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Post by beaverinohio on Apr 18, 2023 5:35:47 GMT -8
Anyway, back to the subject at hand. I was surprised to see Miss St as a possible landing spot for Taylor. Were he and D. Davis close? I would have thought he’d want to stay away from anyone from the 3 win team, but maybe they were on the same side of the “fractured” locker room.
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Post by beaverology on Apr 18, 2023 5:55:12 GMT -8
Glenn Taylor Jr is visiting Ohio State today and will visit St John's on April 24 and Texas A&M the following week. Texas A&M boosters smile.  |
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Post by beaverinohio on Apr 18, 2023 6:40:21 GMT -8
Glenn Taylor Jr is visiting Ohio State today and will visit St John's on April 24 and Texas A&M the following week. Texas A&M boosters smile. Thanks for info. St. John’s is interesting. Pitino basically got rid of the whole squad when he came in. Certainly would seem to be plenty of playing time. Ohio State seems to be a bit of a strange landing spot. Holtmann has been recruiting really well, but the had a down year this past one. Not completely familiar with their whole roster, so not sure what he’d be facing at his position as far as playing time. |
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Post by beaverology on Apr 18, 2023 12:28:48 GMT -8
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Post by alwaysorange on Apr 18, 2023 12:52:48 GMT -8
So there were and maybe still are some that believe that Meithof is a good replacement for Taylor. Some even commented that Meithof is a step up. So if that's true why did teams like portland, LIU Brooklyn, and Utah Valley offer Meithof. And teams like Ohio state, st. John's, and Mississippi state offer Taylor. If Meithof is a step up you'd think Ohio state, Mississippi state or st. John's would have long ago signed him up.
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Post by Judge Smails on Apr 18, 2023 13:30:55 GMT -8
So there were and maybe still are some that believe that Meithof is a good replacement for Taylor. Some even commented that Meithof is a step up. So if that's true why did teams like portland, LIU Brooklyn, and Utah Valley offer Meithof. And teams like Ohio state, st. John's, and Mississippi state offer Taylor. If Meithof is a step up you'd think Ohio state, Mississippi state or st. John's would have long ago signed him up. What said that? One person said he was a maybe a step up as a shooter.....not sure anyone said he's a better BB player. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Apr 18, 2023 13:39:36 GMT -8
So there were and maybe still are some that believe that Meithof is a good replacement for Taylor. Some even commented that Meithof is a step up. So if that's true why did teams like portland, LIU Brooklyn, and Utah Valley offer Meithof. And teams like Ohio state, st. John's, and Mississippi state offer Taylor. If Meithof is a step up you'd think Ohio state, Mississippi state or st. John's would have long ago signed him up. Have there been offers to Taylor? I've read "contact". Doesn't really matter. I don't know how Meithof will do, but then again I didn't know how Alitishe, Andela, Silva, Calloo and Silver would do transferring here and they all played an important part in the Elite 8 run and the most successfulOSU team in about 38 years. Did we beat out big name schools to get all of them? Meithof is kind of under the radar and from our region. Coaches all have their recruiting "sources", but they're not all the same sources. It'll be interesting to see if he was a good pickup or not down the line. |
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Post by beaverinohio on Apr 18, 2023 14:56:18 GMT -8
So there were and maybe still are some that believe that Meithof is a good replacement for Taylor. Some even commented that Meithof is a step up. So if that's true why did teams like portland, LIU Brooklyn, and Utah Valley offer Meithof. And teams like Ohio state, st. John's, and Mississippi state offer Taylor. If Meithof is a step up you'd think Ohio state, Mississippi state or st. John's would have long ago signed him up. Have there been offers to Taylor? I've read "contact". Doesn't really matter. I don't know how Meithof will do, but then again I didn't know how Alitishe, Andela, Silva, Calloo and Silver would do transferring here and they all played an important part in the Elite 8 run and the most successfulOSU team in about 38 years. Did we beat out big name schools to get all of them? Meithof is kind of under the radar and from our region. Coaches all have their recruiting "sources", but they're not all the same sources. It'll be interesting to see if he was a good pickup or not down the line. Taylor is starting visits, so it is reasonable to assume it has gone beyond the general contact/interest stage. But if visiting, I’d assume at least general NIL numbers have been discussed and both parties have at least enough interest to incur the cost of a visit both in money and time. To think that Taylor isn’t a more desirable player to schools doesn’t seem very rational to me. Now that doesn’t mean that Meithof can’t be a strong contributor for the Beavers. I’ve only seen a little bit of video on him and he has some offensive skills. My biggest concern from what I saw was whether some of his short and mid-range offense will be as effective with the step up against better talent. We’ll see. The big problem with the Taylor-Meithof “swap” is that Taylor was a reasonably proven scorer at this level. And this isn’t an E8 team that can afford to have to replace that with an unheralded player who is unproven at this level. But it is what it is and hopefully he out plays his “ranking.” With Krass now gone, I prefer to think of Meithof as a replacement for him. I’m perfectly happy with that. And hopefully with the still open scholarship WT brings in a bit more proven player who combined with Meithof give us a net gain (or at least equal to) over what Taylor and Krass’ combined production would have been. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Apr 18, 2023 15:59:52 GMT -8
I kinda felt Krass would move on for more playing time. He was actually better than I expected in that he played pretty under control, I just don't see him getting big minutes at a P5 school.
