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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 21, 2024 19:49:45 GMT -8
Where did you come up with that? $2.7 million for this year is correct. His salary is paid from different sources. Yes, but he’s still owed that per year, which is a big hit considering our situation. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 21, 2024 19:52:00 GMT -8
His salary is paid from different sources. Yes, but he’s still owed that per year, which is a big hit considering our situation. Yes, just noting that his entire compensation package won't be found under one category on any spreadsheet. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 21, 2024 19:52:57 GMT -8
You never answered who the winning football coach that he hired. Was it Mike Riley as consultant? I love the fact that Smith will always have a less than .500 record, but to try to say that he wasn’t a successful hire is just silly. Beaverfuzz does silly, for sure. He wants to split hairs, that's fine, I'd expect nothing less. In his last three seasons Smith went 7-6, 10-4 and 8-4. That's a winning football coach. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 21, 2024 20:26:43 GMT -8
I love the fact that Smith will always have a less than .500 record, but to try to say that he wasn’t a successful hire is just silly. Beaverfuzz does silly, for sure. He wants to split hairs, that's fine, I'd expect nothing less. In his last three seasons Smith went 7-6, 10-4 and 8-4. That's a winning football coach. But, held to the same standards several posters here use, he had as many losing seasons in six years as Tinkle did in his first nine. |
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 21, 2024 21:42:44 GMT -8
Beaverfuzz does silly, for sure. He wants to split hairs, that's fine, I'd expect nothing less. In his last three seasons Smith went 7-6, 10-4 and 8-4. That's a winning football coach. But, held to the same standards several posters here use, he had as many losing seasons in six years as Tinkle did in his first nine. So you're counting overall of course as it's not true in Pac12 play. Cuz Wayne hasn't had 3 winning records in conference, you know the wins that truly count. So JS was 50% in that regard. WT, projecting from what I'm seeing thus far, will be at 10%. Plus JS doesn't own multiple seasons ranked worst in program history. And, he has much better winning %. So ya, JS is much better when held to the same standards. But, those on either side of the WT fence don't have to be flipped. |
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Post by zzufrevaeb on Jan 22, 2024 10:36:22 GMT -8
I love the fact that Smith will always have a less than .500 record, but to try to say that he wasn’t a successful hire is just silly. Beaverfuzz does silly, for sure. He wants to split hairs, that's fine, I'd expect nothing less. In his last three seasons Smith went 7-6, 10-4 and 8-4. That's a winning football coach. You're the one splitting hairs, I'm using his entire head football coaching record, that is under .500 |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 22, 2024 11:34:51 GMT -8
Beaverfuzz does silly, for sure. He wants to split hairs, that's fine, I'd expect nothing less. In his last three seasons Smith went 7-6, 10-4 and 8-4. That's a winning football coach. You're the one splitting hairs, I'm using his entire head football coaching record, that is under .500 OK. How about "He hired a head coach who took our football program out of the s%#tter and turned it into a winning program that has 25 victories and three bowl appearances and numerous weeks in the Top 25 over the past three seasons?" But you want to fire the guy. Brilliant. |
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Post by zzufrevaeb on Jan 22, 2024 20:23:36 GMT -8
You're the one splitting hairs, I'm using his entire head football coaching record, that is under .500 OK. How about "He hired a head coach who took our football program out of the s%#tter and turned it into a winning program that has 25 victories and three bowl appearances and numerous weeks in the Top 25 over the past three seasons?" But you want to fire the guy. Brilliant. Again, "a winning program"...almost made it with that one. And yes Barnes should have been out the door years ago, he's ruined not one but two basketball programs in his tenure, but some how he walks on God in the old white guys message board. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 22, 2024 21:06:48 GMT -8
OK. How about "He hired a head coach who took our football program out of the s%#tter and turned it into a winning program that has 25 victories and three bowl appearances and numerous weeks in the Top 25 over the past three seasons?" But you want to fire the guy. Brilliant. Again, "a winning program"...almost made it with that one. And yes Barnes should have been out the door years ago, he's ruined not one but two basketball programs in his tenure, but some how he walks on God in the old white guys message board. So, do we have a winning football program or not? |
