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Post by beavaristotle on Apr 3, 2024 8:18:09 GMT -8
forget the WCC, we will need to get into the NWAC with Linn Benton Community College
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Post by beaverbeliever on Apr 3, 2024 8:18:21 GMT -8
Tyler's gone too. Going to be rough next year.
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Post by speakthetruth on Apr 3, 2024 8:39:50 GMT -8
Can't tinkle hit the portal like go home and don't come back. The excuses next year will be unlimited.
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Post by ftd on Apr 3, 2024 8:40:40 GMT -8
Tinkle spotted at Dixon....recruiting..
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Post by speakthetruth on Apr 3, 2024 8:42:22 GMT -8
Tinkle spotted at Dixon....recruiting.. Well David Lucas was noticed there. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Apr 3, 2024 8:46:28 GMT -8
It’s ok! Wilky will be here soon to share with us why this actually means nothing.  |
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Post by ag87 on Apr 3, 2024 8:56:54 GMT -8
I'll get a ball and start practicing. I'm 60 and have not played in a pick-up game since about 1995. At my peak, I may have been able to ride the bench on a high school team.
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Post by beaverinohio on Apr 3, 2024 9:21:55 GMT -8
Sure this isn’t ideal, but you have to look on the bright side of things.
1. If you do choose, you can still follow these players’ careers and they’ll likely be on better teams to follow.
2. The Tinkle apologists don’t have to think up new excuses for next year. They can just recycle the ones they’ve been using for last 3 years.
3. And the most important one, theseplayer losses don’t matter cuz we still have the greatest coach Beavers have had for 35 years.
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Post by Judge Smails on Apr 3, 2024 9:26:19 GMT -8
Sure this isn’t ideal, but you have to look on the bright side of things. 1. If you do choose, you can still follow these players’ careers and they’ll likely be on better teams to follow. 2. The Tinkle apologists don’t have to think up new excuses for next year. They can just recycle the ones they’ve been using for last 3 years. 3. And the most important one, theseplayer losses don’t matter cuz we still have the greatest coach Beavers have had for 35 years. We'll see if we can catch Louisville in the portal. Every single one of their scholarship players is in the portal. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Apr 3, 2024 10:04:11 GMT -8
This is the one that bums me the most. I pretty much expected Pope to be gone, was hoping to keep both of them but I think Tyler will be the hardest to "replace". Michael will probably be gone too, oh well. The only one that will bum me more is if Lake portals, I think if he stays he will out-stat Pope's stats in every category but scoring and shooting percentages (and those may be very close). I also will be bummed if Ndong transfers, lots of potential there as a replacement for either Tyler or Michael's spot. If Lake and Ndong jump in, I wouldn't be surprised to see a change in head coaches.
Tinkle has his work cut out for him in the off season. Going to the WCC may or may not be part of the exodus. WSU is down to 4 scholarship players left at this point, probably a combination of Smith leaving and the change in leagues. Ugly timing all around for OSU and WSU.
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 3, 2024 10:06:38 GMT -8
Yeah I believe I've made that same point about my $ and others in my group of friends. If course I was told it was just the opposite... that $ should go to the NIL. So you’re saying NIL has nothing to do with Pope’s decision? Did you read the basis of both posts? If JC is correct on his radio show that Pope thinks he's getting mid-6 figures... he's getting crap advice! Not one school collective gives out 6 figure deals. I've pasted numerous articles to refute that. Including from Nevada on the BS Lucas received $100k. 6 figure deals are corporate. Pope is not a national name, he's not even regional. Except to those who closely follow west coast hoops and insiders... coaches/recruiters... Pope is a role filler. He's not a number 1 option at any elite school. NIL BS about supposed #s hopefully will die down some with the new procedures on direct contact. No more lies about what was offered to hope for more. No more BS from collectives to get a kid to sign then the kid never gets what was offered. But, if you mean Pope might get more than OSU can give... yep, NIL will be involved. However, that doesn't change the OP and my posts. Let's say OSU has a couple large collectives and our $n went to that. Leia say Pope received mid-5 figures because we gave and could afford it. Pope could still enter and seek more. I and many others aren't playing that game with any athlete. An athlete that isn't tied to the school or staff, but to $$. They are temporary fixtures. Let 'em go. Plus, anyone that thinks OSU is EVER, EVER going to br able to have NIL collectives to get/keep, and repeating that, 5 figure players is off their rocker. OSU is not and never will be a major elite P5 type school. The sooner some come to grips with that the less strife and stress some will have. OSU can be highly successful in their own niche and way. But, keeping up with the "Joneses" isn't possible in today's climate. |
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 3, 2024 10:14:07 GMT -8
Sure this isn’t ideal, but you have to look on the bright side of things. 1. If you do choose, you can still follow these players’ careers and they’ll likely be on better teams to follow. 2. The Tinkle apologists don’t have to think up new excuses for next year. They can just recycle the ones they’ve been using for last 3 years. 3. And the most important one, theseplayer losses don’t matter cuz we still have the greatest coach Beavers have had for 35 years. Plus he's "rebuilt" before! |
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Post by speakthetruth on Apr 3, 2024 10:15:09 GMT -8
Remember when the excuse was well its hard to recruit when you have tres and the Thompson Brothers on the team. It wasn't them that was the problem.
