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Post by Bodhisattva on Jul 13, 2023 10:33:57 GMT -8
Infield? 1st Guerra 2nd Bazz 3rd Carraway SS  ? Friends in Las Vegas say Martell is a stud hitter and very good Catcher. Trosky can play short. Guerra can play short, as well. Or has it been determined that he is not able to play to play on the left side of the infield at a D1 level? He had those three errors in eight games in the first half of April that seemed to have semi-permanently move him into outfield. Or are they still thinking about kicking Bazz out of the infield? There was a ton of chatter about that last year. But the only three who played second other than Bazzana were Kennel, Macias, and Peterson. A lot still up in the air. I think the only reason Bazz was looking at the outfield last year was because we lost our entire outfield. It's the opposite this year, so I can't see a reason to move him to outfield now. |
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Post by irimi on Jul 14, 2023 10:59:07 GMT -8
I think Bazz belongs at second. I like that he has two years of experience at the bag. Especially IF Dernedde comes back.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jul 14, 2023 12:49:24 GMT -8
I think Bazz belongs at second. I like that he has two years of experience at the bag. Especially IF Dernedde comes back. If Dernedde comes back and Bazz sticks at second, where does Trosky play? Or Guerra? Or Krieg? Bazz finished first in errors with eight. But he did not have an error over the last four weeks. Of course, before that, he had errors in three consecutive games, including the big error that chased Sellers and created the original four-run deficit against Utah in Game 1. Bazzana also had the error against Cal Poly that allowed two of the first three runs to score in what turned out to be a two-run loss. Bazzana's bat and speed are game-changers. However, the big question is is Bazzana the guy defensively that we saw in the first 80% of the season or the last 20%? |
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Post by irimi on Jul 14, 2023 13:26:16 GMT -8
I think Bazz belongs at second. I like that he has two years of experience at the bag. Especially IF Dernedde comes back. If Dernedde comes back and Bazz sticks at second, where does Trosky play? Or Guerra? Or Krieg? Bazz finished first in errors with eight. But he did not have an error over the last four weeks. Of course, before that, he had errors in three consecutive games, including the big error that chased Sellers and created the original four-run deficit against Utah in Game 1. Bazzana also had the error against Cal Poly that allowed two of the first three runs to score in what turned out to be a two-run loss. Bazzana's bat and speed are game-changers. However, the big question is is Bazzana the guy defensively that we saw in the first 80% of the season or the last 20%? Your stats aren’t wrong but they don’t address some of the fabulous defensive plays he made. They need a category for making plays 9 out of 10 can’t. I am not concerned with where the other guys play or even if they play. I want the best player out there. And I think Dernedde and Bazz are defensively the best we have. Of course, I would be stupid not to allow them a chance to knock the first string out. |
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Post by badwack on Jul 14, 2023 13:32:11 GMT -8
Just asking because I do not know. Does Trosky have the arm to be a really great SS. Range in the hole?
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Post by tamatrix on Jul 14, 2023 14:35:53 GMT -8
Just asking because I do not know. Does Trosky have the arm to be a really great SS. Range in the hole? Yes. |
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Post by Bodhisattva on Jul 15, 2023 12:06:49 GMT -8
Well looks like we answered SS or 3rd base with the WSU transfer.
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Post by jayvinson on Jul 15, 2023 12:47:49 GMT -8
Could the Hainline transfer be the prelude to Bazzana moving to ss?
