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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 24, 2023 12:53:53 GMT -8
Not surprised... dude fits with the DD crowd: "I’d be done with college sports. Well… sports in general because Beavers sports was all I cared about." "It's over. Nobody wants us." Just two of his enlightened posts. So, screwed, no chance to succeed, left behind, programs going to just fall apart as coaches and players leave in a mass exodus. I guess OSU might as well finish out the '23-24 athletic year and sell off all the gear, rent out Reser and other venues, and just have club sports?? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2023 13:11:56 GMT -8
Both my statements still stand true though.
Nobody will be getting excited when we’re playing teams like Idaho State Tech in the leftover league. To this day not one league has shown any interest in the Beavs. Not one.
For f%#*s sake. Let’s not ignore the truth of our situation people. I really hope I’m wrong and will happily admit it if a miracle happens.
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Post by castorcanadensis on Aug 24, 2023 13:13:35 GMT -8
Both my statements still stand true though. Nobody will be getting excited when we’re playing teams like Idaho State Tech in the leftover league. To this day not one league has shown any interest in the Beavs. Not one. Four f%#*s sake. Let’s not ignore the truth of our situation people. I really hope I’m wrong and will happily admit it if a miracle happens. You aren’t wrong. We should be begging the big 12 to let us in for whatever the mountain west would pay us. We have to be power 5 or it will be a disaster. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 24, 2023 13:16:14 GMT -8
Both my statements still stand true though. Nobody will be getting excited when we’re playing teams like Idaho State Tech in the leftover league. To this day not one league has shown any interest in the Beavs. Not one. For f%#*s sake. Let’s not ignore the truth of our situation people. I really hope I’m wrong and will happily admit it if a miracle happens. I think that Oregon State is probably top of the list if the Big 12 were to expand again with say a Boise State or Wazzu as our "rival." The Big Ten snubs us, because they are academic snobs. The AAC would love to have us, as would the Mountain West. Historically, Oregon State was a small fish in a huge pond. It might be nice to start dominating teams on a tier below the conference that we have played in for the past 60 years............or it could just be wretched. Who knows? I am going to assume that things are going to work out great for Oregon State in the long-run and not get too down on all of this. |
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Post by rgeorge on Aug 24, 2023 13:56:31 GMT -8
Both my statements still stand true though. Nobody will be getting excited when we’re playing teams like Idaho State Tech in the leftover league. To this day not one league has shown any interest in the Beavs. Not one. For f%#*s sake. Let’s not ignore the truth of our situation people. I really hope I’m wrong and will happily admit it if a miracle happens. First... you are wrong. Thousands will be in Reser every game. The proof is in every "Idaho State Tech" that's ever entered our stadium. You, probably not. Too bad. But, do you even attend live events? Maybe that's your problem not knowing ower tier teams still draw thousands to Reser. As far as your 2nd assertion. Again wrong... MWC & AAC have. Maybe not part of your elitist conference mentality, but again you're wrong. Verifiable. But, just keep posting nonsense, eventually you'll be close. It's almost like you want to be right about OSU having some sort of AD collapse. Lol... reality? It's that you don't know a thing about what's going to happen. Again ideologues are the best! |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Aug 24, 2023 16:56:04 GMT -8
Flattail, I would advise you to put rgeorge, and Smails on ignore. They are essentially trolls. I mean smails' "that's what she said" posts and the like, are semi entertaining, but for the most part they both just wait for opps to argue, and belittle people. I'm betting their wives run a really tight ship, so they take it out on Beav fans in here.
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Post by ee1990 on Aug 24, 2023 18:59:12 GMT -8
"If you speak the truth, have a foot in the stirrup."
