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Post by avidbeaver on Aug 6, 2023 7:41:38 GMT -8
How many teams do you add to the conference and who do you add besides SDSU, UNLV BOISE ST, CSU AND NEVADA. Hopefully I am using the right board but I guess I will find out.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Aug 6, 2023 7:50:07 GMT -8
How many teams do you add to the conference and who do you add besides probably SDSU, UNLV AND NEVADA. Hopefully I am using the right board but I guess I will find out. We have a tough road to relevance but part of that is going to be having a large enough conference. At this point you pretty much merge with the MWC and work towards a 20 team conference. Hope to get a media deal in the 15 mil a team range and hope the big boost in media rights beings the other teams out of the dumpster. Even if it's less money the new conference should try to limit the length of a media deal and bank on upping their competitiveness. SEC and B10 will continue running away with it but it's probably better to be the fourth 20 team conference than a random 8-10 conference waiting to be tossed in a dumpster. |
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Post by avidbeaver on Aug 6, 2023 8:24:20 GMT -8
Sorry forgot to put Boise St and CSU as a team also. Fixed it. Nothing there just didnt think it thru enough
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Aug 6, 2023 8:33:02 GMT -8
Sorry forgot to put Boise St as a team also. List of teams with some relevance in football would be SDSU, Nevada (terrible rn though), Air Force, Fresno, and Boise. Some that have been to bowls recently are Utah State, Hawaii, SJSU (on the rise), and Wyoming. UNLV, CSU and New Mexico need Dr. Frankenstein's help to be considered animate. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 6, 2023 8:44:07 GMT -8
I’d get to 12 as quickly as possible the next few months, then say we are open to up to as many as 4-6 more to expand. Go for the top 4 to 6 MWC teams, try to retain SMU and get 1 more from the region, IF there’s a viable smaller SoCal based school who wants to move up consider it. Basically get 8 handpicked teams to make a reasonably stronger conference than by just joining the MWC. Once to 12 committed you’d have a league and a lot better chance of a meaningful media contract, maybe not 20 million but way better than 4 million, and with two teams out in Texas/the South you’d open up that while having only 1 long road trip every other year or so for the west coast schools.
After the media contract, which should allow for expansion without diluting the deal for any school, there will probably be others from around the country interested that would be worth a look. Somebody earlier had an idea I now think think was very good, University of British Columbia, I think they’d be a great expansion target at that point.
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Post by korculabeav on Aug 6, 2023 8:48:23 GMT -8
What about the 420M share over the next few years that the remaining 4 get that the other idiot traitor schools forfeited? How does that calculus pan out if we add 8 new teams for ‘24 and beyond?
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Post by Mike84 on Aug 6, 2023 9:16:15 GMT -8
I don't understand how the Pac-X adds anybody at all. The proposed Apple media deal was so unacceptable that everybody that could leave, pretty much, left. And that was just a proposal when we had all those teams. Now there is no deal. Can't expand a "conference" that has no media deal and can't get a media deal when you have 4 teams. What am I missing?
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Post by ftd on Aug 6, 2023 9:30:51 GMT -8
I seem to recall when we were looking at being the Pac 16 there was discussion of Boise State...but it was a no go because of academic/research standards required by the then Pac 12...Has that requirement changed?
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Post by beaverbeliever on Aug 6, 2023 9:50:00 GMT -8
Boise is absolutely going to be in whatever version of a Mountain West conference we end up in - and we want that. A strong football program and the second-closest school to ours.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Aug 6, 2023 10:16:21 GMT -8
Hopefully the remaining presidents have learned that academics don't mean squat in conference affiliations, except the Ivy League.
I feel the Pac will rue the day it didn't take the deal with Apple. Streaming is the future, we would have been so far ahead of everyone ... funny that the so-called cutting-edge, edgy, trendy innovative school was the one who sunk the deal because it was so tied to broadcasting games on traditional TV.
The new hybrid Pac/MWC will have another bite at the Apple (I saw what I did there), you can bet on that.
The Big Ten was Mr. Potter, buying two of the top members of George Bailey's credit union for 45 cents on the dollar.
"They're out to break us
Don't let them have their way."
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Post by Mike84 on Aug 6, 2023 10:32:18 GMT -8
... I feel the Pac will rue the day it didn't take the deal with Apple.... When you say "the Pac" here, do you mean the schools that fled? I think the conference commissioner was ready to take the deal. I think OSU and WSU and Cal and Standford were ready to take the deal (as of Friday morning if not Thursday night). So, the ones who will rue the day are the ones that went to the other conferences and got the big money now? |
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Post by beaver94 on Aug 6, 2023 10:36:29 GMT -8
Hopefully the remaining presidents have learned that academics don't mean squat in conference affiliations, except the Ivy League. I feel the Pac will rue the day it didn't take the deal with Apple. Streaming is the future, we would have been so far ahead of everyone ... funny that the so-called cutting-edge, edgy, trendy innovative school was the one who sunk the deal because it was so tied to broadcasting games on traditional TV. The new hybrid Pac/MWC will have another bite at the Apple (I saw what I did there), you can bet on that. The Big Ten was Mr. Potter, buying two of the top members of George Bailey's credit union for 45 cents on the dollar. "They're out to break us
Don't let them have their way."Steve Forbert That trendy, cutting-edge school also wants everyone to think their brand is some amazing national brand. In the end they didn’t have the belief that that brand was big enough to push subscriptions. Instead they settled for a partial rate and increased expenses going forward. |
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Post by sparty on Aug 6, 2023 11:36:10 GMT -8
Sorry forgot to put Boise St as a team also. List of teams with some relevance in football would be SDSU, Nevada (terrible rn though), Air Force, Fresno, and Boise. Some that have been to bowls recently are Utah State, Hawaii, SJSU (on the rise), and Wyoming. UNLV, CSU and New Mexico need Dr. Frankenstein's help to be considered animate. Does anyone at all find alittle bit of irony in all of this talking about who is revelant to poach from in a conference when teams in the Big12 and Big1o were talking about who is revelant in the pac-12 last week and we were not one of them. The Boise St. fans especially and the other MWC fans are pointing this out.
I get what you are saying though but it does an a small tinge of irony.
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Post by ocbeav on Aug 6, 2023 11:38:47 GMT -8
Just a rumor…
According to Jamie Plunkett of Horned Frog Blitz (247Sports), the Big 12 will look to add a 17th and 18th conference member by the end of 2023. Two teams that Plunkett mentioned as possible extension candidates were UConn (Independent) and Oregon State (Pac-12).
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Post by NativeBeav on Aug 6, 2023 11:45:55 GMT -8
Just a rumor… According to Jamie Plunkett of Horned Frog Blitz (247Sports), the Big 12 will look to add a 17th and 18th conference member by the end of 2023. Two teams that Plunkett mentioned as possible extension candidates were UConn (Independent) and Oregon State (Pac-12). I hope we are well on our way rebuilding the PAC (or whatever the new name is) before we join the Big12. That would be pretty hypocritical of us, considering what Scott Barnes on down have said about the "traitors" that have recently left. I would not be in favor of that at all, unless we figuratively had a gun to our head - join Big12 or go independent |
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