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May 6, 2023 10:22:29 GMT -8
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Post by flyfishinbeav on May 6, 2023 10:22:29 GMT -8
Currently 36 on warren nolan
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 6, 2023 20:59:19 GMT -8
Up to 31.
For RPI purposes:
The Good:
Oregon State beat Utah, California beat UCLA, Cal Poly beat Davis, Coppin State beat Long Island, Minnesota beat Michigan, Oregon beat USC, San Diego beat BYU, Santa Barbara beat RIverside, Stanford beat Arizona State, Washington beat Wazzu, and Grand Canyon beat Tarleton State twice.
The Bad:
UNLV beat New Mexico, New Mexico State beat Seattle, and Fresno State beat Nevada.
The Ugly:
Air Force 5 - Arizona 0 in Tucson. Yuck!
A lot of topline good. One big bottom-line bad, but it all worked well enough to move Oregon State up five spots. Not a terrible spot to be in. Definitely need to win at least seven of these final nine and may need more than that. The next six are hyper-critical, because little good will happen against Western Carolina.
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May 7, 2023 3:33:26 GMT -8
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on May 7, 2023 3:33:26 GMT -8
Why did we schedule a series like this at the end knowing it could kill the ol RPI?
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Post by beaver1989 on May 7, 2023 4:08:42 GMT -8
Why did we schedule a series like this at the end knowing it could kill the ol RPI? With an uneven amount of teams(11) that play baseball in the conference, the choice is don't play any games or sometimes schedule an inferior opponent. I'm in favor of playing games and staying in game shape regardless of the RPI. I actually like playing a 30 game conference schedule even with the problematic scheduling, because we play everybody in conference .(5 home & 5 away series) In the old Pac 10 schedules, you would miss a team & play a 24 game schedule If Colorado added baseball, the uneven conference scheduling would go away, but we could get stuck playing Colorado with a crappy RPI instead of a conference team with a better RPI. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on May 7, 2023 6:19:19 GMT -8
Why did we schedule a series like this at the end knowing it could kill the ol RPI? Cuz we didn't expect to start 1-5 in conference? |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on May 7, 2023 7:42:59 GMT -8
Why did we schedule a series like this at the end knowing it could kill the ol RPI? Cuz we didn't expect to start 1-5 in conference? Pretty sure one of our former assistant AD's is the AD at WCU now. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 7, 2023 8:42:11 GMT -8
Why did we schedule a series like this at the end knowing it could kill the ol RPI? With an uneven amount of teams(11) that play baseball in the conference, the choice is don't play any games or sometimes schedule an inferior opponent. I'm in favor of playing games and staying in game shape regardless of the RPI. I actually like playing a 30 game conference schedule even with the problematic scheduling, because we play everybody in conference .(5 home & 5 away series) In the old Pac 10 schedules, you would miss a team & play a 24 game schedule If Colorado added baseball, the uneven conference scheduling would go away, but we could get stuck playing Colorado with a crappy RPI instead of a conference team with a better RPI. The Pac-12 is not the only conference with an odd number of teams. There were lots of choices to make. Here is a list that I compiled, during the Cal series: This year, the non-exhaustive list of teams that Oregon State could schedule the final weekend are: Baylor, Cal State Bakersfield, Fairleigh Dickinson, Fresno, Hartford, Illinois, McNeese, Miami (Ohio), Saint Mary's, Saint Peter's, San Diego, Tennessee-Martin, UMBC, VMI, and Western Carolina. Among those teams, Western Carolina is in the middle of teams that you could schedule. It is a not a great list, but there are at least seven better than Western Carolina there. If Illinois and Oregon State were smart, they would ditch Tennessee-Martin and Western Carolina and let those two teams play each other and play three at a neutral site. Omaha? That would be entertaining. But it can't happen. Creighton has a home series that weekend and the Storm Chasers play the Mud Hens. Could play in Kansas City. The Royals have an 11-day road-stand in that stretch and would have a day to reset before the Tigers show up. Heaven knows that Kansas City could use the gate. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 7, 2023 9:08:54 GMT -8
