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Post by nuclearbeaver on May 30, 2023 20:02:40 GMT -8
Sand fields are best. There's like 3 movies about it.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 30, 2023 21:23:04 GMT -8
The problem at Goss was never the outfield, after the 1998 stadium construction leveled the surface and improved the drainage.
It was the infield, which had to be tarped, untarped, tarped, etc., before turf, and became unplayable much faster than the OF.
Grass fields are great in some parts of the country. In our wet winter/spring environment, turf is better.
I really DNGAFF about what they do at LSU. Or about LSU in general.
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Post by irimi on May 30, 2023 21:24:49 GMT -8
Naivebeav was worried if some rain passed through Baton Rouge we wouldn’t be able to play the regional because apparently LSU is poor and can’t afford an artificial surface. I corrected him and let home know that LSU is ready for the rains if they come, and play will only be interrupted just like if it was in Corvallis. You guys stop playing for rain? Is this a hurricane rain situation? If we waited for rain in Corvallis you might as well cancel March. Still surprised no one has informed civiltiger that we’ve played in snow too. Oh, we should just schedule LSU for a friendly match at Goss in February. They’d be bundled up in their parkas out on the field. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 31, 2023 9:36:50 GMT -8
Still surprised no one has informed civiltiger that we’ve played in snow too. Oh, we should just schedule LSU for a friendly match at Goss in February. They’d be bundled up in their parkas out on the field. We could certainly invite LSU or any SEC team, but as usual, they won’t have the balls to travel outside of their comfort zone i.e. only NC games at home or within 100 miles of home. LSU played four games in Austin and Round Rock, about 400 miles away from Baton Rouge. LSU played Iowa, Kansas State, and Sam Houston in Round Rock and played a road game against Texas in Austin. Otherwise, yeah, all non-conference games within 100 miles of Baton Rouge. |
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Post by rgeorge on May 31, 2023 11:16:45 GMT -8
We could certainly invite LSU or any SEC team, but as usual, they won’t have the balls to travel outside of their comfort zone i.e. only NC games at home or within 100 miles of home. LSU played four games in Austin and Round Rock, about 400 miles away from Baton Rouge. LSU played Iowa, Kansas State, and Sam Houston in Round Rock and played a road game against Texas in Austin. Otherwise, yeah, all non-conference games within 100 miles of Baton Rouge. For many on here I'm not sure what the big issue is for where and who people play?! It's a 56 game schedule (for OSU 26 NC) to fill and fit a travel budget. It is not like OSU travels all over to play elite competition. OSU plays in Arizona (sometimes Cali... Cal Poly this year) early on because of the weather in Oregon. It is a necessity for OSU, not LSU or SEC teams. Other than that... Seattle when OSU was already in town for UW; Grand Canyon when OSU was already in PHX; @ UP in Hillsboro So... how is OSU's travel so much different?? OSU had 21 away contests and 15 were part of Pac12 play. I get the hate on the SEC, but they have simply been consistently better in in all three major men's sports. And, other than their stupid (8) game conference football schedule are pretty similar to our scheduling. More than most want to admit in baseball. |
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Post by hottubbeaver on May 31, 2023 11:46:58 GMT -8
LSU played four games in Austin and Round Rock, about 400 miles away from Baton Rouge. LSU played Iowa, Kansas State, and Sam Houston in Round Rock and played a road game against Texas in Austin. Otherwise, yeah, all non-conference games within 100 miles of Baton Rouge. For many on here I'm not sure what the big issue is for where and who people play?! It's a 56 game schedule (for OSU 26 NC) to fill and fit a travel budget. It is not like OSU travels all over to play elite competition. OSU plays in Arizona (sometimes Cali... Cal Poly this year) early on because of the weather in Oregon. It is a necessity for OSU, not LSU or SEC teams. Other than that... Seattle when OSU was already in town for UW; Grand Canyon when OSU was already in PHX; @ UP in Hillsboro So... how is OSU's travel so much different?? OSU had 21 away contests and 15 were part of Pac12 play. I get the hate on the SEC, but they have simply been consistently better in in all three major men's sports. And, other than their stupid (8) game conference football schedule are pretty similar to our scheduling. More than most want to admit in baseball. I think the difference is in the subjective aspects of RPI, Rankings, and seedings. When any conference is given pole position in those and then play primarily inside a closed circuit, it's a self feeding loop. You lose a game and it's because the other team was so great (inflated rank) so both receive a bump in rankings. Why subject the man behind the curtain to exposure by playing on the road especially vs decent OOC teams who might expose the 24 inch yardstick for what it is. I do agree about travel budgets and I will add the lost gate revenues by playing away games, one's you really don't have to play. |
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Post by rgeorge on May 31, 2023 12:41:50 GMT -8
