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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Aug 1, 2023 18:42:32 GMT -8
Self-serve gas is already available in parts of Oregon and will be throughout the state shortly. Some of you people need to catch up. Remind me again how convenient self-service gas is some January day when it's pouring cats and dogs. Most people I know greatly prefer it being light later in the day under DST instead of being dark at 4:30. When and where is it "dark" at 4:30 p.m. in the State of Oregon? DST is a hustle to keep Americans up and spending later in the day and has been since the Uniform Time Act of 1966. Obviously been a long time since you lived in Oregon. The sun sets regularly in the 4:30-4:40 range throughout late November and December, and it's plenty dark before than on overcast days. There was not a 5 p.m. sunset in Portland until Jan. 21 of 2023. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Aug 1, 2023 18:45:26 GMT -8
Saw this posted today: On the crappleTV deal for the Pac 12. They would need 32.6 million subscribers to get Big 12 numbers. That's a bit less than 10% of America. That's about how many people are currently subscribed to AppleTV. That's a separate +$20/month subscription. Good luck. Unless you are a Pac-9 administrator or AD, or with a broadcast entity, you have absolutely no idea about the full details of the deal. There is no more unreliable news source than Twitter. But feel free to pretend some guy on Twitter knows WTF he's talking about. |
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Post by cake on Aug 1, 2023 18:48:47 GMT -8
Saw this posted today: On the crappleTV deal for the Pac 12. They would need 32.6 million subscribers to get Big 12 numbers. That's a bit less than 10% of America. That's about how many people are currently subscribed to AppleTV. That's a separate +$20/month subscription. Good luck. Unless you are a Pac-9 administrator or AD, or with a broadcast entity, you have absolutely no idea about the full details of the deal. There is no more unreliable news source than Twitter. But feel free to pretend some guy on Twitter knows WTF he's talking about. Suspect math too. As described, that would be roughly $8 billion a year. |
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Post by sparty on Aug 1, 2023 19:01:57 GMT -8
Saw this posted today: On the crappleTV deal for the Pac 12. They would need 32.6 million subscribers to get Big 12 numbers. That's a bit less than 10% of America. That's about how many people are currently subscribed to AppleTV. That's a separate +$20/month subscription. Good luck. Unless you are a Pac-9 administrator or AD, or with a broadcast entity, you have absolutely no idea about the full details of the deal. You aren't Clownzano are you? There is no more unreliable news source than Twitter. But feel free to pretend some guy on Twitter knows WTF he's talking about. Do the simple math, Brainard. You have the Big 12 numbers. You know the population in America. The subscriber numbers are available. It is telling you the number of Apple subscribers needed. |
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Post by billthebeav on Aug 1, 2023 19:08:47 GMT -8
Unless you are a Pac-9 administrator or AD, or with a broadcast entity, you have absolutely no idea about the full details of the deal. You aren't Clownzano are you? There is no more unreliable news source than Twitter. But feel free to pretend some guy on Twitter knows WTF he's talking about. Do the simple math, Brainard. You have the Big 12 numbers. You know the population in America. The subscriber numbers are available. It is telling you the number of Apple subscribers needed. They don’t sell advertising on Apple TV? |
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Post by irimi on Aug 1, 2023 19:14:35 GMT -8
Unless you are a Pac-9 administrator or AD, or with a broadcast entity, you have absolutely no idea about the full details of the deal. You aren't Clownzano are you? There is no more unreliable news source than Twitter. But feel free to pretend some guy on Twitter knows WTF he's talking about. Do the simple math, Brainard. You have the Big 12 numbers. You know the population in America. The subscriber numbers are available. It is telling you the number of Apple subscribers needed. Not our job to figure out where or how Apple will get their money. |
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Post by wetrodentia on Aug 1, 2023 19:15:04 GMT -8
OK I’ll stick my neck out without knowing anything about negotiations or numbers just for speculation: if you can get 5 million subscribers at $10 per month for 9 months Sept thru May that’s 450 million. Divide by 12 teams = 37.5 million. That’s before expenses but also not including ad revenue. Seems doable. What am I missing in this general scenario? 30 million per team?