Why did we schedule a series like this at the end knowing it could kill the ol RPI? As has been posted several times on other threads, the WCU athletic director (Alex Gary) and deputy athletic director (Kyle Pifer) both worked at OSU directly before going to WCU. So they have plenty of contacts in the athletic department. There are very few independents in college baseball (if any). Virtually everyone is still playing conference games on the third weekend of May. So our choice of opponents is very limited. If you want to blame anyone, blame Colorado for not having baseball and giving the Pac-12 an uneven number of teams. So everyone has to schedule a non-conference weekend series at some point once league play begins. PS: Many people in the department have told me over the years that Kyle Pifer would be an outstanding athletic director, the next time we need one. |
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Post by beaverboilermaker on May 7, 2023 9:42:56 GMT -8
I blame the PAC-12 conference scheduling for not protecting its top teams. The team with the most National titles this century in the SEC would never be given the conference bye on the final week of the season when it is most difficult to schedule. The SEC, ACC, Big12 and Big10 do whatever it takes with scheduling to protect their top teams. The PAC notoriously does the opposite.
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Post by rgeorge on May 7, 2023 10:11:57 GMT -8
I blame the PAC-12 conference scheduling for not protecting its top teams. The team with the most National titles this century in the SEC would never be given the conference bye on the final week of the season when it is most difficult to schedule. The SEC, ACC, Big12 and Big10 do whatever it takes with scheduling to protect their top teams. The PAC notoriously does the opposite. Dude it rotates randomly... there is no effing conspiracy or need to "protect". FFS, come on. As mentioned, other than the OSU connect to WCU there were several other options to schedule better teams for that weekend. The Pac12 has zero to do with who OSU chooses to schedule in the NC openings. I'd guess you'd fault the Pac12 for the (6) earlier games vs teams with higher RPIs than WCU? OSU will likely end up playing at least 18 games vs opponents with RPIs above 150. NONE are Pac12 opponents. When push comes to shove in determining hosts and seeding a NC SOS of 263 will not help. And, that is all on OSU's scheduling. |
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Post by rgeorge on May 7, 2023 10:56:28 GMT -8
I blame the PAC-12 conference scheduling for not protecting its top teams. The team with the most National titles this century in the SEC would never be given the conference bye on the final week of the season when it is most difficult to schedule. The SEC, ACC, Big12 and Big10 do whatever it takes with scheduling to protect their top teams. The PAC notoriously does the opposite. Dude it rotates randomly... there is no effing conspiracy or need to "protect". FFS, come on. As mentioned, other than the OSU connect to WCU there were several other options to schedule better teams for that weekend. The Pac12 has zero to do with who OSU chooses to schedule in the NC openings. I'd guess you'd fault the Pac12 for the (6) earlier games vs teams with higher RPIs than WCU? OSU will likely end up playing at least 18 games vs opponents with RPIs above 150. NONE are Pac12 opponents. When push comes to shove in determining hosts and seeding a NC SOS of 263 will not help. And, that is all on OSU's scheduling. Couldn't find the article in time to edit, so had to quote myself!? Anyway... pretty good, brief summary of how each selection committee can have it's own ideas/legacy such as happened it 2022. Having a winning conference record, RPI lower than 50, good conference tournament showing, AND a strong NC SOS were all part of the 2022 selections. In 2022 some pretty "sure things" were not part of the 64. In 2023?? www.baseballamerica.com/stories/cahill-ncaa-baseball-selection-committees-emphasis-a-surprise-and-an-opportunity/ |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 7, 2023 12:06:15 GMT -8