“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 24, 2023 19:15:26 GMT -8
Not sure that "decimated" is the correct word. SDSU's budget last year was $65 million and ours was $83 million. It will certainly be less, but we have revenue from a lot of other sources than just the core TV contract. I think the AD is going to have to persuade our donors to ignore donating to our NIL collectives and get back to just donating to the core athletic programs. We're currently barely making a dent in NIL anyways in compared to the big boys. Maybe decimated is not the proper word......but we are going to have less $$, in a lesser conference. Maybe not. Never be certain. I doubt a lot of people thought we'd have 2/3ds of the west side of Reser essentially paid off before it opens. |
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Post by ee1990 on Aug 24, 2023 19:16:22 GMT -8
Both my statements still stand true though. Nobody will be getting excited when we’re playing teams like Idaho State Tech in the leftover league. To this day not one league has shown any interest in the Beavs. Not one. For f%#*s sake. Let’s not ignore the truth of our situation people. I really hope I’m wrong and will happily admit it if a miracle happens. First... you are wrong. Thousands will be in Reser every game. The proof is in every "Idaho State Tech" that's ever entered our stadium. You, probably not. Too bad. But, do you even attend live events? Maybe that's your problem not knowing ower tier teams still draw thousands to Reser. As far as your 2nd assertion. Again wrong... MWC & AAC have. Maybe not part of your elitist conference mentality, but again you're wrong. Verifiable. But, just keep posting nonsense, eventually you'll be close. It's almost like you want to be right about OSU having some sort of AD collapse. Lol... reality? It's that you don't know a thing about what's going to happen. Again ideologues are the best! Come on, you might disagree with the phrasing or think it's exaggeration but I'm sure you're capable of understanding the simple, logical, likely to happen points being made. We will_not have as high attendance in the MWC. I don't think that is a crazy statement. That means multiple things, it means less revenue, it means potentially negative effects in recruiting and in our general presence in the CFB world. We become smaller time in the MWC, period. I don't see how there's an argument otherwise. Speaking of recruiting, are we suddenly going to start recruiting better in a smaller conference? It makes zero sense, and would be utterly illogical to think that. We're going to be generating a lot less revenue. That affects everything. Of course people will say we're the good guys and 9er is a wizard and we don't need to recruit and yada yada, but that's just not realistic. The weaker we become, the harder it will be to affect change that gets us back where we want to be. That's why people are "negative". I think that is the core logic with the great concern many of us have about this situation. It is not reasonable to think that going to a much lesser conference for a few years will afford us some grand opportunity the next time expansion happens. This is a borderline, if not outright disaster, and people should be upset, there should be the wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth. This is absolutely awful. The light at the end of the tunnel is the defered money that will help sustain us for 4-5 years, perhaps in that time things will change in a much more positive way than seem realistic today. But the current reality of the situation is dire. I commend people for looking on the bright side and maintaining their passion for OSU athletics, but there's a point where it beomes head in the sand and is detrimental to the progams and university we're trying to support. We need to "keep it real" in order to make decisions that will best promote success. Just a wing and a prayer hopefulness leads to blind spots in areas that could perhaps actually help us. We need to be critical right now. |
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Post by irimi on Aug 24, 2023 19:21:43 GMT -8
Both my statements still stand true though. Nobody will be getting excited when we’re playing teams like Idaho State Tech in the leftover league. To this day not one league has shown any interest in the Beavs. Not one.For f%#*s sake. Let’s not ignore the truth of our situation people. I really hope I’m wrong and will happily admit it if a miracle happens. I’d like to know your source because I am only aware of rumors and guesses. It may well be true, or it could be that we think there is better opportunity in rebuilding the Pac. Everything I’ve read from OSU suggests the latter to be true. It’s a game of poker. Half the teams went into negotiations with their exit strategy in place, I’m sure, but they didn’t show their cards until the last minute—at least officially. In other words, don’t believe what you read. Be patient and keep the faith. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Aug 24, 2023 19:29:17 GMT -8
