) Basketball Arena - ARC Pavilion capacity 7000 constructed 1977 (Sac St "Hornet's Nest" capacity 1000 constructed 1955). Football Stadium - UC Davis Health capacity 12,000 constructed 2006 (Sac St Hornet Stadium capacity 20,000 constructed 1968). While Davis' stadium is currently smaller, it was constructed much more recently and master-planned for expansion. Both are very unlikely to elevate to FBS status. But all things being equal I'd much rather have Davis in our conference as I see their potential upside substantially greater than Sac State's. From a market standpoint it's the EXACT same market - but with Davis having a greater statewide presence. UC Davis Health Stadium Hornet Stadium PS And while this article's title states that Sac St is "building" a new football stadium, the actual text describes the commissioning of a design firm to produce a "conceptual design". hornetsports.com/news/2024/9/26/general-sacramento-state-to-build-new-football-and-multi-use-stadium.aspxI don't see anything in that article about lead donors or financial commitments to this proposed project. Conceptual designs are a proverbial "dime-a-dozen". Arch firm and University Facility Plant archives are filled with "conceptual designs" that never attracted funding to proceed. PPS UC Davis and Sacramento State University are essentially equidistant from Sacramento International Airport. I like this idea. Davis is a well-respected university. But what about both? The two teams have been playing the Causeway Classic for nearly 70 years. We want those two glorified high school stadiums in the Pac. Some of the MWC stadiums that came with some of the new members are not much better. There are high school stadiums in Texas better than those. NO THANK YOU. |
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Post by rgeorge on Sept 30, 2024 8:44:14 GMT -8
I like this idea. Davis is a well-respected university. But what about both? The two teams have been playing the Causeway Classic for nearly 70 years. We want those two glorified high school stadiums in the Pac. Some of the MWC stadiums that came with some of the new members are not much better. There are high school stadiums in Texas better than those. NO THANK YOU. Not arguing, and maybe some can see why the B12, SEC, B10 would not consider WSU & OSU?! Some of their stadiums hold 2x, 3x what Reser holds. Martin is even smaller. |
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