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Post by lebaneaver on Jan 22, 2024 21:20:25 GMT -8
OK. How about "He hired a head coach who took our football program out of the s%#tter and turned it into a winning program that has 25 victories and three bowl appearances and numerous weeks in the Top 25 over the past three seasons?" But you want to fire the guy. Brilliant. Again, "a winning program"...almost made it with that one. And yes Barnes should have been out the door years ago, he's ruined not one but two basketball programs in his tenure, but some how he walks on God in the old white guys message board. Then, I've gotta ask; what's an old woman doing on this board? |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 22, 2024 21:32:13 GMT -8
OK. How about "He hired a head coach who took our football program out of the s%#tter and turned it into a winning program that has 25 victories and three bowl appearances and numerous weeks in the Top 25 over the past three seasons?" But you want to fire the guy. Brilliant. Again, "a winning program"...almost made it with that one. And yes Barnes should have been out the door years ago, he's ruined not one but two basketball programs in his tenure, but some how he walks on God in the old white guys message board. Barnes walks on God? Like is God asphalt or what? |
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Post by irimi on Jan 22, 2024 21:45:46 GMT -8
I googled Oregon State University salaries. It's under unclassified employee list. It lists Rueck making a base of over $811,000. I think it is all base salaries for coaches We’re not talking about Rueck. And no, that is not the base salary for all coaches. You think our rowing coach makes $811K? WT is making $2.7 million this year. If WT is making 2.7 million, the rowing coach ought to be making at least 811k. |
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Post by irimi on Jan 22, 2024 21:57:12 GMT -8
You guys are crazy comparing Smith and Tinkle. Every one of Smith’s losing seasons was a step forward. We all saw it; we all knew it. The culture of the team had changed. The players played until the final whistle and never gave up.
I can’t say the same about Tinkle’s teams. If they would consistently play their hearts out, I’d watch.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 22, 2024 22:19:05 GMT -8
You guys are crazy comparing Smith and Tinkle. Every one of Smith’s losing seasons was a step forward. We all saw it; we all knew it. The culture of the team had changed. The players played until the final whistle and never gave up. I can’t say the same about Tinkle’s teams. If they would consistently play their hearts out, I’d watch. Seemed to be a bit of a digression over the past season for Smitty. And then, you know, the whole "Et tu, Brute?" stab to the groin finish to the whole thing leaves a bad taste in your mouth. I would rather watch nine more 2022-23-style basketball seasons than see anything like I saw from the pit viper that formerly ran the football team. Comparing Smitty to Tinkle irks me to no end. One guy was beloved here and then shot us all in the back. And the other is not from here and reviled by many but seems to be a great ambassador of Oregon State, a good guy, and a great developer of men. No comparison. |
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Post by rgeorge on Jan 22, 2024 22:32:38 GMT -8
You guys are crazy comparing Smith and Tinkle. Every one of Smith’s losing seasons was a step forward. We all saw it; we all knew it. The culture of the team had changed. The players played until the final whistle and never gave up. I can’t say the same about Tinkle’s teams. If they would consistently play their hearts out, I’d watch. Seemed to be a bit of a digression over the past season for Smitty. And then, you know, the whole "Et tu, Brute?" stab to the groin finish to the whole thing leaves a bad taste in your mouth. I would rather watch nine more 2022-23-style basketball seasons than see anything like I saw from the pit viper that formerly ran the football team. Comparing Smitty to Tinkle irks me to no end. One guy was beloved here and then shot us all in the back. And the other is not from here and reviled by many but seems to be a great ambassador of Oregon State, a good guy, and a great developer of men. No comparison. I'll disagree with "reviled". That's simply not true. I've never seen one post that mentioned WT as a bad person, or poor representative of the university. He's just not developed a good program. There are plenty of good people who are bad coaches. And, good coaches that are bad people. Just as all walks of life. WT has been the former at OSU. And, the extension wasn't his doing. What? He's going to turn it down? I'll go further. It wasn't even a bad hire unless you're a 20/20 hindsight type. Hiring isn't an exact science. But, 9+ seasons is enough to give a quality man an opportunity to build a consistent program. |
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