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Post by castorcanadensis on Aug 1, 2023 12:28:55 GMT -8
I honestly believe Canzano has inside sources, but so far everything he's repeated hasn't really panned out. So I'm taking everything he says with a pound and a half of salt. He has been so far off with his "sources" it is embarrassing. Others out there have a better winning percentage than Canzano and Wilner. Post those then please. Thanks. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 1, 2023 12:29:59 GMT -8
What are many going to do if the Pac gets a deal as good or better than the Big 12? Why do we need to know every step of the process? Losing Colorado.,.is that a big loss to anyone??? If the Pac adds SDS and/or SMU,isn’t that an overall win? So the last deal was viewed as athe biggest blockbuster deal ever in college football at the time it was announced. A decade later it was considered a poor deal, probably several years too long. I'm expecting this deal not to be a blockbuster. But, if it's forward thinking and breaks new ground and does well, it could set up for a great deal the next go around. It could be a complete bust, or something surprisingly positive. It'll be interesting to see. |
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Post by 411500 on Aug 1, 2023 12:35:05 GMT -8
sparty - - Who, for example, has better "sources" or better "winning percentage" than Wilner?
Seriously. Who?
He is one of the most highly respected sports writers on the West Coast.
Seriously. Who?
GO BEAVS!!
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Post by 93beav on Aug 1, 2023 12:42:43 GMT -8
What are many going to do if the Pac gets a deal as good or better than the Big 12? Why do we need to know every step of the process? Losing Colorado.,.is that a big loss to anyone??? If the Pac adds SDS and/or SMU,isn’t that an overall win? So the last deal was viewed as athe biggest blockbuster deal ever in college football at the time it was announced. A decade later it was considered a poor deal, probably several years too long. I'm expecting this deal not to be a blockbuster. But, if it's forward thinking and breaks new ground and does well, it could set up for a great deal the next go around. It could be a complete bust, or something surprisingly positive. It'll be interesting to see. I still think no matter how crappy the deal is, that Uo and Uw vote for it. I would bet money that one of those two were one of the teams against expansion. Think about it - they get the bare minimum to keep the conference's advantages alive (automatic playoff seeding, etc.) and then just make up the difference in $$$ with their boosters' money. They don't want to add more teams if they don't have to - that means more money split and more chances of losing to someone. Existing teams fall in the PAC fall well behind them because they don't have the $$$ to keep up, so they get an even better chance of making it to the playoffs. I continue to believe that NIL is what unleashed all of this. At this point, I'd be okay with going to the MWC or some lesser conference just because you'd get to enjoy more football and worry less about where you're going to find all of the $$$ to compete with the other schools. Eventually the "big" football schools will be down to 16 or 20 and they can celebrate being the best football school in the nation by virtue of beating out 19 other "club" schools of assembled mercenaries! |
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Post by grayman on Aug 1, 2023 13:05:52 GMT -8
So the last deal was viewed as athe biggest blockbuster deal ever in college football at the time it was announced. A decade later it was considered a poor deal, probably several years too long. I'm expecting this deal not to be a blockbuster. But, if it's forward thinking and breaks new ground and does well, it could set up for a great deal the next go around. It could be a complete bust, or something surprisingly positive. It'll be interesting to see. I still think no matter how crappy the deal is, that Uo and Uw vote for it. I would bet money that one of those two were one of the teams against expansion. Think about it - they get the bare minimum to keep the conference's advantages alive (automatic playoff seeding, etc.) and then just make up the difference in $$$ with their boosters' money. They don't want to add more teams if they don't have to - that means more money split and more chances of losing to someone. Existing teams fall in the PAC fall well behind them because they don't have the $$$ to keep up, so they get an even better chance of making it to the playoffs. I continue to believe that NIL is what unleashed all of this. At this point, I'd be okay with going to the MWC or some lesser conference just because you'd get to enjoy more football and worry less about where you're going to find all of the $$$ to compete with the other schools. Eventually the "big" football schools will be down to 16 or 20 and they can celebrate being the best football school in the nation by virtue of beating out 19 other "club" schools of assembled mercenaries! Yeah...I agree that NIL has become an issue, but I'd be careful about going to the MWC unless it's absolutely necessary. Personally, I think NIL is going to be reined in significantly in the next year or two. And the Beavers have shown that they can win despite all the obstacles. If the NIL becomes more reasonable there's no reason to think that Smith won't have football at a strong level on a regular basis (assuming the Pac stuff gets sorted out or OSU lands in the Big-12 or something to that effect). |
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Post by speakthetruth on Aug 1, 2023 13:07:34 GMT -8
