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Post by beaverdude on Sept 1, 2023 10:27:42 GMT -8
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Sept 1, 2023 11:16:24 GMT -8
I'd question a 10 game league schedule, feels like it'd handicap the conference considering all the conferences that play 9 and even 8 league games. Just having a 9 game league schedule kinda handicapped the Pac 12 at times. I'm not even sure it'd guarantee 6 home games. With 10 league games I'd think there'd be 5 at home, 5 away for league games, then you'd only have 2 OOC games a year. If playing the ducks were an annual event there would only be 1 other OOC game and it would have to be in Reser to get 6 or 7 home games. Am I thinking incorrectly here? For some strange reason, the 12-team MWC only plays an 8-game league schedule. Makes no sense. They all have to scramble for four OOC opponents. Playing 10 league games cuts your scheduling problems in half. 10-game PacMount schedule, 5 home, 5 away every year. Even years: Oregon at home (6), possibly a Big Sky/MAC school (7). Odd years: Oregon on the road, possibly a Big Sky or MAC school for our sixth home game. We can't survive with five home games. Iowa and Iowa State play each other on Week 1 or Week 2. They seem to have no problem with it, and the weather is better than the last weekend of November. Yes, the revenue factor does matter as a reason for playing the Ducks. A much. much bigger factor is, I'd rather see an OSU-UO game, in any sport, than any other opponent we could find to take their place. My thinking is that the athletic department is going to want a high payout road game once a year for both money and to show bowl committees OSU is competitive against "name" schools. Going with 9 league games allows for that and a Big Sky type opponent each year. Like it or not, playing uo annually probably doesn't move the needle as much on its own as adding another high profile game over an additionalgame on top of that game does. I could easily see 9 league games, 1 Big Sky type game, uo, and 1 more high profile game... Since OSU and WSU are basically driving this rebuilt league they could probably manage to swing getting the benefit of the 5th home game in a 9 game league schedule more often than not, might have to work it into the conference contract. If we don't play uo, we could pretty much guarantee swinging 6-7 home games a year. |
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Post by blove on Sept 1, 2023 11:33:04 GMT -8
FTD!
Of course if we're relegated to the MWC for baseball we're going to need all the strong opponents to help build the RPI.
Be interesting to see how the players feel about the schools that bailed. With a majority from outside the state not really sure if they feel as emotional as the fans to be honest.
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Post by p8nted on Sept 1, 2023 11:37:22 GMT -8
I'd question a 10 game league schedule, feels like it'd handicap the conference considering all the conferences that play 9 and even 8 league games. Just having a 9 game league schedule kinda handicapped the Pac 12 at times. I'm not even sure it'd guarantee 6 home games. With 10 league games I'd think there'd be 5 at home, 5 away for league games, then you'd only have 2 OOC games a year. If playing the ducks were an annual event there would only be 1 other OOC game and it would have to be in Reser to get 6 or 7 home games. Am I thinking incorrectly here? For some strange reason, the 12-team MWC only plays an 8-game league schedule. Makes no sense. They all have to scramble for four OOC opponents. Playing 10 league games cuts your scheduling problems in half. 10-game PacMount schedule, 5 home, 5 away every year. Even years: Oregon at home (6), possibly a Big Sky/MAC school (7). Odd years: Oregon on the road, possibly a Big Sky or MAC school for our sixth home game. We can't survive with five home games. Iowa and Iowa State play each other on Week 1 or Week 2. They seem to have no problem with it, and the weather is better than the last weekend of November. Yes, the revenue factor does matter as a reason for playing the Ducks. A much. much bigger factor is, I'd rather see an OSU-UO game, in any sport, than any other opponent we could find to take their place. The 8 game conference schedule in the MWC history is a nod to Air Force. They have the Navy/Air Force games in OOC and they have asked for 2 OOC games. Conference agreed to keep them from leaving to the Big East/AAC years ago |
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Post by sessbeav on Sept 1, 2023 12:13:36 GMT -8