I'd wondered if Taylor would stick around, to me he seems perfect for a good transition playing team, not so perfect for a slower plodding/methodical offense, which is largely what we'replaying currently. I was kinda surprised when he immediately said he'd be back.
In the right spots they could both increase their playing time, probably/maybe even see more wins than the Beavers produce the next couple years. If they can find better playing or NIL situations, good for them.
There's a fair chance we aren't done with transfers, in or out. There's 4 freshmen I really want to see stay, and if the 2 freshmen we have coming next season pan out we'll be in decent shape for the future. Hopefully it's not a complete turnover after those 6, I'd really like to see Dexter and others to return.
Lots of teams are losing players to the porthole, seems to be the way of things these days.
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Post by beaverinohio on Apr 19, 2023 6:05:56 GMT -8
Yep, the portal is the Wild West. Fans need to adjust their thinking and not automatically go all ballistic on the coach cuz “he can’t keep anyone” etc. Just about every school (if not all) has transfers now. That doesn’t mean a HC gets a complete pass, but have to look at the net gain/loss as well as overall ability to construct a roster. NIL has set things on its ear, and when you bring in money (or at least more of it and more in the open), players’ families and “camps” become more vocal and influential. Not sure how much the latter played with this year’s departures, but certainly have to think NIL was a key part of Taylor’s transfer decision.
To illustrate how crazy the latter has gotten. Illinois has had 6 transfers this year. One was during the season (parents played a big part — frosh who lost starting PG spot). One was a frosh guard who was regular part of the rotation (that was a combination of things but NIL was front and center). One was soph forward in rotation who just really needed a change (heard he might actually be getting less NIL at Georgia than he got this year.). Fourth was backup center who wasn’t very good. They took a flyer on him out of high school and didn’t develop much. Lot of people thought he’d transfer sooner but word is he wanted that degree from Illinois. Now has it after 3 years and will likely end up at a mid- to low-major. Hats off to him for playing the system well.
The last two transfers are walkons. Didn’t even know they could enter the portal, but I guess it’s a good way to let people know. But here is the kicker. One of them was a frosh guard this year. He’s an in-state kid, played on state championship team, and had a couple of NAIA offers. A reason he is transferring (not sure if it is only one or even main one) is because his dad is butt hurt because Underwood is bringing in a scholarship guard from I think South Dakota as a walkon. First walkons dad is mad his kid got recruited over by another walkon. Can’t make this stuff up.
OK, I’ve digressed enough. Go Beavs.
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Post by justheretoread on Apr 19, 2023 9:43:38 GMT -8
Taylor was inconsistent. Flashes of greatness at times and very athletic, but too often just put his head down and drove like a madman to the basket. Maybe I had a blind spot, but I never saw him play within the flow of our offense (assuming we actually have a designed offense lol).
We don’t necessarily have the talent to absorb this loss with no short term impact, but personally I would have been much more discouraged if one of our frosh left.
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Post by alwaysorange on Apr 19, 2023 11:30:32 GMT -8
Taylor was inconsistent. Flashes of greatness at times and very athletic, but too often just put his head down and drove like a madman to the basket. Maybe I had a blind spot, but I never saw him play within the flow of our offense (assuming we actually have a designed offense lol). We don’t necessarily have the talent to absorb this loss with no short term impact, but personally I would have been much more discouraged if one of our frosh left. I agree Taylor was inconsistent. But we don't have anybody that can replace him and do as well or better than him. For an 11th place team that's a big problem. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Apr 19, 2023 11:37:32 GMT -8
Taylor was inconsistent. Flashes of greatness at times and very athletic, but too often just put his head down and drove like a madman to the basket. Maybe I had a blind spot, but I never saw him play within the flow of our offense (assuming we actually have a designed offense lol). We don’t necessarily have the talent to absorb this loss with no short term impact, but personally I would have been much more discouraged if one of our frosh left. I agree Taylor was inconsistent. But we don't have anybody that can replace him and do as well or better than him. For an 11th place team that's a big problem. The question is, was freshman Taylor as good as sophomore Taylor, and better than freshman Pope, Rataj and Bilodeau, and others, respectively? If you believe Taylor didn't improve between seasons and was better his first season than everyone else this season, and that those remaining won't improve... then yes, we don't have anyone to replace him. |
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Post by alwaysorange on Apr 19, 2023 11:58:46 GMT -8
Freshman Taylor didn't play much. Last year he played ok on a crappy team, this year he was the 2nd best player on the team.
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 19, 2023 12:04:39 GMT -8
Freshman Taylor didn't play much. Last year he played ok on a crappy team, this year he was the 2nd best player on the team. Bottom line... inferior rosters can't afford to lose a starter! This is not a program where there is talent pushing talent for floor time. The talent was already lacking, losing experienced depth is a huge deal for a roster like OSU's. |
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