So the last deal was viewed as athe biggest blockbuster deal ever in college football at the time it was announced. A decade later it was considered a poor deal, probably several years too long. I'm expecting this deal not to be a blockbuster. But, if it's forward thinking and breaks new ground and does well, it could set up for a great deal the next go around. It could be a complete bust, or something surprisingly positive. It'll be interesting to see. I still think no matter how crappy the deal is, that Uo and Uw vote for it. I would bet money that one of those two were one of the teams against expansion. Think about it - they get the bare minimum to keep the conference's advantages alive (automatic playoff seeding, etc.) and then just make up the difference in $$$ with their boosters' money. They don't want to add more teams if they don't have to - that means more money split and more chances of losing to someone. Existing teams fall in the PAC fall well behind them because they don't have the $$$ to keep up, so they get an even better chance of making it to the playoffs. I continue to believe that NIL is what unleashed all of this. At this point, I'd be okay with going to the MWC or some lesser conference just because you'd get to enjoy more football and worry less about where you're going to find all of the $$$ to compete with the other schools. Eventually the "big" football schools will be down to 16 or 20 and they can celebrate being the best football school in the nation by virtue of beating out 19 other "club" schools of assembled mercenaries! There is no advantage or anything positive dropping to the MWC. First there will be a mass exodus to the transfer portal for all sports men and women. Couldn't afford to pay the coaches we have and thus many would leave. TV Money and season ticket holders would drop dramatically. And on and on. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Aug 1, 2023 13:28:24 GMT -8
The Conference should have hired someone who can get the job done. Where is Monte Hall when you need him???  Monty dead. |
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Post by rgeorge on Aug 1, 2023 13:30:00 GMT -8
The Conference should have hired someone who can get the job done. Where is Monte Hall when you need him??? Monty dead. Well then according to some he's the perfect match for the former Pac12?!  |
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Post by sparty on Aug 1, 2023 13:45:18 GMT -8
Arizona board of Regents scheduled meeting for 3:30 pst today. I would say by 5 pst we could know if zona and now I am hearing zona st. Also, Utah may be the third one now.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 1, 2023 13:55:37 GMT -8
Arizona board of Regents scheduled meeting for 3:30 pst today. I would say by 5 pst we could know if zona and now I am hearing zona st. Also, Utah may be the third one now. Only a 30-minute meeting. You must also remember that the Arizona Board of Regents covers both Arizona and Arizona State. Also, there is no "PST" right now. It's PDT. Arizona is on year-round MST, which is PDT. Canada, Mexico, and the United States each are on PDT right now. And there is no other land in the Pacific Time Zone. Go back to year-round standard time! Daylight Savings Time is big business unnecessarily meddling in everyone's lives to increase afternoon activities and boost profits. |
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Post by sparty on Aug 1, 2023 14:06:12 GMT -8
Arizona board of Regents scheduled meeting for 3:30 pst today. I would say by 5 pst we could know if zona and now I am hearing zona st. Also, Utah may be the third one now. Only a 30-minute meeting. You must also remember that the Arizona Board of Regents covers both Arizona and Arizona State. Also, there is no "PST" right now. It's PDT. Arizona is on year-round MST, which is PDT. Canada, Mexico, and the United States each are on PDT right now. And there is no other land in the Pacific Time Zone. Go back to year-round standard time! Daylight Savings Time is big business unnecessarily meddling in everyone's lives to increase afternoon activities and boost profits. You know that Oregon wants to get rid of the time change but the Gov. was having difficulties in deciding if the public should be able to pump their own gas. Such difficult decisions. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 1, 2023 14:19:05 GMT -8
Only a 30-minute meeting. You must also remember that the Arizona Board of Regents covers both Arizona and Arizona State. Also, there is no "PST" right now. It's PDT. Arizona is on year-round MST, which is PDT. Canada, Mexico, and the United States each are on PDT right now. And there is no other land in the Pacific Time Zone. Go back to year-round standard time! Daylight Savings Time is big business unnecessarily meddling in everyone's lives to increase afternoon activities and boost profits. You know that Oregon wants to get rid of the time change but the Gov. was having difficulties in deciding if the public should be able to pump their own gas. Such difficult decisions. Oregon wants to go fulltime to Daylight Savings, which means that time would be off by almost an hour for about 40 weeks out of the year, which is dumb. Congress is blocking Oregon for the time being. British Columbia likely follows along with what the rest of the West Coast does. I am curious what Baja California would do. Not being able to pump your own gas is also dumb. It seems like there is a very weird nanny state-type mindset at work there. |
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Post by sparty on Aug 1, 2023 14:44:45 GMT -8
Over 1500 on line watching the Arizona Board of Regents meeting. Now here we go for all the marbles. Very interesting.
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Post by beaver55to7 on Aug 1, 2023 14:45:32 GMT -8
You know that Oregon wants to get rid of the time change but the Gov. was having difficulties in deciding if the public should be able to pump their own gas. Such difficult decisions. Oregon wants to go fulltime to Daylight Savings, which means that time would be off by almost an hour for about 40 weeks out of the year, which is dumb. Congress is blocking Oregon for the time being. British Columbia likely follows along with what the rest of the West Coast does. I am curious what Baja California would do. Not being able to pump your own gas is also dumb. It seems like there is a very weird nanny state-type mindset at work there. People who work outside in the morning in winter do not agree with you. Better for you to cry cry cry about having to adjust your internal clock by 1 hour (like people have never flown into another time zone before) then to have high risk outdoor jobs like construction and kids waiting for school busses in the dark all winter. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Aug 1, 2023 14:50:39 GMT -8
My sources are telling me that we will be on Myspace Live!
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