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jul 15, 2023 13:03:07 GMT -8
Could the Hainline transfer be the prelude to Bazzana moving to ss? More likely that Hainline is coming in to start on the left side of the infield. I personally barely trust Bazz to play second, let alone a more demanding position. |
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Post by irimi on Jul 15, 2023 21:02:44 GMT -8
Could the Hainline transfer be the prelude to Bazzana moving to ss? More likely that Hainline is coming in to start on the left side of the infield. I personally barely trust Bazz to play second, let alone a more demanding position. I haven’t looked carefully (at all) but where do they have him playing in summer ball? |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jul 15, 2023 22:21:07 GMT -8
More likely that Hainline is coming in to start on the left side of the infield. I personally barely trust Bazz to play second, let alone a more demanding position. I haven’t looked carefully (at all) but where do they have him playing in summer ball? Hainline? He is playing in the Cape Cod League for Hyannis. Hainline was All-Pac-12 Honorable Mention last year. Hyannis has them as their starting shortstop most games, some time at second. Four errors in 15 games, though, is not a great record there at short. We were very spoiled with Dernedde. I am guessing that Hainline and Trosky (And maybe Guerra? And Dernedde, if he comes back?) are going to battle it out for shortstop. Bazz is at Cape Cod at Falmouth. An interesting note on Bazz is that he has played more games in left than he has at second. He also has played four games at third, which is........interesting. Things seemed to be going ok there, but Bazz had two errors at third in the first inning in a game a week ago and has not played at third since. Bazz plays, where Bazz fits whether that be second or left (or maybe third?) next year. |
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Post by irimi on Jul 16, 2023 6:47:09 GMT -8
I haven’t looked carefully (at all) but where do they have him playing in summer ball? Hainline? He is playing in the Cape Cod League for Hyannis. Hainline was All-Pac-12 Honorable Mention last year. Hyannis has them as their starting shortstop most games, some time at second. Four errors in 15 games, though, is not a great record there at short. We were very spoiled with Dernedde. I am guessing that Hainline and Trosky (And maybe Guerra? And Dernedde, if he comes back?) are going to battle it out for shortstop. Bazz is at Cape Cod at Falmouth. An interesting note on Bazz is that he has played more games in left than he has at second. He also has played four games at third, which is........interesting. Things seemed to be going ok there, but Bazz had two errors at third in the first inning in a game a week ago and has not played at third since. Bazz plays, where Bazz fits whether that be second or left (or maybe third?) next year. I was curious about Bazzana, but thanks for the info on Hainline too. If Dernedde doesn’t return, I like Trosky at short. He showed he is capable of holding down that position. And my gut still tells me that Bazz at second is a no-brainer. He’s fast and he has two years’ experience there already. Who do you have at first? |
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Post by hawksea on Jul 16, 2023 8:15:53 GMT -8
I think Bazz belongs at second. I like that he has two years of experience at the bag. Especially IF Dernedde comes back. If Dernedde comes back and Bazz sticks at second, where does Trosky play? Or Guerra? Or Krieg? Bazz finished first in errors with eight. But he did not have an error over the last four weeks. Of course, before that, he had errors in three consecutive games, including the big error that chased Sellers and created the original four-run deficit against Utah in Game 1. Bazzana also had the error against Cal Poly that allowed two of the first three runs to score in what turned out to be a two-run loss. Bazzana's bat and speed are game-changers. However, the big question is is Bazzana the guy defensively that we saw in the first 80% of the season or the last 20%? Bazzana was on the all defensive team despite the errors. Talent evaluators don't care about errors that much. If you have the range, arm, and take chances, you will have more errors, but you will also be a much better defensive player than someone like Dernedde who had very few errors, but also let more balls go by him because he couldn't get to them. College baseball doesn't have as many defensive stats as the majors, so you have to go more with the eye test. Bazzana is a great all around player who will be a major league 2nd baseman, and Dernedde will be moving on with his life after this next year. Dernedde is a good kid, but he has been the worst full-time all around shortstop OSU has had in a long time. You barely trust Bazzana at 2nd base, and yet he is the best defensive 2nd baseman in the Pac-12... |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 16, 2023 9:44:44 GMT -8
Most Cape Cod League games are played on high school diamonds, which are a far cry from what he'll play on at OSU and elsewhere. So to some degree errors are less of a concern. And without knowing the total number of chances accepted, four errors is meaningless.
Again, as was pointed out on another thread, Dernedde had far fewer errors than Darwin (who played on grass his entire OSU career). Dernedde also had two fewer chances accepted per game (3-5). Darwin had more errors, yes, but he also made 67% more plays per game than Dernedde, and that is a huge number.
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Post by justdamwin on Jul 16, 2023 15:18:53 GMT -8
Hainline? He is playing in the Cape Cod League for Hyannis. Hainline was All-Pac-12 Honorable Mention last year. Hyannis has them as their starting shortstop most games, some time at second. Four errors in 15 games, though, is not a great record there at short. We were very spoiled with Dernedde. I am guessing that Hainline and Trosky (And maybe Guerra? And Dernedde, if he comes back?) are going to battle it out for shortstop. Bazz is at Cape Cod at Falmouth. An interesting note on Bazz is that he has played more games in left than he has at second. He also has played four games at third, which is........interesting. Things seemed to be going ok there, but Bazz had two errors at third in the first inning in a game a week ago and has not played at third since. Bazz plays, where Bazz fits whether that be second or left (or maybe third?) next year. I was curious about Bazzana, but thanks for the info on Hainline too. If Dernedde doesn’t return, I like Trosky at short. He showed he is capable of holding down that position. And my gut still tells me that Bazz at second is a no-brainer. He’s fast and he has two years’ experience there already. Who do you have at first? Dallas Macias will get a look on the left side of the infield. Krieg or Guerra at first. |
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? Friends in Las Vegas say Martell is a stud hitter and very good Catcher.
