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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 31, 2023 20:50:09 GMT -8
Didn't we just read that the rivalry is uo vs uw? Isn't that why they took both? A rivalry game at the beginning of a season just seems wrong. I can see a rivalry with wsu developing. Sounds like the f**ks are positioning themselves to look better saying they tried but it just couldn't be set up. Or they tried but OSU didn't want to. Oregon-Oregon State should be last week of the regular season. Army-Navy, Clemson-South Carolina, Florida-Florida State, Georgia-Georgia Tech, and Kentucky-Louisville all do it. If we're big time, we keep doing it, end of the season like nothing's changed. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 31, 2023 21:13:17 GMT -8
I don't agree with berating fans of opponents visiting Reser, but anyone who thinks there won't be some added animosity and venom directed towards those teams is completely delusional. This season's conference games are going to be filled with vitriol, and perhaps yes, more cantankerous than usual. And yeah I'll say it.....they should be. The conference f%#*ed us.....Beavs will play with a chip on their shoulders all season long. UCLA....Utah....Washington. You might not like it, but it's gonna be ugly and nasty. I get UCLA and Washington, two of the three biggest architects of secession. Utah, though, only left because Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Oregon, UCLA, USC, and Washington left. And Whittingham is already talking about conferences changing again in a couple of years. When Sherman was terrorizing the South, he told his men to go crazy in South Carolina, the birthplace of secession and where the first shot was fired. However, when he crossed into North Carolina, he told his men to treat North Carolina more leniently. North Carolina was the second-to-last state to leave the Union, only did so after the three of the four states that surrounded it seceded (with Tennessee already with a foot out of the door), and was one of four states that did not reference slavery as a reason to secede. Utah is basically North Carolina. There is no sense antagonizing any of the three, because, hopefully, they work within their new conferences to invite Oregon State later, like Stanford, Washington, and Wazzu did in the AAWU. However, there is really no sense antagonizing Utah, who is not really one of the architects of secession. |
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Post by irimi on Aug 31, 2023 21:27:37 GMT -8
Wow, the hubris the Ducks show. Mullens wants to do everything he can to continue the series?...after he is one of the players that created this mess that we are in. If they really wanted to do that, they should not have duped everyone and said they were in on the GOR, then bailed with UW at the last minute. I for one think we should not play them in any of our sports. They have helped contribute to us being in an untenable situation. Any of the schools that play at Reser that are Pac-12 teams should have beefed up security one would think.
Their fans are not welcome and all pac-12 fans visiting should be berated non stop from the time they set foot in the stadium until they leave. Screw the other 10 pac schools!
As angry as I am about this whole debacle and as much as I dislike Duck fans, they really had no say in the matter. Neither did the players. Just as we and our players have had no say in this matter. Let’s just beat them on the field, where it counts. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 31, 2023 21:45:35 GMT -8
Wow, the hubris the Ducks show. Mullens wants to do everything he can to continue the series?...after he is one of the players that created this mess that we are in. If they really wanted to do that, they should not have duped everyone and said they were in on the GOR, then bailed with UW at the last minute. I for one think we should not play them in any of our sports. They have helped contribute to us being in an untenable situation. Any of the schools that play at Reser that are Pac-12 teams should have beefed up security one would think.
Their fans are not welcome and all pac-12 fans visiting should be berated non stop from the time they set foot in the stadium until they leave. Screw the other 10 pac schools!
Doesn't sound very classy to me. Let's say this thing doesn't resolve for a couple months, and it's still technically a Pac 4 but Stanford an Cal have yet to commit, and OSU is sitting at 8 and 0 and is a top 6-10 ranked team... and suddenly theres a full share offer to jump to one of the Power 4 conferences? Unlikely to happen, but by that point our people could be so frustrated with the 3 schools left that the offer is very attractive. I'm pissed mostly at USC for nixing expansion 2 years ago, somewhat at UCLA for following them, and more pissed at uo and UW for backing out when an agreement was in place. As for the other schools that have left do far, their admin people are cowards and panickers in my opinion. I don't really extend that to their fans in general. The ones who are thrilled, yes, but I'd bet there's a good chunk of fans who are unhappy with conference switches. |
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Post by ee1990 on Aug 31, 2023 23:37:30 GMT -8
Wow, the hubris the Ducks show. Mullens wants to do everything he can to continue the series?...after he is one of the players that created this mess that we are in. If they really wanted to do that, they should not have duped everyone and said they were in on the GOR, then bailed with UW at the last minute. I for one think we should not play them in any of our sports. They have helped contribute to us being in an untenable situation. Brilliant idea. Let us cut our nose off to spite our own face. We've had TWO winning football seasons in 9 years and this is the UO's fault? Mullens probably does want to continue the rivalry after risking it for what might literally amount to hundreds of millions of dollars. BTW, you should probably look up the deficit our AD operates at every_single_year, subsidized by the state of Oregon tax payers. |
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Post by ag87 on Sept 1, 2023 1:07:40 GMT -8
"doing everything we can to try to figure out a way to play." Screw Mullens. He wasn't thinking about that at all when the knife was inserted in the back.
