escott58
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Post by escott58 on Apr 15, 2024 7:02:54 GMT -8
The OSU women's bball FB page ROASTED Burk over his comments. Waaaay over the top. Like pitchforks and nooses.....calling for his job! Crazy. I thought Burks questions/comments were appropriate. He showed no "hate". He simply expressed what the rest of us who are invested in OSU, and the women's B ball program were thinking. Its interesting that Burk gets roasted, yet Syd Weise doesn't. Syd actually called them out. I think it's a slap in the face to Beaver Nation for the narrative to be "show nothing but support, and love for these student athletes, while they put our program in the dumpster.". It's not fair to the program and those who support it. I assumed that fb page would be like that - it's the worldly way. Rainbows and unicorns unless you ask questions or need to be held accountable. I'm fine hanging out here where iron sharpens iron. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Apr 15, 2024 7:03:48 GMT -8
I just went to look at the FB thread where they roasted Burk, and couldn't find it. I guess I got kicked out of the group, and blocked for simply saying "I don't see anything wrong with what Burk said.". 😂
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Post by ag87 on Apr 15, 2024 7:06:20 GMT -8
The OSU women's bball FB page ROASTED Burk over his comments. Waaaay over the top. Like pitchforks and nooses.....calling for his job! Crazy. I thought Burks questions/comments were appropriate. He showed no "hate". He simply expressed what the rest of us who are invested in OSU, and the women's B ball program were thinking. Its interesting that Burk gets roasted, yet Syd Weise doesn't. Syd actually called them out. I think it's a slap in the face to Beaver Nation for the narrative to be "show nothing but support, and love for these student athletes, while they put our program in the dumpster.". It's not fair to the program and those who support it. I'm glad I don't have facebook. I shut mine down seven years ago now. The analogy that comes to my mind in your description of the responses Burk got is the abused wife who refuses to press charges after getting beat (again and again). Saying that, we all have done stupid things we regret. When you are about 20 years old, you are more likely to do them than when you are older. But it doesn't protect you from all feedback. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Apr 15, 2024 7:08:24 GMT -8
At the end of the day, I'm disappointed with the mass exodus. I don't wish the student athletes any ill will. I'm also not going to follow their careers. I pretty much only follow Beavs.....they are no longer Beavs.
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Post by rafer on Apr 15, 2024 7:30:17 GMT -8
At the end of the day, I'm disappointed with the mass exodus. I don't wish the student athletes any ill will. I'm also not going to follow their careers. I pretty much only follow Beavs.....they are no longer Beavs. Haven't seen this yet, BUT, did any of the exiting players actually meet with SR before crapping on him, the team, fans and school? Or did they chicken out and sneak out under cover of darkness without so much as a handshake or hug? I've seen nothing from any of them, only the plagiarized copy of the "I'm a Beaver" bull s%#te! Did they actually do an exit interview? In fact I've never seen where any portals refer to exiting process. Just curious I guess. |
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Post by bvrblvr on Apr 15, 2024 7:51:52 GMT -8
I'm not sure I know the definition of "hate" anymore. If someone comes up to me and says, "What do you think of my new purple shirt" and I say "I think you'd look better in blue" or "I don't think purple is your color". Is that "hate" now?
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Post by beaverstever on Apr 15, 2024 8:24:29 GMT -8
I'm not sure I know the definition of "hate" anymore. If someone comes up to me and says, "What do you think of my new purple shirt" and I say "I think you'd look better in blue" or "I don't think purple is your color". Is that "hate" now? "Hate" in this context is cultural lexicon that effectively means to 'criticize'. This is what TvO means. hate on somebody ​(informal) to express strong dislike for somebody; to criticize somebody or say something offensive to somebody The public love to hate on celebrities who behave badly. www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/hate-on#:~:text=hate%20on-,phrasal%20verb,on%20celebrities%20who%20behave%20badly. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Apr 15, 2024 8:36:22 GMT -8
Elite 8 team that could return and go even further.....also, keeping the program healthy in this turbulent time.....post season runs do a TON for recruiting.....strong culture, even in being relegated, would help recruiting.....instead, look out for #1, and crater the thing. That is what happened, period. No regard for the program.
