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Post by nuclearbeaver on Sept 2, 2023 18:27:32 GMT -8
So if uo played army and won by 74, you’d be questioning their run D when they’d given up 300 yds rushing? The only stat that matters is points. I doubt uo defense was playing very inspired today knowing they were going to kill PSU. Did they put their 3rd stringers in at all. Anyone know if they pulled Nix at all? If they did pull Nix was their backups as effective? yes www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore/_/gameId/401523992 |
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Post by ee1990 on Sept 2, 2023 18:27:43 GMT -8
So if uo played army and won by 74, you’d be questioning their run D when they’d given up 300 yds rushing? The only stat that matters is points. I doubt uo defense was playing very inspired today knowing they were going to kill PSU. Did they put their 3rd stringers in at all. Anyone know if they pulled Nix at all? If they did pull Nix was their backups as effective? It looks like the starters played 1 series in the 2nd half, at least that's when Nix came out. They played 2 other QBs who were 10/11 and they scored 24 points with those QBs. They played 24 true freshmen. Their starting RB had 4 carries, none in the 2nd half. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Sept 2, 2023 18:30:46 GMT -8
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Post by ee1990 on Sept 2, 2023 18:32:07 GMT -8
He's fun to watch but also pretty cringe sometimes. His fumble in the first half was so awful. |
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Post by irimi on Sept 2, 2023 18:50:53 GMT -8
Agree, in principle. But the weakness was exposed in the first quarter against a much weaker team. I'm pretty sure that no one expected PSU to have 100 yards on the ground in the first quarter, especially not the Ducks. The fact that they made adjustments to shut it down means they did what was necessary against a weak team. Ho hum. The fact that the weakness was exposed is interesting to me as it brings up questions. Can they stop a more proficient ground attack? What about a more balanced attack?
It's the weakness that I would look to exploit if I were part of the opposing coaching staff. So if uo played army and won by 74, you’d be questioning their run D when they’d given up 300 yds rushing? The only stat that matters is points. I doubt uo defense was playing very inspired today knowing they were going to kill PSU. So if you are playing the Ducks next week, how do you prepare? |
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Post by Judge Smails on Sept 2, 2023 18:59:08 GMT -8
So if uo played army and won by 74, you’d be questioning their run D when they’d given up 300 yds rushing? The only stat that matters is points. I doubt uo defense was playing very inspired today knowing they were going to kill PSU. So if you are playing the Ducks next week, how do you prepare? You don’t give up 74 points. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Sept 2, 2023 19:07:32 GMT -8
So if uo played army and won by 74, you’d be questioning their run D when they’d given up 300 yds rushing? The only stat that matters is points. I doubt uo defense was playing very inspired today knowing they were going to kill PSU. So if you are playing the Ducks next week, how do you prepare? Look at the tape and apply my system to stop what they were doing with my players. Coaches don't look at stats to design a game plan. They look at analytics of what plays and systems they are using. They may also scheme around star players. They won't see PSU rushes for 100 yards in the first quarter and design the game around running. They look at the defensive scheme and personnel to figure out what may work for their team and build other options in if it doesn't. |
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Post by ee1990 on Sept 2, 2023 19:10:01 GMT -8
So if uo played army and won by 74, you’d be questioning their run D when they’d given up 300 yds rushing? The only stat that matters is points. I doubt uo defense was playing very inspired today knowing they were going to kill PSU. So if you are playing the Ducks next week, how do you prepare? In a way that allows my team to average more than 2.6 yards per pass and score more than 1 time in 13 possessions. |
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Post by ee1990 on Sept 2, 2023 19:16:29 GMT -8
So if you are playing the Ducks next week, how do you prepare? Look at the tape and apply my system to stop what they were doing with my players. Coaches don't look at stats to design a game plan. They look at analytics of what plays and systems they are using. They may also scheme around star players. They won't see PSU rushes for 100 yards in the first quarter and design the game around running. They look at the defensive scheme and personnel to figure out what may work for their team and build other options in if it doesn't. Also, in the modern game, stopping the pass is what matters more unless you're just an absolute door mat against the run. It reminds me of Bill Belichick telling his Lawrence Taylor defense in Super Bowl XXV that they'd win if Thurman Thomas had 100 yards rushing. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Sept 2, 2023 19:17:07 GMT -8
Serious answer though. Against their offense do a deep zone to keep the big plays at a minimum. Blitz heavy calls to get pressure on nix and limit the outside run game. Blitz mostly up the middle or long side of the field and keep the DEs in a shallow contain to keep the play in the pocket. If possible plenty of stunts and twists to confuse their young OLine.