For many on here I'm not sure what the big issue is for where and who people play?! It's a 56 game schedule (for OSU 26 NC) to fill and fit a travel budget. It is not like OSU travels all over to play elite competition. OSU plays in Arizona (sometimes Cali... Cal Poly this year) early on because of the weather in Oregon. It is a necessity for OSU, not LSU or SEC teams. Other than that... Seattle when OSU was already in town for UW; Grand Canyon when OSU was already in PHX; @ UP in Hillsboro So... how is OSU's travel so much different?? OSU had 21 away contests and 15 were part of Pac12 play. I get the hate on the SEC, but they have simply been consistently better in in all three major men's sports. And, other than their stupid (8) game conference football schedule are pretty similar to our scheduling. More than most want to admit in baseball. I think the difference is in the subjective aspects of RPI, Rankings, and seedings. When any conference is given pole position in those and then play primarily inside a closed circuit, it's a self feeding loop. You lose a game and it's because the other team was so great (inflated rank) so both receive a bump in rankings. Why subject the man behind the curtain to exposure by playing on the road especially vs decent OOC teams who might expose the 24 inch yardstick for what it is. I do agree about travel budgets and I will add the lost gate revenues by playing away games, one's you really don't have to play. The "pole position" is there because they are a better conference. Baseball wise the Pac12 is a 3rd or 4th level RPI, ELO, etc conference. Lately it has been Stanford, OSU, UCLA... then rotate Oregon, UW, Zona... and then the bottom 5-6. But, the reality is that the SEC plays a much tougher conference slate and has a lot more options near to schedule NC games. Outside of Pac12 play, OSU doesn't have many quality NC options near by. The football complaint of 8 vs 9 conference games in the SEC might give teams another tough game/potential loss, but also a nice bump in the RPI. Pick your poison. But, for now the SEC has no reason to change how they run things. And, I'm not sure what "new" rating system would rally change that??? |
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Post by NativeBeav on May 31, 2023 13:02:08 GMT -8
The problem at Goss was never the outfield, after the 1998 stadium construction leveled the surface and improved the drainage. It was the infield, which had to be tarped, untarped, tarped, etc., before turf, and became unplayable much faster than the OF. Grass fields are great in some parts of the country. In our wet winter/spring environment, turf is better. I really DNGAFF about what they do at LSU. Or about LSU in general. Funny anecdote - when Toro came out with their first commercial grade mulching mowers many years ago, they trialed them around the country with key landscape maintenance companies. Feedback they got was most every region around the country loved them - except in the PNW. The grass was/is usually so wet here, all it did was quickly clog up the mowers, creating a big mess. Since most of the country approved - they went ahead and started producing them. Not super popular in the PNW, unless you mow about every three days in the spring  |
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Post by obf on May 31, 2023 13:59:33 GMT -8
The REAL conspiracy is... why does the NCAA Selection committee hate LSU so much?!?!?!? The poor tigers got the BEAVERS put in their regional! The bottom three regionals seem easier on the host that the #5 national seeds regional  |
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Post by hottubbeaver on May 31, 2023 14:33:45 GMT -8
I think the difference is in the subjective aspects of RPI, Rankings, and seedings. When any conference is given pole position in those and then play primarily inside a closed circuit, it's a self feeding loop. You lose a game and it's because the other team was so great (inflated rank) so both receive a bump in rankings. Why subject the man behind the curtain to exposure by playing on the road especially vs decent OOC teams who might expose the 24 inch yardstick for what it is. I do agree about travel budgets and I will add the lost gate revenues by playing away games, one's you really don't have to play. The "pole position" is there because they are a better conference. Baseball wise the Pac12 is a 3rd or 4th level RPI, ELO, etc conference. Lately it has been Stanford, OSU, UCLA... then rotate Oregon, UW, Zona... and then the bottom 5-6. But, the reality is that the SEC plays a much tougher conference slate and has a lot more options near to schedule NC games. Outside of Pac12 play, OSU doesn't have many quality NC options near by. The football complaint of 8 vs 9 conference games in the SEC might give teams another tough game/potential loss, but also a nice bump in the RPI. Pick your poison. But, for now the SEC has no reason to change how they run things. And, I'm not sure what "new" rating system would rally change that??? The Pac 12 has won the most CWS titles without ever being handed anywhere near as many seeds going in. That would actually be an interesting stat to see, number of seeds in tournament by conferences all time. The SEC figured out the direction things were going over 15 years ago. Become big enough and make enough lavish lifestyles dependent upon your success, you'll be too big to fail. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 31, 2023 14:36:13 GMT -8
UConn has won more NCAA men's basketball titles in this century (4) than the SEC combined (3).