In comparison, look at baseball......at least to this point. An ongoing culture of guys giving back to the program that they love, and that gave them so much. That's gratitude. The women's B ball culture seemed to be cut from the same cloth.....but now the words, and actions we saw, only went so deep......and yet we are supposed to just understand, and be happy for them? It's bizzaro world.
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Post by rafer on Apr 15, 2024 9:17:55 GMT -8
Can't help but wonder a few things. The last game was on March 31 in Albany and Talia announced her transfer decision on the afternoon of April 2. When was the meeting held then? It sounds like a group decision was made to bail, which one would hope wasn't just made starting from scratch on the day after the final game. I'm speculating here, but I would guess it had been an ongoing discussion while the season was still going on. Also, what would have been said at this meeting to convince 8 of 13 to leave? It couldn't have been just money; not much of that is going to be available to the non-starters wherever they go. The WCC thing doesn't ring true as the dominant thing either. They know how good they could have been, and they never even gave the school the opportunity to schedule tough opponents early. And I can't buy either that it had anything to do with the coaching staff. Nothing has been even implied by any of them that was a factor, and you all read Syd's post. So what the hell in this meeting triggered so many to jump ship? I don't suppose we'll ever know. In all fairness, it is a multi-hour plane ride back to CVO from Albany (NY). And did the team stay overnight in Albany after their SC game? Maybe meetings occurred then......That said, I noticed TvO appeared to me to be laboring under psychological strain after her "jump on the table" UCLA moment......Not hard for me to imagine the team's focus shifting to next season somewhere in there. And even us fans were guilty of "last time we're playing one of the T10 traitors" talk in their second go-around......Also, TvO graduated and may have tired of being the face of the program, started realizing while "built not bought" had a purity to it, the witticism "money can't buy you happiness, but it can get you pretty darn close" is also bandied about, and she may have found attraction in a new $tart with less "face of the program" burden. I also squint and imagine the women from different teams comparing notes on NIL/PT/coaching/playing styles at the tournament - there were several monied, storied programs in attendance....While conference affiliation might have been the only team meeting agenda item, there also may have been a cascade effect with entirely different motives at work: TvO leaving for love, Timea leaving to start, Beers leaving because she saw how Clark was monetizing greatness, Dono leaving because her assist gravy train was departing, Adlee leaving for more PT, Lily leaving because she wants to be closer to home, Marta leaving because Adlee's quest for more PT resonated with her, Dom leaving because all her friends were leaving.......all of this is mere speculation, and it doesn't matter. They're gone, by choice, as is their right. And the best thing about all of this? I actually had to go visit the OSU WBB roster page to recall all of the Elite 8 runaways' names (surprised even myself!). I'll be cheering for whomever takes to the Gill floor come November, wearing Orange and Black, representing my school, but likely from a bit of a distance compared to these last several years.....since now I've learned I'm one supposed team meeting away from having to reset on the players I'm cheering for..... Go (2024-2025 season) Beavers! I know we will probably never know what went on in this" team meeting", so be it. However, I can't help but think it would be helpful to everyone involved, coaches, fans, school, if one of the players would actually talk about it. They bailed and left the few crumbs for the remaining players, friends, and coaches to pick up and TRY to construct an actual team, once again. They were all fully aware of the terrible position they left their "friends and teammates" in to take the brunt of the pain, and yes, clearly did not care! I know the questions will linger, and likely die without explanation, but, if there is no explanation how can anyone understand and address a possible solution? Hope is eternal someone once said. |
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Post by gnawitall on Apr 15, 2024 9:54:10 GMT -8