I blame the PAC-12 conference scheduling for not protecting its top teams. The team with the most National titles this century in the SEC would never be given the conference bye on the final week of the season when it is most difficult to schedule. The SEC, ACC, Big12 and Big10 do whatever it takes with scheduling to protect their top teams. The PAC notoriously does the opposite. Dude it rotates randomly... there is no effing conspiracy or need to "protect". FFS, come on. As mentioned, other than the OSU connect to WCU there were several other options to schedule better teams for that weekend. The Pac12 has zero to do with who OSU chooses to schedule in the NC openings. I'd guess you'd fault the Pac12 for the (6) earlier games vs teams with higher RPIs than WCU? OSU will likely end up playing at least 18 games vs opponents with RPIs above 150. NONE are Pac12 opponents. When push comes to shove in determining hosts and seeding a NC SOS of 263 will not help. And, that is all on OSU's scheduling. Oregon State also played nonconference the final weekend of 2017. For being "random," it does not feel random. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on May 7, 2023 12:56:30 GMT -8
It always comes back to winning series. We take care of biz earlier in year, the WCU series is a welcome cupcake.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 7, 2023 16:09:47 GMT -8
It always comes back to winning series. We take care of biz earlier in year, the WCU series is a welcome cupcake. The real trouble is that Western Carolina would only be the sixth-worst team that Oregon State has played all year. Oregon State played three against woeful Coppin State (8th in the Northeast Conference, four games out of 7th); one against a atrocious Minnesota (10th in the Big Ten, two games out of 8th); two against a very bad Nevada (in the Mountain West cellar), including a loss; two against an almost as bad New Mexico (in 5th in the Mountain West, two games out of 4th), including a loss; and four against extremely mediocre Cal Poly (8th in the Big West), including a loss. More than a quarter of the schedule has been played against cupcakes. You simply cannot do that and lose three and hope to host without a just phenomenal rest of the season. And that has not happened. The Big West does not have a tournament, but the other four teams listed above are so bad that they would not even qualify for their conference tournaments. The Southern Conference invites all eight members, so Western Carolina will have a chance to help out Oregon State's RPI at the end. The other nonconference teams that Oregon State played are all in line for conference tournament berths. Just an awful nonconference slate this year. Western Carolina is not even the worst of it, which is just sad. |
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Post by Judge Smails on May 7, 2023 16:19:50 GMT -8
It always comes back to winning series. We take care of biz earlier in year, the WCU series is a welcome cupcake. The real trouble is that Western Carolina would only be the sixth-worst team that Oregon State has played all year. Oregon State played three against woeful Coppin State (8th in the Northeast Conference, four games out of 7th); one against a atrocious Minnesota (10th in the Big Ten, two games out of 8th); two against a very bad Nevada (in the Mountain West cellar), including a loss; two against an almost as bad New Mexico (in 5th in the Mountain West, two games out of 4th), including a loss; and four against extremely mediocre Cal Poly (8th in the Big West), including a loss. More than a quarter of the schedule has been played against cupcakes. You simply cannot do that and lose three and hope to host without a just phenomenal rest of the season. And that has not happened. The Big West does not have a tournament, but the other four teams listed above are so bad that they would not even qualify for their conference tournaments. The Southern Conference invites all eight members, so Western Carolina will have a chance to help out Oregon State's RPI at the end. The other nonconference teams that Oregon State played are all in line for conference tournament berths. Just an awful nonconference slate this year. Western Carolina is not even the worst of it, which is just sad. Stop bitching about the schedule. The odds of this team making it to Omaha are slim. I expect a lot better results next year. We lost possibly our best hitting OF ever, a solid catcher and a 1st round draft pick ace pitcher. Anyone who thought this team would be better than last year needs a reality check. This is still a very good team that will be competitive in a regional, but we could have played a ridiculously tough NC schedule and still been not in a position to host. And if you say “rain out” one more time when it comes to the Western Carolina series. I’m going to drive down to Arizona and recreate a scene from Breaking Bad. |
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