Of course, Hole wants to play us. It would mean one fewer flight to the s%#tty midwest. f%#* 'em. Make them fly every weekend. For ALL sports. If they don't play us, they'll just fly in some other team to play that weekend. It will have no impact at all on their travel. They're not going back to Big Ten country for any OOC competition. My guess is, between Arizona, ASU, Stanford, Cal, Utah and Colorado they won't have any problem finding a P5 OOC opponent, in any sport. I totally get the hatred of Oregon. But I really enjoy watching OSU-Oregon games, in any sport, and I'd rather we play them in an OOC baseball series (for example) than CSU Riverside, Northridge or whomever. Not to mention playing us will be a body bag game for them going forward. I am expecting we will end up with an athletic budget of something like 4-6 million assuming something happens with the MW. Whatever $ we might generate from a game with ducks isn't going to provide any seriously meaningful financial help. We can expect to say goodbye to our coaches and most of our better players after this season, while our recruiting ability will plummet. I'm not trying to be doom and gloom - I am ever hopeful - but sadly this is the reality we are faced with. I will root for the Beavs and support them as always, no matter where they land - but I think we need some hard truth. I would be thrilled to have someone talk me off the ledge. I am gutted and heartbroken over this. After this season the only college football I will care about it the Beavs and whatever conference they land in. I plan to enjoy it one last time in the big show! |
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Post by rgeorge on Sept 1, 2023 12:15:47 GMT -8
Lol... Osu is going to go from $83+ mil to $4-6 mil??
Really...
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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 1, 2023 12:26:40 GMT -8
Lol... Osu is going to go from $83+ mil to $4-6 mil?? Really... It’s actually $95 million for this year. |
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Post by irimi on Sept 1, 2023 12:30:19 GMT -8
If they don't play us, they'll just fly in some other team to play that weekend. It will have no impact at all on their travel. They're not going back to Big Ten country for any OOC competition. My guess is, between Arizona, ASU, Stanford, Cal, Utah and Colorado they won't have any problem finding a P5 OOC opponent, in any sport. I totally get the hatred of Oregon. But I really enjoy watching OSU-Oregon games, in any sport, and I'd rather we play them in an OOC baseball series (for example) than CSU Riverside, Northridge or whomever. Not to mention playing us will be a body bag game for them going forward. I am expecting we will end up with an athletic budget of something like 4-6 million assuming something happens with the MW. Whatever $ we might generate from a game with ducks isn't going to provide any seriously meaningful financial help. We can expect to say goodbye to our coaches and most of our better players after this season, while our recruiting ability will plummet. I'm not trying to be doom and gloom - I am ever hopeful - but sadly this is the reality we are faced with. I will root for the Beavs and support them as always, no matter where they land - but I think we need some hard truth. I would be thrilled to have someone talk me off the ledge. I am gutted and heartbroken over this. After this season the only college football I will care about it the Beavs and whatever conference they land in. I plan to enjoy it one last time in the big show! Well, to help you back away from the ledge, let me remind you that this is really just a big experiment. And there are still more realignment moves coming in the future. I still have my heart set on an innovative response by the Beavs and the Cougs, something that has potential of growth and development. I think it could also be useful for the Beavs to do nothing and let the season decide for them. If they perform well, maybe the B1G finds a spot for us. Still a lot of ways forward. But RIP NCAA football. They ought to just call it ESPN/Fox Football. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 1, 2023 12:34:20 GMT -8
If they don't play us, they'll just fly in some other team to play that weekend. It will have no impact at all on their travel. They're not going back to Big Ten country for any OOC competition. My guess is, between Arizona, ASU, Stanford, Cal, Utah and Colorado they won't have any problem finding a P5 OOC opponent, in any sport. I totally get the hatred of Oregon. But I really enjoy watching OSU-Oregon games, in any sport, and I'd rather we play them in an OOC baseball series (for example) than CSU Riverside, Northridge or whomever. Not to mention playing us will be a body bag game for them going forward. I am expecting we will end up with an athletic budget of something like 4-6 million assuming something happens with the MW. Whatever $ we might generate from a game with ducks isn't going to provide any seriously meaningful financial help. We can expect to say goodbye to our coaches and most of our better players after this season, while our recruiting ability will plummet. I'm not trying to be doom and gloom - I am ever hopeful - but sadly this is the reality we are faced with. I will root for the Beavs and support them as always, no matter where they land - but I think we need some hard truth. I would be thrilled to have someone talk me off the ledge. I am gutted and heartbroken over this. After this season the only college football I will care about it the Beavs and whatever conference they land in. I plan to enjoy it one last time in the big show! Hasn’t that game been a body bag game for the last 20 years? We’ve been operating at a multi million dollar deficit to the ucks forever as far as AD budgets. In addition, they’ve had $$ to burn for the finest facilities. I guess we should have never beat them during that period. |
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Post by grayman on Sept 1, 2023 12:34:43 GMT -8
If OSU were to go to the Big 12, then keep playing it if possible.