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Post by NativeBeav on Aug 1, 2023 19:19:19 GMT -8
OK I’ll stick my neck out without knowing anything about negotiations or numbers just for speculation: if you can get 5 million subscribers at $10 per month for 9 months Sept thru May that’s 450 million. Divide by 12 teams = 37.5 million. That’s before expenses but also not including ad revenue. Seems doable. What am I missing in this general scenario? 30 million per team? It gets even better when it is 9 teams - instead of 12 |
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Post by spudbeaver on Aug 1, 2023 19:28:09 GMT -8
Self-serve gas is already available in parts of Oregon and will be throughout the state shortly. Some of you people need to catch up. Remind me again how convenient self-service gas is some January day when it's pouring cats and dogs. Most people I know greatly prefer it being light later in the day under DST instead of being dark at 4:30. When and where is it "dark" at 4:30 p.m. in the State of Oregon? DST is a hustle to keep Americans up and spending later in the day and has been since the Uniform Time Act of 1966. In Corvallis winter term for all my 4:30’s! Dark. Rain. Sucked! |
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Post by irimi on Aug 1, 2023 20:14:02 GMT -8
Saw this posted today: On the crappleTV deal for the Pac 12. They would need 32.6 million subscribers to get Big 12 numbers. That's a bit less than 10% of America. That's about how many people are currently subscribed to AppleTV. That's a separate +$20/month subscription. Good luck. The problem is that in Big 12 country there just isn't anything else but their football. Like shooting fish in a barrel to get high ratings. Different culture in the West, thank god.
What the Pac needs is more national coverage--something that Pac 12 Network failed to give us. And we need a couple contenders. If we get Apple to ink the deal, folks in New Jersey can watch us--probably at their leisure--and see what the Pac is all about. If we get a team in the CFP (other than UofO and U$C) then it will build credibility. And we are poised to see that happen with a strong conference this year.
Sure, USC and UCLA taking off really sucked, but they have to live with the consequences. The Pac is on an upward trend. Last year, we finished the year with 6 teams ranked in the top 25. The Big Ten had 3.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 1, 2023 20:15:48 GMT -8
Saw this posted today: On the crappleTV deal for the Pac 12. They would need 32.6 million subscribers to get Big 12 numbers. That's a bit less than 10% of America. That's about how many people are currently subscribed to AppleTV. That's a separate +$20/month subscription. Good luck. If Apple needs to get to 32.5 million from where they currently are, it might be doable, but tough. Otherwise if it was a case of somebody doing math and thinking the Pac-Whatever had to drum up 32.5 million new customers at 20 dollars a month, either that person can't do math or Apple has a hell of a profit margin. 32.5 million times 20 is 650 million, every month. If everbody turns it on for football and basketball only and turns it off at the end of March that's 4.5 billion bucks Apple would be taking in for those 7 months. I'd think Apple could probably afford to throw the league a bit more if that were the case. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 1, 2023 21:09:32 GMT -8
I haven't read this whole thread, so pardon me if I'm redundant. My fellow old farts will remember when, during the Nixon administration, year round daylight savings time was tried as an energy savings measure. Mothers around the country absolutely hated it because their children were waiting for the school bus in the dark. No stronger political force exists than upset mothers; it was soon rescinded. In response to the 1973 Oil Embargo, the Democratically-controlled Congress passed a year round Daylight Savings Time Act on December 14, 1973, and Nixon signed it into law the next day. The law went into effect on January 6, 1974. Early morning traffic deaths increased by 11%, and there were around 6-8 immediate deaths of kids going to school on the dark, which was picked up on by the media and sensationalized. Having said that, there was a similar drop in afternoon traffic deaths. Big business loved it, because it increased afternoon spending, especially spending on golf, which increased 20%, and a similar, though less pronounced, increase on sports spending in general. Senator Bob Dole introduced the law to eliminate year-round Daylight Savings Time in August 1974, and Congress passed it at the end of September. President Ford signed the bill into law on October 5, 1974, less than nine months after it had been implemented. The United States went back to Standard Time on October 27, 1974. |
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Post by ag87 on Aug 1, 2023 21:17:00 GMT -8
Arizona is on PDT for 7.5 months +/- each year and you don't like it?
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 1, 2023 21:17:58 GMT -8
When and where is it "dark" at 4:30 p.m. in the State of Oregon? DST is a hustle to keep Americans up and spending later in the day and has been since the Uniform Time Act of 1966. Obviously been a long time since you lived in Oregon. The sun sets regularly in the 4:30-4:40 range throughout late November and December, and it's plenty dark before than on overcast days. There was not a 5 p.m. sunset in Portland until Jan. 21 of 2023. Dark, though? It's still Civil Twilight until 5:01 p.m. even on the earliest sunset. It's never "dark" until after six. I hear you with the rain and everything I suppose. But you aren't going out in the rain anyway, "dark" or not. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 1, 2023 21:20:06 GMT -8
Arizona is on PDT for 7.5 months +/- each year and you don't like it? We are on year-round MST. Makes sense. You don't need to "save" daylight. Too much already. |
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