First... you are wrong. Thousands will be in Reser every game. The proof is in every "Idaho State Tech" that's ever entered our stadium. You, probably not. Too bad. But, do you even attend live events? Maybe that's your problem not knowing ower tier teams still draw thousands to Reser. As far as your 2nd assertion. Again wrong... MWC & AAC have. Maybe not part of your elitist conference mentality, but again you're wrong. Verifiable. But, just keep posting nonsense, eventually you'll be close. It's almost like you want to be right about OSU having some sort of AD collapse. Lol... reality? It's that you don't know a thing about what's going to happen. Again ideologues are the best! Come on, you might disagree with the phrasing or think it's exaggeration but I'm sure you're capable of understanding the simple, logical, likely to happen points being made. We will_not have as high attendance in the MWC. I don't think that is a crazy statement. That means multiple things, it means less revenue, it means potentially negative effects in recruiting and in our general presence in the CFB world. We become smaller time in the MWC, period. I don't see how there's an argument otherwise. Speaking of recruiting, are we suddenly going to start recruiting better in a smaller conference? It makes zero sense, and would be utterly illogical to think that. We're going to be generating a lot less revenue. That affects everything. Of course people will say we're the good guys and 9er is a wizard and we don't need to recruit and yada yada, but that's just not realistic. The weaker we become, the harder it will be to affect change that gets us back where we want to be. That's why people are "negative". I think that is the core logic with the great concern many of us have about this situation. It is not reasonable to think that going to a much lesser conference for a few years will afford us some grand opportunity the next time expansion happens. This is a borderline, if not outright disaster, and people should be upset, there should be the wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth. This is absolutely awful. The light at the end of the tunnel is the defered money that will help sustain us for 4-5 years, perhaps in that time things will change in a much more positive way than seem realistic today. But the current reality of the situation is dire. I commend people for looking on the bright side and maintaining their passion for OSU athletics, but there's a point where it beomes head in the sand and is detrimental to the progams and university we're trying to support. We need to "keep it real" in order to make decisions that will best promote success. Just a wing and a prayer hopefulness leads to blind spots in areas that could perhaps actually help us. We need to be critical right now. [b You can “keep it real” all you want. It will have zero to do with what conference we end up in. And your opinion is detrimental to s%#t. You have no say in anything. I may have my head in the sand, but it’s better than your head up your ass. Oh yeah, and the deferred money may keep us alive a year or so, but it’s not the $420 million that keeps getting thrown around. But, continue to hand wring, it will do nothing. |
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Post by ee1990 on Aug 24, 2023 19:38:57 GMT -8
Come on, you might disagree with the phrasing or think it's exaggeration but I'm sure you're capable of understanding the simple, logical, likely to happen points being made. We will_not have as high attendance in the MWC. I don't think that is a crazy statement. That means multiple things, it means less revenue, it means potentially negative effects in recruiting and in our general presence in the CFB world. We become smaller time in the MWC, period. I don't see how there's an argument otherwise. Speaking of recruiting, are we suddenly going to start recruiting better in a smaller conference? It makes zero sense, and would be utterly illogical to think that. We're going to be generating a lot less revenue. That affects everything. Of course people will say we're the good guys and 9er is a wizard and we don't need to recruit and yada yada, but that's just not realistic. The weaker we become, the harder it will be to affect change that gets us back where we want to be. That's why people are "negative". I think that is the core logic with the great concern many of us have about this situation. It is not reasonable to think that going to a much lesser conference for a few years will afford us some grand opportunity the next time expansion happens. This is a borderline, if not outright disaster, and people should be upset, there should be the wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth. This is absolutely awful. The light at the end of the tunnel is the defered money that will help sustain us for 4-5 years, perhaps in that time things will change in a much more positive way than seem realistic today. But the current reality of the situation is dire. I commend people for looking on the bright side and maintaining their passion for OSU athletics, but there's a point where it beomes head in the sand and is detrimental to the progams and university we're trying to support. We need to "keep it real" in order to make decisions that will best promote success. Just a wing and a prayer hopefulness leads to blind spots in areas that could perhaps actually help us. We need to be critical right now. [b You can “keep it real” all you want. It will have zero to do with what conference we end up in. And your opinion is detrimental to s%#t. You have no say in anything. I may have my head in the sand, but it’s better than your head up your ass. Oh yeah, and the deferred money may keep us alive a year or so, but it’s not the $420 million that keeps getting thrown around. But, continue to hand wring, it will do nothing. Of course my post on a messageboard means nothing. That's your angle? Hopefully, leadership in our administrations are looking at this from a cynical and critical eye, as those types of people will expose opportunities for improvement, rather than just having blind faith that everything will be okay. I do somewhat disagree that our opinions, on a macro level and over time, cannot influence outcomes. The head in the sand, how dare you question him, he's our coach! culture among UW fans got them 0-12. The "he's an Oregonian and Chip picked him" logic from people at the UO got them Mark Helfrich. I can't go into Dr. Murthy's office and hold her accountable for anything. But over time, tens of thousands of us can. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Aug 24, 2023 19:42:32 GMT -8