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 3, 2024 10:15:34 GMT -8
Sure this isn’t ideal, but you have to look on the bright side of things. 1. If you do choose, you can still follow these players’ careers and they’ll likely be on better teams to follow. 2. The Tinkle apologists don’t have to think up new excuses for next year. They can just recycle the ones they’ve been using for last 3 years. 3. And the most important one, theseplayer losses don’t matter cuz we still have the greatest coach Beavers have had for 35 years. We'll see if we can catch Louisville in the portal. Every single one of their scholarship players is in the portal. Without knowing one tiny bit about their roster... I'll trade straight across. Then hire the coach that comes/came in 2nd for their job. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Apr 3, 2024 10:43:26 GMT -8
So you’re saying NIL has nothing to do with Pope’s decision? Did you read the basis of both posts? If JC is correct on his radio show that Pope thinks he's getting mid-6 figures... he's getting crap advice! Not one school collective gives out 6 figure deals. I've pasted numerous articles to refute that. Including from Nevada on the BS Lucas received $100k. 6 figure deals are corporate. Pope is not a national name, he's not even regional. Except to those who closely follow west coast hoops and insiders... coaches/recruiters... Pope is a role filler. He's not a number 1 option at any elite school. NIL BS about supposed #s hopefully will die down some with the new procedures on direct contact. No more lies about what was offered to hope for more. No more BS from collectives to get a kid to sign then the kid never gets what was offered. But, if you mean Pope might get more than OSU can give... yep, NIL will be involved. However, that doesn't change the OP and my posts. Let's say OSU has a couple large collectives and our $n went to that. Leia say Pope received mid-5 figures because we gave and could afford it. Pope could still enter and seek more. I and many others aren't playing that game with any athlete. An athlete that isn't tied to the school or staff, but to $$. They are temporary fixtures. Let 'em go. Plus, anyone that thinks OSU is EVER, EVER going to br able to have NIL collectives to get/keep, and repeating that, 5 figure players is off their rocker. OSU is not and never will be a major elite P5 type school. The sooner some come to grips with that the less strife and stress some will have. OSU can be highly successful in their own niche and way. But, keeping up with the "Joneses" isn't possible in today's climate. I don't think OSU's NIL collectives should pay top dollar for anyone. Never have. I do think they should make an attempt to make the kids think the NIL groups are interested in them remaining on the squad. I'm not talking top dollar, probably not even close to the higher end. Just a realistic yet affordable "something" to show the kids they are "wanted". I real life, a bit of a raise often locks a lot of people into keeping jobs even if they can move elsewhere for more. I've no idea if our kids are getting NIL or how much NIL they're getting, but it's obvious that other schools are offering more. Do I think OSU should ever match offers, probably not. Do I think the school should offer a little bit of a bump to keep a couple of their best players, probably so. It all goes back to OSU's history of lowballing support in a few of their sports programs. Most people realized football had a lower budget than it's competition, several continually deny that is the case in basketball. When I see articles on P6 basketball recruiting budgets and see OSU at or near the bottom, it flies in the face of what some people's expectations are. OSU hasn't been competitive on basketball spending (aside from recent HC salary bumps) since big money came into play. Back in Ralph Miller's day, OSU was actually competitive with all but the top schools in the Pac8/10 when it came to basketball support budgets, but it's been years since that's been the case, and every year adds up. Realignment and the move "down" to the WCC only compounds things. Difficult times for the moment. |
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