In all fairness, it is a multi-hour plane ride back to CVO from Albany (NY). And did the team stay overnight in Albany after their SC game? Maybe meetings occurred then......That said, I noticed TvO appeared to me to be laboring under psychological strain after her "jump on the table" UCLA moment......Not hard for me to imagine the team's focus shifting to next season somewhere in there. And even us fans were guilty of "last time we're playing one of the T10 traitors" talk in their second go-around......Also, TvO graduated and may have tired of being the face of the program, started realizing while "built not bought" had a purity to it, the witticism "money can't buy you happiness, but it can get you pretty darn close" is also bandied about, and she may have found attraction in a new $tart with less "face of the program" burden. I also squint and imagine the women from different teams comparing notes on NIL/PT/coaching/playing styles at the tournament - there were several monied, storied programs in attendance....While conference affiliation might have been the only team meeting agenda item, there also may have been a cascade effect with entirely different motives at work: TvO leaving for love, Timea leaving to start, Beers leaving because she saw how Clark was monetizing greatness, Dono leaving because her assist gravy train was departing, Adlee leaving for more PT, Lily leaving because she wants to be closer to home, Marta leaving because Adlee's quest for more PT resonated with her, Dom leaving because all her friends were leaving.......all of this is mere speculation, and it doesn't matter. They're gone, by choice, as is their right. And the best thing about all of this? I actually had to go visit the OSU WBB roster page to recall all of the Elite 8 runaways' names (surprised even myself!). I'll be cheering for whomever takes to the Gill floor come November, wearing Orange and Black, representing my school, but likely from a bit of a distance compared to these last several years.....since now I've learned I'm one supposed team meeting away from having to reset on the players I'm cheering for..... Go (2024-2025 season) Beavers! I know we will probably never know what went on in this" team meeting", so be it. However, I can't help but think it would be helpful to everyone involved, coaches, fans, school, if one of the players would actually talk about it. They bailed and left the few crumbs for the remaining players, friends, and coaches to pick up and TRY to construct an actual team, once again. They were all fully aware of the terrible position they left their "friends and teammates" in to take the brunt of the pain, and yes, clearly did not care! I know the questions will linger, and likely die without explanation, but, if there is no explanation how can anyone understand and address a possible solution? Hope is eternal someone once said. I wish Hope was a 5* transfer. |
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 15, 2024 10:41:57 GMT -8
The OSU women's bball FB page ROASTED Burk over his comments. Waaaay over the top. Like pitchforks and nooses.....calling for his job! Crazy. I thought Burks questions/comments were appropriate. He showed no "hate". He simply expressed what the rest of us who are invested in OSU, and the women's B ball program were thinking. Its interesting that Burk gets roasted, yet Syd Weise doesn't. Syd actually called them out. I think it's a slap in the face to Beaver Nation for the narrative to be "show nothing but support, and love for these student athletes, while they put our program in the dumpster.". It's not fair to the program and those who support it. Sort of expected... first it is FB. Second, I can imagine that those running that page are... Yeah... it figures and you're correct on every count. |
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 15, 2024 10:44:59 GMT -8
I know we will probably never know what went on in this" team meeting", so be it. However, I can't help but think it would be helpful to everyone involved, coaches, fans, school, if one of the players would actually talk about it. They bailed and left the few crumbs for the remaining players, friends, and coaches to pick up and TRY to construct an actual team, once again. They were all fully aware of the terrible position they left their "friends and teammates" in to take the brunt of the pain, and yes, clearly did not care! I know the questions will linger, and likely die without explanation, but, if there is no explanation how can anyone understand and address a possible solution? Hope is eternal someone once said. I wish Hope was a 5* transfer. Screw the 5* kids... most have not worked out very well for a little workman-like university. Lets have Hope and her friends be a bunch of over achieving, coachable 3*/4* kids. |
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Apr 15, 2024 10:53:42 GMT -8