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Post by speakthetruth on Sept 1, 2023 4:53:02 GMT -8
Of course, we should continue to play them. On a home-and-home basis, or it's a deal-breaker. Never make a financial decision based on emotion. OSU-UO games are always the best gates of the year, in any sport, and we will need the revenue. Having them on the home FB schedule sells more season tickets, every other year. Play UO either Week 1 or Week 2. Play another OOC game vs. a Big Sky opponent, then someone else (although I think if we merge with the MWC, they should go to a 10-game league schedule). With a 10-game league schedule when we are guaranteed six home games a year, or seven in the years we host the Ducks. I'd question a 10 game league schedule, feels like it'd handicap the conference considering all the conferences that play 9 and even 8 league games. Just having a 9 game league schedule kinda handicapped the Pac 12 at times. I'm not even sure it'd guarantee 6 home games. With 10 league games I'd think there'd be 5 at home, 5 away for league games, then you'd only have 2 OOC games a year. If playing the ducks were an annual event there would only be 1 other OOC game and it would have to be in Reser to get 6 or 7 home games. Am I thinking incorrectly here? Just wondering what type of opponents would be the OOC games - Portland State and Idaho? Because the regular season games would normally be the nonconference games if we were still in the pac. |
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Post by beaverdude on Sept 1, 2023 6:42:58 GMT -8
If the *ucks want to continue the series they can pay us for the privilege to play in Reser!
We should *never* visit the landfill after this season ends!
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Post by jrbeavo on Sept 1, 2023 6:50:35 GMT -8
Some of you guys are being awfully charitable to a school who made a decision in their self-interest that necessarily crippled us in the process.
Part of the beauty of being a fan is to sometimes lead with your heart and not your head. Life's problems will still be there Monday, but Saturday's are a day for blissful escape...I don't need to view everything through some sort of pragmatic lens. My disgust for Oregon has reached levels I never dreamed possible.
The idea that the net revenue from indulging Oregon and assuaging their (very minimal) guilt will somehow have a department-saving impact is absurd. F em, we can soldier on without their charity
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Post by joecool on Sept 1, 2023 6:53:54 GMT -8
While I don't want to play them, I am fine if its home and home and the next game is at Reser since its our turn to host.
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Post by hometownbeaver on Sept 1, 2023 6:56:05 GMT -8
I find it funny that most folks arguing to continue playing the civil war game only do so because of revenue. The whole reason this mess happened was to maximize revenue. If we're chasing revenue then we're a group of 5 tier program and falling. Keeping up the the Joneses isn't going to work here.
OSU needs to decide what's important to us within what's obtainable. Playing the civil war game would be like hooking up with your crazy ex. While many of us have done it most of us realize it never lead to any long term benefit.
Playing U of O for the money is just like U of O leaving the conference to chase money and clout. It's also likely to end in the same result for both schools a small or large fortune spent with little to no actual benefits in return.
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Post by ftd on Sept 1, 2023 6:57:12 GMT -8
"will be doing everything we can to try to figure out a way to play"
Hey Rob...how about not bailing on the conference? Ya Jackass
Rob - ironic name isn't it?
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 1, 2023 9:10:55 GMT -8
Of course, we should continue to play them. On a home-and-home basis, or it's a deal-breaker. Never make a financial decision based on emotion. OSU-UO games are always the best gates of the year, in any sport, and we will need the revenue. Having them on the home FB schedule sells more season tickets, every other year. Play UO either Week 1 or Week 2. Play another OOC game vs. a Big Sky opponent, then someone else (although I think if we merge with the MWC, they should go to a 10-game league schedule). With a 10-game league schedule when we are guaranteed six home games a year, or seven in the years we host the Ducks. I'd question a 10 game league schedule, feels like it'd handicap the conference considering all the conferences that play 9 and even 8 league games. Just having a 9 game league schedule kinda handicapped the Pac 12 at times. I'm not even sure it'd guarantee 6 home games. With 10 league games I'd think there'd be 5 at home, 5 away for league games, then you'd only have 2 OOC games a year. If playing the ducks were an annual event there would only be 1 other OOC game and it would have to be in Reser to get 6 or 7 home games. Am I thinking incorrectly here? For some strange reason, the 12-team MWC only plays an 8-game league schedule. Makes no sense. They all have to scramble for four OOC opponents. Playing 10 league games cuts your scheduling problems in half. 10-game PacMount schedule, 5 home, 5 away every year. Even years: Oregon at home (6), possibly a Big Sky/MAC school (7). Odd years: Oregon on the road, possibly a Big Sky or MAC school for our sixth home game. We can't survive with five home games. Iowa and Iowa State play each other on Week 1 or Week 2. They seem to have no problem with it, and the weather is better than the last weekend of November. Yes, the revenue factor does matter as a reason for playing the Ducks. A much. much bigger factor is, I'd rather see an OSU-UO game, in any sport, than any other opponent we could find to take their place. |
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Post by irimi on Sept 1, 2023 9:56:23 GMT -8
Of course, Hole wants to play us. It would mean one fewer flight to the s%#tty midwest. f%#* 'em. Make them fly every weekend. For ALL sports.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Sept 1, 2023 10:15:38 GMT -8
Of course, Hole wants to play us. It would mean one fewer flight to the s%#tty midwest. f%#* 'em. Make them fly every weekend. For ALL sports. If they don't play us, they'll just fly in some other team to play that weekend. It will have no impact at all on their travel. They're not going back to Big Ten country for any OOC competition. My guess is, between Arizona, ASU, Stanford, Cal, Utah and Colorado they won't have any problem finding a P5 OOC opponent, in any sport. I totally get the hatred of Oregon. But I really enjoy watching OSU-Oregon games, in any sport, and I'd rather we play them in an OOC baseball series (for example) than CSU Riverside, Northridge or whomever. |
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