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Post by clydebeav on Sept 13, 2024 21:03:39 GMT -8
It really depends on the end goal. Are we going for a true “best of the rest” or trying to building the premier western conference. Also, is the goal 8 teams for now or 10 or 12? If we’re truly trying to keep it west, UNLV is a must. My next choice is an unpopular one. I’d take Wyoming. I feel like Colorado State needs a travel partner and I’m just personally not a fan of military schools if you’re trying to someday get back to some form of a “power” conference. If we’re willing to go east a little farther and get into Texas, I am personally drawn to the up and coming programs that seem invested in sports: UTSA and Texas State. I get liking Rice for baseball but we’re talking football. Rice and North Texas do not seem that invested in football. If we’re going best of the rest, I’m taking the conference to 12. Add UNLV. Add Texas State and UTSA to get into Texas and bridge the gap to the East. Then take the big 3 from the AAC in Memphis, Tulane and South Florida. Schedule the western teams against each other with 4 games against the eastern teams and vice versa (no divisions). Oregon State Washington State Boise State Fresno State San Diego State UNLV Colorado State UTSA Texas State Tulane Memphis South Florida I agree with everything you said except Texas State. They just seem like the weakest link to this whole thing. You're already in Texas with UTSA. It just seems like there should be a better SE choice... w/o divisions might work. I keep hearing they're going to 10, but USF is just tempting enough maybe they go full 12. But then again, if they wait at 10 maybe...someone unexpected in the future? Texas State just beat UTSA 49-10 last weekend and almost beat Arizona State this weekend. You may be right in that we don’t need both. It may be a guessing game as to which is better to bring on and invest in. So if you’re going 10, bring one of those 2 to be a travel partner with Colorado State (wish there was someone closer). Then Memphis and Tulane as well as UNLV (assuming you can separate them from Nevada). BTW, this hypothetical conference building is even more fun when the conference is being built in real life. |
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Post by den60 on Sept 13, 2024 21:15:10 GMT -8
I'm guessing Memphis, UNT, UTSA and Gonzaga. Gets 9 FB schools for an 8 game conference schedule and Gonzaga for 16 game BB schedule. UNLV may be sorted in later, don't really see them being left behind and it could be that the new members expect to see the MWC schools scatter looking for a landing spot. AFA would definitely depart for the AAC and UNM may be thinking that would be best for them as well. They leave and it makes it easier politically and, possibly, financially to then take UNLV. I'm just glad we are now out of the MWC. Wasn't quite the conference we expected to join 2 years ago but is definitely a step up. I highly doubt Gonzaga is a part of this. They like where they’re at and have already turned down BB only membership options from the Big 12. Don't see the WCC sustaining them at their current level and neither the Big East of 12 are going to invite them. If you add Memphis then this is more than enough for Memphis to jump. I think Memphis and Tulane will, because they are likely locked out of the CFP in the AAC. |
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Post by den60 on Sept 13, 2024 21:20:16 GMT -8
UNLV won't be left behind. But that is, likely, the last west school added unless the PAC is shutout by the AAC. But I am hearing Memphis is a yes. You put Memphis in with Gonzaga and SDSU in the conference and those are three formidable BB programs. Boise and CSU have been good in recent years. UNLV is getting better but still has room to improve. Ore. St and WSU have had some success |
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Post by joecool on Sept 13, 2024 22:05:17 GMT -8
UNLV won't be left behind. But that is, likely, the last west school added unless the PAC is shutout by the AAC. But I am hearing Memphis is a yes. You put Memphis in with Gonzaga and SDSU in the conference and those are three formidable BB programs. Boise and CSU have been good in recent years. UNLV is getting better but still has room to improve. Ore. St and WSU have had some success I want to know where you are hearing that Memphis is a yes. |
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Post by den60 on Sept 13, 2024 22:18:06 GMT -8
UNLV won't be left behind. But that is, likely, the last west school added unless the PAC is shutout by the AAC. But I am hearing Memphis is a yes. You put Memphis in with Gonzaga and SDSU in the conference and those are three formidable BB programs. Boise and CSU have been good in recent years. UNLV is getting better but still has room to improve. Ore. St and WSU have had some success I want to know where you are hearing that Memphis is a yes. I meant Gonzaga is a yes. |