The ACC has won 9.
The SEC has not won an NCAA men's basketball title since 2012. It has not been "consistently better" in men's basketball, which I assume is included in your "three major sports." Not by any stretch of the imagination.
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Post by rgeorge on May 31, 2023 20:27:16 GMT -8
UConn has won more NCAA men's basketball titles in this century (4) than the SEC combined (3). The ACC has won 9. The SEC has not won an NCAA men's basketball title since 2012. It has not been "consistently better" in men's basketball, which I assume is included in your "three major sports." Not by any stretch of the imagination. Consistently better isn't just marked by NC trophies. As the discussion was "conferences", and a single team isn't that. SEC vs Big East in hoops? Really? SEC vs any other conference in the 3 major sports overall... not close. As far as baseball I think 24 of the titles were well before there was a Pac12. I think since 2000 (?) the SEC has almost twice as many titles. But you do you. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 31, 2023 21:25:42 GMT -8
UConn has won more NCAA men's basketball titles in this century (4) than the SEC combined (3). The ACC has won 9. The SEC has not won an NCAA men's basketball title since 2012. It has not been "consistently better" in men's basketball, which I assume is included in your "three major sports." Not by any stretch of the imagination. Consistently better isn't just marked by NC trophies. As the discussion was "conferences", and a single team isn't that. SEC vs Big East in hoops? Really? SEC vs any other conference in the 3 major sports overall... not close. As far as baseball I think 24 of the titles were well before there was a Pac12. I think since 2000 (?) the SEC has almost twice as many titles. But you do you. You said all three major sports. Football, yes. Baseball, probably. Men's basketball, no. Not by a long shot. Five different ACC teams have won titles in this century. Duke. North Carolina. Virgina. Maryland (ACC at the time), Louisville. The ACC took second another three times. The ACC puts the SEC to shame in this century in men's basketball. Unable to admit you are wrong. You keep doing you. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jun 1, 2023 5:27:51 GMT -8
Consistently better isn't just marked by NC trophies. As the discussion was "conferences", and a single team isn't that. SEC vs Big East in hoops? Really? SEC vs any other conference in the 3 major sports overall... not close. As far as baseball I think 24 of the titles were well before there was a Pac12. I think since 2000 (?) the SEC has almost twice as many titles. But you do you. You said all three major sports. Football, yes. Baseball, probably. Men's basketball, no. Not by a long shot. Five different ACC teams have won titles in this century. Duke. North Carolina. Virgina. Maryland (ACC at the time), Louisville. The ACC took second another three times. The ACC puts the SEC to shame in this century in men's basketball. Unable to admit you are wrong. You keep doing you. Well, the SEC has been consistently better than the PAC 12 in basketball. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 1, 2023 9:36:58 GMT -8
You said all three major sports. Football, yes. Baseball, probably. Men's basketball, no. Not by a long shot. Five different ACC teams have won titles in this century. Duke. North Carolina. Virgina. Maryland (ACC at the time), Louisville. The ACC took second another three times. The ACC puts the SEC to shame in this century in men's basketball. Unable to admit you are wrong. You keep doing you. Well, the SEC has been consistently better than the PAC 12 in basketball. It certainly has. But that wasn't Skullcap's statement. He said the SEC was the best men's basketball conference. In this century, it hasn't been. Not even close. |
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