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Post by grayman on Sept 8, 2023 12:57:34 GMT -8
(no matter what happens with the legal action) about continuing the Civil War?
Or having to do with any of these schools moving forward?
Personally, I'm not sure Utah has any ill wishes toward OSU and WSU. Maybe there's another school (or two). that is similar in that respect.
But the outcome here has a major bearing on the future of OSU's athletics and most of the defectors couldn't care less.
I would say at the very least all ties should be cut with the Big Ten defectors unless it's to play in a bowl game or NCAA tournament.
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Post by irimi on Sept 8, 2023 13:02:11 GMT -8
Nothing but bad blood now.
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Post by beaverdude on Sept 8, 2023 13:28:12 GMT -8
Was FTd
Now FOd!
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Post by grayman on Sept 8, 2023 14:05:31 GMT -8
I also wonder about fan interaction at some of the games.
You never want things to get out of control between fan bases but especially in the Civil War there's already a built-in intensity level.
You add the current situation and maybe a scenario where both teams are playing for pretty big stakes and that's going to be a tinderbox for the fans, who might also have been enjoying some adult beverages.
A celebration of a victory by one group of fans might be too much to handle for some. Probably would be best for everyone to head home as soon as possible.
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Post by bvrblvr on Sept 8, 2023 14:22:14 GMT -8
I've wondered the same thing myself about fan reactions/interactions. I have a life long friend who's a UW alum that is planning on attending the game at Reser in November. He's just as upset as me at the breakup of the Pac-12. He didn't have any say in it. But he's not going to just quit being a Husky fan, he still roots for his team. If this gets uglier I'm wondering if I just tell him to not come - to avoid any potential embarrassing incident.
This is all so disappointing.
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Post by beavheart on Sept 8, 2023 14:29:36 GMT -8
I don't personally have any hard feelings toward the Big12 defectors. They were just reacting, and scrambling when given the opportunity.
Everyone else can BURN!!! From Fox to CalFurd they are all complicit.
Hole is dead to me. Their front running, Paris Hilton wet dream is fully realized.
To take an open nut shot at OSU, and then pretend like nothing major happened and we're all going to just carry on in some charade of collegial competition insults ever fiber of my being. Soooo very duck like. They are Judas and the Kardashians all rolled up in one big green cheating, backstabbing, fake azz f#cktard. Good riddance, don't need ya.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Sept 8, 2023 14:57:42 GMT -8
I'm looking forward to seeing the future mid tier competition in the BIG10 and ACC get hopelessly rooted in mediocracy for decades.
By watch I mean check box scores.
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Post by bvrbooster on Sept 8, 2023 15:41:23 GMT -8
I believe at some point, years down the road, there will be an attempt to revive the Civil War, but right now it needs to go away. Most Beaver fans probably feel the same way about Oregon as a woman would feel about her (former) best friend after she learned her husband has been having an affair with her for the last 6 months.
I hope at some point, when asked about scheduling them next year or in future years, Scott Barnes will reply, "Not no, but Hell no!"
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 8, 2023 16:01:42 GMT -8
(no matter what happens with the legal action) about continuing the Civil War? Or having to do with any of these schools moving forward? Personally, I'm not sure Utah has any ill wishes toward OSU and WSU. Maybe there's another school (or two). that is similar in that respect. But the outcome here has a major bearing on the future of OSU's athletics and most of the defectors couldn't care less. I would say at the very least all ties should be cut with the Big Ten defectors unless it's to play in a bowl game or NCAA tournament. Oregon State makes millions each year, if they keep the Civil War going, even without a media contract. Someone would probably buy that game for at least four million, assuming both teams aren't just straight-up awful. When the Pacific Coast Conference fell apart in 1959, Oregon State kept scheduling the AAWU teams until they were invited back in. They played Stanford and Washington, home and home every year until Oregon State got the invite to rejoin in 1964. And they played Wazzu every year from 1959 to 1963, as well, even after Wazzu beat Oregon State back into the AAWU. Can you f#*king imagine what would have happened, if a bunch of arrogant a##holes back then had torpedoed any efforts to get back into the AAWU. Diplomacy kids. You beat 'em on the field. They schedule someone else and that team makes millions and laughs and laughs and laughs at Oregon State's pride. If you shut out the defectors, you only hurt yourself. You could probably schedule six of the former Pac-12 teams for each of the next two years, if we want to. Then, hopefully, only four more years with a former Pac-12-heavy nonconference schedule before the inevitable invite comes for Oregon State to join back up with one or more of the Pac-12 teams. That is, unless we seclude ourselves in a little mini-tantrum that absolutely no one notices, as everyone else moves to fill the vacuum that we stupidly created. |
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Post by grayman on Sept 8, 2023 16:40:52 GMT -8
(no matter what happens with the legal action) about continuing the Civil War? Or having to do with any of these schools moving forward? Personally, I'm not sure Utah has any ill wishes toward OSU and WSU. Maybe there's another school (or two). that is similar in that respect. But the outcome here has a major bearing on the future of OSU's athletics and most of the defectors couldn't care less. I would say at the very least all ties should be cut with the Big Ten defectors unless it's to play in a bowl game or NCAA tournament. Oregon State makes millions each year, if they keep the Civil War going, even without a media contract. Someone would probably buy that game for at least four million, assuming both teams aren't just straight-up awful. When the Pacific Coast Conference fell apart in 1959, Oregon State kept scheduling the AAWU teams until they were invited back in. They played Stanford and Washington, home and home every year until Oregon State got the invite to rejoin in 1964. And they played Wazzu every year from 1959 to 1963, as well, even after Wazzu beat Oregon State back into the