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Post by joecool on Sept 13, 2024 22:47:57 GMT -8
I want to know where you are hearing that Memphis is a yes. I meant Gonzaga is a yes. Same question, where did you hear Gonzaga is a yes? |
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Post by 93beav on Sept 14, 2024 6:14:52 GMT -8
UNLV won't be left behind. But that is, likely, the last west school added unless the PAC is shutout by the AAC. But I am hearing Memphis is a yes. You put Memphis in with Gonzaga and SDSU in the conference and those are three formidable BB programs. Boise and CSU have been good in recent years. UNLV is getting better but still has room to improve. Ore. St and WSU have had some successin men's basketball??? Yes, one good year in what seems like one hundred. Luckily, we have one hundred million reasons why that won't matter. BTW, Welcome fellow conference member!  |
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Post by Werebeaver on Sept 14, 2024 9:38:39 GMT -8
I highly doubt Gonzaga is a part of this. They like where they’re at and have already turned down BB only membership options from the Big 12. Don't see the WCC sustaining them at their current level and neither the Big East of 12 are going to invite them. If you add Memphis then this is more than enough for Memphis to jump. I think Memphis and Tulane will, because they are likely locked out of the CFP in the AAC. I would expect WSU to block any moves toward adding Gonzaga. |
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Post by 93beav on Sept 14, 2024 9:52:59 GMT -8
Don't see the WCC sustaining them at their current level and neither the Big East of 12 are going to invite them. If you add Memphis then this is more than enough for Memphis to jump. I think Memphis and Tulane will, because they are likely locked out of the CFP in the AAC. I would expect WSU to block any moves toward adding Gonzaga. I wouldn't if it means more money. If you want to make them care less about Gonzaga, beat Gonzaga. |
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Post by 93beav on Sept 14, 2024 9:56:09 GMT -8
From scouring Twitter and other sources it really does appear that Memphis and Tulane are on the list.
Tulane folks (on one of their message boards) seem to be debating the $$$ aspect of it as some of them believe an ACC invite is imminent if the ACC loses Florida St/Clemson. But they very much also want to be tied to Memphis. If Memphis goes, they all want to go.
Some of them, and I've heard this elsewhere, seem to be throwing out ECU as a wild card possibility. I guess the real question is how many teams do we really want and how big is the media deal we have.
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Post by darthbeavs on Sept 14, 2024 10:09:35 GMT -8
Is it just me, or is everyone else looking forward to interacting with new fans of joining programs that aren't the complete tools as many of the fans of former Pac-12 teams were? Yes, all teams will compete against each other, and yes fans of those programs will cheer for their team to win, but afterwards, if feels like we'll be able to have discourse with the new Pac-12 fans without all the pretentious BS constantly slung about by, let's say it out loud, fans of the departed. And it won't be long before the new Pac-12 starts beating teams in the "power" conferences on the regular. Take for example BSU losing to Oregon FOR THE FIRST TIME last week (3-1 all-time record) with the funding the currently have. Imagine what they can do with more. Also, consider that the Schmucks lost say 20ish players in the transfer portal this year, the significant majority of them having been 4-star recruits. They are nearly all rated as 3-star transfer prospects. It illustrates the point that you never know how things are going to pan out. In the bastardized words of Jackie Moon, "Everybody beat everybody!" Ok, ok, it's "Everybody love everybody", but I did mention bastardized.  GO BEAVS!! |
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Post by spudbeaver on Sept 14, 2024 10:23:17 GMT -8
I meant Gonzaga is a yes. Same question, where did you hear Gonzaga is a yes? On the Memphis website. |
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Post by 93beav on Sept 14, 2024 11:34:15 GMT -8
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Post by rgeorge on Sept 14, 2024 11:45:20 GMT -8
Hey Dennis... there is an administrative process for approval. Sometimes involving governmental approval. Maybe some aren't they're yet. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Sept 14, 2024 12:03:18 GMT -8
The Monty Show podcast yesterday said he had talked to several insiders saying the Pac isn't done with the MWC, but is trying to negotiate around the 10 million a team buyout. Something along those lines anyways. |
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