In all fairness, it is a multi-hour plane ride back to CVO from Albany (NY). And did the team stay overnight in Albany after their SC game? Maybe meetings occurred then......That said, I noticed TvO appeared to me to be laboring under psychological strain after her "jump on the table" UCLA moment......Not hard for me to imagine the team's focus shifting to next season somewhere in there. And even us fans were guilty of "last time we're playing one of the T10 traitors" talk in their second go-around......Also, TvO graduated and may have tired of being the face of the program, started realizing while "built not bought" had a purity to it, the witticism "money can't buy you happiness, but it can get you pretty darn close" is also bandied about, and she may have found attraction in a new $tart with less "face of the program" burden. I also squint and imagine the women from different teams comparing notes on NIL/PT/coaching/playing styles at the tournament - there were several monied, storied programs in attendance....While conference affiliation might have been the only team meeting agenda item, there also may have been a cascade effect with entirely different motives at work: TvO leaving for love, Timea leaving to start, Beers leaving because she saw how Clark was monetizing greatness, Dono leaving because her assist gravy train was departing, Adlee leaving for more PT, Lily leaving because she wants to be closer to home, Marta leaving because Adlee's quest for more PT resonated with her, Dom leaving because all her friends were leaving.......all of this is mere speculation, and it doesn't matter. They're gone, by choice, as is their right. And the best thing about all of this? I actually had to go visit the OSU WBB roster page to recall all of the Elite 8 runaways' names (surprised even myself!). I'll be cheering for whomever takes to the Gill floor come November, wearing Orange and Black, representing my school, but likely from a bit of a distance compared to these last several years.....since now I've learned I'm one supposed team meeting away from having to reset on the players I'm cheering for..... Go (2024-2025 season) Beavers! I know we will probably never know what went on in this" team meeting", so be it. However, I can't help but think it would be helpful to everyone involved, coaches, fans, school, if one of the players would actually talk about it. They bailed and left the few crumbs for the remaining players, friends, and coaches to pick up and TRY to construct an actual team, once again. They were all fully aware of the terrible position they left their "friends and teammates" in to take the brunt of the pain, and yes, clearly did not care! I know the questions will linger, and likely die without explanation, but, if there is no explanation how can anyone understand and address a possible solution? Hope is eternal someone once said. I think the Elite 8 Run(aways) are looking forward, and have no time for looking in the rearview mirror or consider the aftermath of their team meeting. The face of the program/team leader was last seen berating the Twitter-sphere for all the "hate" community members like (the now apologetic) Rick Burk dished out for their very gut-wrenching, personal decision. The late, great Kenny Rogers once sang "you gotta know when to hold them, know when to fold them, know when to walk away, know when to run"......I think those players have folded them, walked away, maybe run. So be it. "There will be time enough for counting when the dealing is done...." To get closure, I went back over the weekend and re-watched the second and third quarter of the Utah@Gill game. That whole week was one of amazing memories for OSU basketball. I will always cherish the memories of that week, and hope that the departing players will also fondly hang on to those memories as well, because they sure looked like they were enjoying the moment, the game, their teammates, the atmosphere, that crowd...... Coach SR once said that the problem with the end of the season is that for all but one team the season ends with a loss. He is a wise man. Go Beavers! |
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Post by sparty on Apr 15, 2024 11:49:28 GMT -8
I'm not sure I know the definition of "hate" anymore. If someone comes up to me and says, "What do you think of my new purple shirt" and I say "I think you'd look better in blue" or "I don't think purple is your color". Is that "hate" now? Unless is is a Husky visiting, then it is hate. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2024 17:35:13 GMT -8
I thought Burk was fishing for a story and stumbled into big. That "players meeting to discuss portal" is the stuff movies are made out of. I wait to a long read or movie call "The Dirty 8" How an "8 Player from an Elite 8 Team Betray their coach, fans, School, and selves."
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