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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 12, 2024 20:45:19 GMT -8
CSU has been to the NCAAs in 2 of the last 3 years and has 20 or more wins in 4 of the last 5 seasons. It made the Sweet 16 in 2013 and the round of 32 in 2012. It has enjoyed some recent basketball success.
And Henry Steele played there, that has to count for something.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 12, 2024 20:45:54 GMT -8
The thing CSU should be applauded for, whether it bumped up their viewership or not, is they played Michigan. They showed they were willing to schedule big games. Keep that up, and they'll keep getting eyeballs. My hope is, if we keep getting "the best of the rest", there will be plenty of curiosity and increased viewership for the whole league. Yeah. I guess my thing with CSU is I just really feel meh about the Rams as a football add. Yeah, CSU was actually really good during a stretch from 1994-2002 and had another pretty good stretch from 2013-17 but a lot of not so great seasons before and after those periods. And just not very good in the last six seasons. When you look at Boise State and its football success and Fresno State's football success and then SDSU in basketball and budget, it's obvious that the Pac-12 is adding three power conference level schools. Not quite with CSU. And that's the whole thing. To me, if this rebuilt Pac-12 is going to really work, a lot of it hangs on grabbing teams that have the capability of succeeding on the football field/basketball court, to draw tv viewers and build national respect. But they probably see some good growth potential with CSU and who knows? The Rams could return to some football success. Boise, Colorado State, Fresno, and San Diego State represent four of the five most valuable teams in the Mountain West. There is no question. You can quibble about Colorado State versus UNLV, but UNLV has political issues to contend with that Colorado State is free of. I still hope that UNLV is team #7. I would love for Cal and Stanford to be teams #8 and #9. If not, maybe add Tulane and/or UTSA or one or two Mountain West teams. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Sept 12, 2024 21:13:57 GMT -8
CSU was first among MWC teams last year. Boise State was the only MWC program that could get somewhat decent numbers based at least in part on its brand. During the 2010s Boise was neck and neck with BYU in national TV viewership outside of the P5 teams. CSU got a huge boost in playing (paper tiger) Colorado, otherwise they are an afterthought in the Denver market. TBH I am surprised that CSU was invited over UNLV, but UNLV suffers from the same issue of being a small fish in a big pond. They have been successful the last 2 years but will they bring in viewers with all the other sports in that market long term?. They do not have the track record of being a strong long-term football program. Some thoughts.. I lived in Carson City from '05 to '16.....UNR owned UNLV in football during that time. Sidenote....I was at the 2010 Nevada/BSU game.....good times! Seems like media numbers for most MW teams are skewed based on higher profile opponents. My mom grew up in Boise.....I have a ton of family, and friends who are Bronco fans. I am really looking forward to the rivalry! |
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Post by orangethunder on Sept 13, 2024 5:02:17 GMT -8
Nobody has mentioned bringing Colorado back . Is there a reason ?
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Post by seastape on Sept 13, 2024 5:07:50 GMT -8
CSU has been to the NCAAs in 2 of the last 3 years and has 20 or more wins in 4 of the last 5 seasons. It made the Sweet 16 in 2013 and the round of 32 in 2012. It has enjoyed some recent basketball success. And Henry Steele played there, that has to count for something. I'm sorry...is that a One on One reference? |
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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 13, 2024 5:10:16 GMT -8
CSU has been to the NCAAs in 2 of the last 3 years and has 20 or more wins in 4 of the last 5 seasons. It made the Sweet 16 in 2013 and the round of 32 in 2012. It has enjoyed some recent basketball success. And Henry Steele played there, that has to count for something. I'm sorry...is that a One on One reference? He went to Western University in LA. But I think he was supposed to be from Ft. Collins |
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Post by orangethunder on Sept 13, 2024 5:34:26 GMT -8
Eastern Washington ?
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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 13, 2024 5:40:29 GMT -8
Post it on a few more threads. We’re not taking FCS schools. |
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Post by mike74 on Sept 13, 2024 6:20:34 GMT -8
I wouldn't count out Cal & Stanford or Arizona State. Cal and Stanford are hemorrhaging funds, Cal reportedly is $165 million in the red and Stanford not far behind, to make matters worse, Stanford and Cal, will be 30% of a whole ACC share for the next SEVEN years. Year 8 it goes to 70%, 75% in Year 9 and then full financial shares in the 10th year, that's a long time. Stanford had an endowment of $36.5 billion endowment as of Aug. 31, 2023. It has all the money it needs to either stay independent or buy its way into the Big Ten or Big 12 if the ACC implodes. Stanford Alumni have endowed nearly all coaching salaries and all player scholarships in nearly all sports as well as their AD personnel salaries. The permanent funding effort started decades ago and clearly has put Stanford in a unique situation in college athletics. Other schools have begun to emulate the Stanford approach, including Oregon, but I don’t believe any are near Stanford’s status. |
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Post by atownbeaver on Sept 13, 2024 7:05:25 GMT -8
Post it on a few more threads. We’re not taking FCS schools. Yeah. Just like we are not prying away existing P4 schools (except for MAYBE in the event of an actual ACC collapse but that is unlikely) we are not going to reach down to FCS. there is just no reason to do that. It doesn't help us. It doesn't bring enough fans or money. Our universe is quality G5 schools in good markets. North Texas, UTSA, Rice, Memphis, Tulane, out of the AAC, or teams out of the MAC, like maybe the three Michigans? The MWC might be the one to elevate them. not us. All the internet smoke is us going after the AAC teams. I don't know why, but that is what everyone else is saying. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 13, 2024 8:31:39 GMT -8
I'm sorry...is that a One on One reference? He went to Western University in LA. But I think he was supposed to be from Ft. Collins The movie was filmed at CSU. |
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Post by grayman on Sept 13, 2024 9:37:10 GMT -8
I thought this post by Flags Fly Forever on X was interesting because he mentions what I have been calling the formation of a second tier of college football teams after the super conference is formed...
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Post by 415hawaiiboy on Sept 13, 2024 9:42:32 GMT -8
I thought this post by Flags Fly Forever on X was interesting because he mentions what I have been calling the formation of a second tier of college football teams after the super conference is formed... There will probably be re-regionalization for non-B10 and SEC. I could see that around 2030, 2035 or so. Giving the PAC-12 war chest to the MWC would be quite lucrative for the MW. |
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Post by grayman on Sept 13, 2024 9:49:54 GMT -8
I thought this post by Flags Fly Forever on X was interesting because he mentions what I have been calling the formation of a second tier of college football teams after the super conference is formed... There will probably be re-regionalization for non-B10 and SEC. I could see that around 2030, 2035 or so. Giving the PAC-12 war chest to the MWC would be quite lucrative for the MW. The Big Ten and SEC would drop some teams and add others and then essentially merge to form the superconference in this scenario. That would probably be a 32-team conference, give or take. Others think there will be many more schools involved. As far as the Pac-12 giving the MWC its war chest, that's not happening as far as I've heard. More like $48 million, something like that. The $65 million from the 10 departed Pac-12 teams covers that. I believe they will still receive Rose Bowl payments ($100 million total) for the next two years and CFP payments on the old contract for the next two years, along with NCAA basketball payouts. |
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Post by obf on Sept 13, 2024 10:10:47 GMT -8
What about Texas State Bobcats? They acquitted themselves very well against ASU last night, and it keeps the State Farm / All State "PacState" Conference trend  Halfway between San Antonio and Austin, so you get both markets??? I realize they would be making the jump from FBS... This was mostly just to make the "State" school joke  Dang, they have 40,000 students! Just add a little fee to each one and they will have a new stadium ASAP |
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