AAWU. Can you f#*king imagine what would have happened, if a bunch of arrogant a##holes back then had torpedoed any efforts to get back into the AAWU. Diplomacy kids. You beat 'em on the field. They schedule someone else and that team makes millions and laughs and laughs and laughs at Oregon State's pride. If you shut out the defectors, you only hurt yourself. You could probably schedule six of the former Pac-12 teams for each of the next two years, if we want to. Then, hopefully, only four more years with a former Pac-12-heavy nonconference schedule before the inevitable invite comes for Oregon State to join back up with one or more of the Pac-12 teams. That is, unless we seclude ourselves in a little mini-tantrum that absolutely no one notices, as everyone else moves to fill the vacuum that we stupidly created. I would say in this case it's more about the principle of it all. There are plenty of "big time" programs OSU can schedule if it so chooses. So money really isn't the issue, even if someone did offer a few million to keep it going. Diplomacy? OSU would be Neville Chamberlain. No tantrums. Just moving on to a new era. |
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Post by irimi on Sept 8, 2023 16:50:09 GMT -8
Oregon State makes millions each year, if they keep the Civil War going, even without a media contract. Someone would probably buy that game for at least four million, assuming both teams aren't just straight-up awful. When the Pacific Coast Conference fell apart in 1959, Oregon State kept scheduling the AAWU teams until they were invited back in. They played Stanford and Washington, home and home every year until Oregon State got the invite to rejoin in 1964. And they played Wazzu every year from 1959 to 1963, as well, even after Wazzu beat Oregon State back into the AAWU. Can you f#*king imagine what would have happened, if a bunch of arrogant a##holes back then had torpedoed any efforts to get back into the AAWU. Diplomacy kids. You beat 'em on the field. They schedule someone else and that team makes millions and laughs and laughs and laughs at Oregon State's pride. If you shut out the defectors, you only hurt yourself. You could probably schedule six of the former Pac-12 teams for each of the next two years, if we want to. Then, hopefully, only four more years with a former Pac-12-heavy nonconference schedule before the inevitable invite comes for Oregon State to join back up with one or more of the Pac-12 teams. That is, unless we seclude ourselves in a little mini-tantrum that absolutely no one notices, as everyone else moves to fill the vacuum that we stupidly created. I would say in this case it's more about the principle of it all. There are plenty of "big time" programs OSU can schedule if it so chooses. So money really isn't the issue, even if someone did offer a few million to keep it going. Diplomacy? OSU would be Neville Chamberlain. No tantrums. Just moving on to a new era.Depending on what that new era looks like, I agree 100%. If somehow we lose the court battle and lose the Pac and are forced to join the MW, I would be very bitter but could see how it might be beneficial. OTOH, get the money, rebuild the Pac, invite any team to play as an noncon game, EXCEPT former Pac teams. I’d rather play Portland State twice. |
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Post by bucktoothvarmit on Sept 8, 2023 16:51:22 GMT -8
I also wonder about fan interaction at some of the games. You never want things to get out of control between fan bases but especially in the Civil War there's already a built-in intensity level. You add the current situation and maybe a scenario where both teams are playing for pretty big stakes and that's going to be a tinderbox for the fans, who might also have been enjoying some adult beverages. A celebration of a victory by one group of fans might be too much to handle for some. Probably would be best for everyone to head home as soon as possible. I'm afraid it may be a full time job keeping Mrs. Varmit under control this season. Probably best the CW is at the landfill....... |
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Post by grayman on Sept 8, 2023 16:54:03 GMT -8
I would say in this case it's more about the principle of it all. There are plenty of "big time" programs OSU can schedule if it so chooses. So money really isn't the issue, even if someone did offer a few million to keep it going. Diplomacy? OSU would be Neville Chamberlain. No tantrums. Just moving on to a new era.Depending on what that new era looks like, I agree 100%. If somehow we lose the court battle and lose the Pac and are forced to join the MW, I would be very bitter but could see how it might be beneficial. OTOH, get the money, rebuild the Pac, invite any team to play as an noncon game, EXCEPT former Pac teams. I’d rather play Portland State twice. Yeah, I could see OSU viewing it as beneficial in that situation. Good payday, no real travel. Probably add UW as well. |
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Post by Dave86 on Sept 8, 2023 20:31:03 GMT -8
(no matter what happens with the legal action) about continuing the Civil War? When it came out that Oregon was headed to the B1G, they publicly stated that they wanted to continue the Civil War series. The probably want to continue because: 1 - Duck fans like the Civil War 2 - The game gives Oregon good recruiting exposure in the state of Oregon My thought is that if we need to continue the Civil War for the next 2 or 3 seasons to have a quality football schedule, then we should do so. However, after that time, it would not break my heart to discontinue the Civil War. My favorite PAC-12 games were always, in order, against USC, UCLA, and UW. Nothing made me happier than to see the Beavers come up a win against those schools. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 8, 2023 20:39:27 GMT -8
(no matter what happens with the legal action) about continuing the Civil War? When it came out that Oregon was headed to the B1G, they publicly stated that they wanted to continue the Civil War series. The probably want to continue because: 1 - Duck fans like the Civil War 2 - The game gives Oregon good recruiting exposure in the state of Oregon My thought is that if we need to continue the Civil War for the next 2 or 3 seasons to have a quality football schedule, then we should do so. However, after that time, it would not break my heart to discontinue the Civil War. My favorite PAC-12 games were always, in order, against USC, UCLA, and UW. Nothing made me happier than to see the Beavers come up a win against those schools. Good recruiting exposure in the state of Oregon? They rarely recruit anyone in the state. And they don’t need to play us to go after the occasional 4 star that does come through the state. |
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