[b You can “keep it real” all you want. It will have zero to do with what conference we end up in. And your opinion is detrimental to s%#t. You have no say in anything. I may have my head in the sand, but it’s better than your head up your ass. Oh yeah, and the deferred money may keep us alive a year or so, but it’s not the $420 million that keeps getting thrown around. But, continue to hand wring, it will do nothing. Of course my post on a messageboard means nothing. That's your angle? Hopefully, leadership in our administrations are looking at this from a cynical and critical eye, as those types of people will expose opportunities for improvement, rather than just having blind faith that everything will be okay. I do somewhat disagree that our opinions, on a macro level and over time, cannot influence outcomes. The head in the sand, how dare you question him, he's our coach! culture among UW fans got them 0-12. The "he's an Oregonian and Chip picked him" logic from people at the UO got them Mark Helfrich. I can't go into Dr. Murthy's office and hold her accountable for anything. But over time, tens of thousands of us can. Mark Helfrich coached his team to a national title game. So that’s bad? Have we gotten there and I missed it? |
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Post by ee1990 on Aug 24, 2023 19:45:24 GMT -8
Of course my post on a messageboard means nothing. That's your angle? Hopefully, leadership in our administrations are looking at this from a cynical and critical eye, as those types of people will expose opportunities for improvement, rather than just having blind faith that everything will be okay. I do somewhat disagree that our opinions, on a macro level and over time, cannot influence outcomes. The head in the sand, how dare you question him, he's our coach! culture among UW fans got them 0-12. The "he's an Oregonian and Chip picked him" logic from people at the UO got them Mark Helfrich. I can't go into Dr. Murthy's office and hold her accountable for anything. But over time, tens of thousands of us can. Mark Helfrich coached his team to a national title game. So that’s bad? Have we gotten there and I missed it? And Larry Coker won one. The end result for Oregon was a disastrous tenure and the destruction of a strong program. Also, you just seem to be flailing at anything that moves at this point instead of actually addressing what I've said. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Aug 24, 2023 19:52:59 GMT -8
First... you are wrong. Thousands will be in Reser every game. The proof is in every "Idaho State Tech" that's ever entered our stadium. You, probably not. Too bad. But, do you even attend live events? Maybe that's your problem not knowing ower tier teams still draw thousands to Reser. As far as your 2nd assertion. Again wrong... MWC & AAC have. Maybe not part of your elitist conference mentality, but again you're wrong. Verifiable. But, just keep posting nonsense, eventually you'll be close. It's almost like you want to be right about OSU having some sort of AD collapse. Lol... reality? It's that you don't know a thing about what's going to happen. Again ideologues are the best! Come on, you might disagree with the phrasing or think it's exaggeration but I'm sure you're capable of understanding the simple, logical, likely to happen points being made. We will_not have as high attendance in the MWC. I don't think that is a crazy statement. That means multiple things, it means less revenue, it means potentially negative effects in recruiting and in our general presence in the CFB world. We become smaller time in the MWC, period. I don't see how there's an argument otherwise. Speaking of recruiting, are we suddenly going to start recruiting better in a smaller conference? It makes zero sense, and would be utterly illogical to think that. We're going to be generating a lot less revenue. That affects everything. Of course people will say we're the good guys and 9er is a wizard and we don't need to recruit and yada yada, but that's just not realistic. The weaker we become, the harder it will be to affect change that gets us back where we want to be. That's why people are "negative". I think that is the core logic with the great concern many of us have about this situation. It is not reasonable to think that going to a much lesser conference for a few years will afford us some grand opportunity the next time expansion happens. This is a borderline, if not outright disaster, and people should be upset, there should be the wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth. This is absolutely awful. The light at the end of the tunnel is the defered money that will help sustain us for 4-5 years, perhaps in that time things will change in a much more positive way than seem realistic today. But the current reality of the situation is dire. I commend people for looking on the bright side and maintaining their passion for OSU athletics, but there's a point where it beomes head in the sand and is detrimental to the progams and university we're trying to support. We need to "keep it real" in order to make decisions that will best promote success. Just a wing and a prayer hopefulness leads to blind spots in areas that could perhaps actually help us. We need to be critical right now. Dude, I'm with ya.....but, yea don't expect to explain yourself on here, and win over the usual suspects. They feast on those of us who are more disappointed with the current state of Beaver athletics.....even questioning our fandom.....I'm learning to just ignore em. |
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