On offense I'm going TE and up the middle run packages to wear them out. Their depth is questionable and their best athletes are on the edges and in coverage. I'd keep it simple until they add guys to the box or creep up then start the ole PA.
Most teams are rebuilt for that offense these days though...but we are.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Sept 2, 2023 19:19:35 GMT -8
Look at the tape and apply my system to stop what they were doing with my players. Coaches don't look at stats to design a game plan. They look at analytics of what plays and systems they are using. They may also scheme around star players. They won't see PSU rushes for 100 yards in the first quarter and design the game around running. They look at the defensive scheme and personnel to figure out what may work for their team and build other options in if it doesn't. Also, in the modern game, stopping the pass is what matters more unless you're just an absolute door mat against the run. It reminds me of Bill Belichick telling his Lawrence Taylor defense in Super Bowl XXV that they'd win if Thurman Thomas had 100 yards rushing. True in the NFL but the mismatches still exist in college for effective run games. It still exists in the NFL too but it's outliers like Henry. The run game is about getting first downs not touchdowns (in the league). |
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Post by irimi on Sept 2, 2023 19:27:06 GMT -8
So if you are playing the Ducks next week, how do you prepare? You don’t give up 74 points. such wisdom |
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Post by ee1990 on Sept 2, 2023 19:30:11 GMT -8
Serious answer though. Against their offense do a deep zone to keep the big plays at a minimum. Blitz heavy calls to get pressure on nix and limit the outside run game. Blitz mostly up the middle or long side of the field and keep the DEs in a shallow contain to keep the play in the pocket. If possible plenty of stunts and twists to confuse their young OLine. On offense I'm going TE and up the middle run packages to wear them out. Their depth is questionable and their best athletes are on the edges and in coverage. I'd keep it simple until they add guys to the box or creep up then start the ole PA. Most teams are rebuilt for that offense these days though...but we are. Their OL is not really young. Because I like doing this I googled. Their starters from today, prior to today. jones 1500 snaps in 34 games with 17 starts. SR powers johnson 607 snaps in 23 games with 1 start. JR cornelius 1428 snaps in 22 games all starts(portaled in). JR harper 721 snaps in 20 games with 10 starts. JR conerly jr 118 snaps in 13 games. True SO, former 5 star. |
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Post by ee1990 on Sept 2, 2023 19:30:54 GMT -8
Also, in the modern game, stopping the pass is what matters more unless you're just an absolute door mat against the run. It reminds me of Bill Belichick telling his Lawrence Taylor defense in Super Bowl XXV that they'd win if Thurman Thomas had 100 yards rushing. True in the NFL but the mismatches still exist in college for effective run games. It still exists in the NFL too but it's outliers like Henry. The run game is about getting first downs not touchdowns (in the league). Yep that's definitely more of a thing in the NFL and I'm not saying that's what Oregon did as I have neither the time, inclination, nor ability to analyze their all 22 even if I had it, haha. |
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Post by irimi on Sept 2, 2023 19:32:07 GMT -8
So if you are playing the Ducks next week, how do you prepare? Look at the tape and apply my system to stop what they were doing with my players. Coaches don't look at stats to design a game plan. They look at analytics of what plays and systems they are using. They may also scheme around star players. They won't see PSU rushes for 100 yards in the first quarter and design the game around running. They look at the defensive scheme and personnel to figure out what may work for their team and build other options in if it doesn't. watching the ducks play may be palatable to you with your wife and to CarlosDanger and maybe even Smails who seems bitter enough to enjoy the abuse, but not me. I liked the stat that a lowly team like PSU could gain 100 yards on the ground in the first quarter against the mighty Ducks. And I’m surprised to receive so much flack about my comment on a Beaver sports board. Some of you are showing your green. |
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