Otherwise, no way.
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Post by gameday on Sept 1, 2023 13:54:34 GMT -8
Oregon-Oregon State should be last week of the regular season. Army-Navy, Clemson-South Carolina, Florida-Florida State, Georgia-Georgia Tech, and Kentucky-Louisville all do it.
If we're big time, we keep doing it, end of the season like nothing's changed.
Exactly. Yes we’re pissed, and we should be. We don’t have to like it, but money in college football is here to stay.
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Post by rgeorge on Sept 1, 2023 14:00:01 GMT -8
Oregon-Oregon State should be last week of the regular season. Army-Navy, Clemson-South Carolina, Florida-Florida State, Georgia-Georgia Tech, and Kentucky-Louisville all do it. If we're big time, we keep doing it, end of the season like nothing's changed. You're forgetting OSU isn't the deciding factor. Oregon will have a B10 schedule. Game 1 could be conference game for example. Ucks are a "minority" voice in their new home. There is no way the B10 will guarantee them a secure date for a NC game. |
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Post by gameday on Sept 1, 2023 14:13:11 GMT -8
Oregon-Oregon State should be last week of the regular season. Army-Navy, Clemson-South Carolina, Florida-Florida State, Georgia-Georgia Tech, and Kentucky-Louisville all do it. If we're big time, we keep doing it, end of the season like nothing's changed. You're forgetting OSU isn't the deciding factor. Oregon will have a B10 schedule. Game 1 could be conference game for example. Ucks are a "minority" voice in their new home. There is no way the B10 will guarantee them a secure date for a NC game. Right. There’s a lot we don’t know. For the sake of argument, let’s say the opportunity is there, though. I think it benefits us to continue. I realize that’s not a popular opinion. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 1, 2023 14:13:54 GMT -8
Oregon-Oregon State should be last week of the regular season. Army-Navy, Clemson-South Carolina, Florida-Florida State, Georgia-Georgia Tech, and Kentucky-Louisville all do it. If we're big time, we keep doing it, end of the season like nothing's changed. You're forgetting OSU isn't the deciding factor. Oregon will have a B10 schedule. Game 1 could be conference game for example. Ucks are a "minority" voice in their new home. There is no way the B10 will guarantee them a secure date for a NC game. The conferences are required to schedule around nonconference games. That is to say that the conferences only get to schedule on weekends that there are not already nonconference games. |
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Post by rgeorge on Sept 1, 2023 14:29:22 GMT -8
You're forgetting OSU isn't the deciding factor. Oregon will have a B10 schedule. Game 1 could be conference game for example. Ucks are a "minority" voice in their new home. There is no way the B10 will guarantee them a secure date for a NC game. The conferences are required to schedule around nonconference games. That is to say that the conferences only get to schedule on weekends that there are not already nonconference games. In the B10 the Saturday after Thanksgiving is "rivalry weekend". Set rivals all play that weekend. I think there are 4 teams that don't have set "rivals" and swap playing each other. But, it's been a conference game weekend. My guess is UW vs Oregon will be held then. And, I'm 90% sure OSU isn't likely to want to play a NC game in week 10 or 11. |
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