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Post by rgeorge on Apr 6, 2023 15:01:38 GMT -8
Speaking of definitions... and those that fittingly represent: Dogge...
1) an ordinary dog; 2) (derogatory... which fits most of the moniker's posts) a worthless or detestable person; wretch. Speaking of "emotional issues that should be addressed by a qualified professional"... yikes! The poster child would know. Was I speaking to you? Nope. Why are you so defensive of him? Is there a relationship we don't know about? Ha🤣🤣 So, first "defensive"?🤪 Ok curious, how many of your posts are posters "speaking to you"? Here's a better question. How many/% of your posts offer any significant information WITHOUT the lame attempts at personal attacks, or insults? |
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Post by ag87 on Apr 6, 2023 15:08:04 GMT -8
In 1984, the Blazers lost the coin flip to the Rockets, who picked Olajuwon. The Blazers then chose Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan, Charles Barkley, Alvin Robertson, Otis Thorpe, and John Stockton. The Blazers also went Mychal Thompson with the #1 overall pick over Larry Bird in the 1978 NBA Draft. Your missing one more. 1972 1st pick....took Larue Martin over Bob McAdoo, Paul Westphal and Dr. J. As a glass half full guy, I see the LaRue Martin pick as the reason the Blazers were able to draft Bill Walton. If they drafted McAdoo, the Blazers would have been a little better and not had the first pick for the '74 draft. As a side note, the 5th pick in the 1972 draft was Fred Boyd. Where did he play his college ball at? In the 1978 draft, the Celtics drafted Larry Bird as a junior (but he was draft eligible). Bird played for Indiana State in the 1978/79 season and then went to the NBA. I think the Celtics signed him only a few days before they lost their rights and he would be entered in the 1979 draft. If the Blazers picked him in 1978 over Mychal Thompson the fans would have burnt down Memorial Coliseum. |
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Post by speakthetruth on Apr 6, 2023 16:03:28 GMT -8
Found this interesting. Earlier there was a comment that certain pac12 coaches should be canned because there overall record wasn't very good. The coaches named were Haase of Stanford, Hopkins of Washington, smith of wazoo, and fox at cal.
Looking at each of these coaches records against tinkle led oregon state. Haase is 8-3, Hopkins 7-3, smith 5-1, and fox 2-4. Overall record 22-11 against osu. If you want to use the money excuse ok Washington and Stanford have a boatload more money but wazoo? Interesting that the record is 33% against these four teams which is just a hair under tinkles overall pac12 record. I'm sure there is an excuse we can't beat even wazoo.
And yes jdogge more facts to show coaching is a problem. Call it hatred if it makes you feel good. And since you made a comment that I might be having some kind of relationship with another poster soon I may invite you to my coming out party. But be forewarned I think you are hot. Lol.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 6, 2023 16:20:54 GMT -8
In 1984, the Blazers lost the coin flip to the Rockets, who picked Olajuwon. The Blazers then chose Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan, Charles Barkley, Alvin Robertson, Otis Thorpe, and John Stockton. The Blazers also went Mychal Thompson with the #1 overall pick over Larry Bird in the 1978 NBA Draft. Your missing one more. 1972 1st pick....took Larue Martin over Bob McAdoo, Paul Westphal and Dr. J. Dr. J would have been a wasted pick. His agent screwed him, and he had to play for the Virginia Squires, who sold his rights to the Nets. The Nets then sold Dr. J to the Sixers, in order to afford to be able to enter the NBA. |
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Post by bennysdentist on Apr 6, 2023 16:50:02 GMT -8
This thread has gone way sideways. Maybe time for admins to lock it down.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 6, 2023 17:04:43 GMT -8
Found this interesting. Earlier there was a comment that certain pac12 coaches should be canned because there overall record wasn't very good. The coaches named were Haase of Stanford, Hopkins of Washington, smith of wazoo, and fox at cal. Looking at each of these coaches records against tinkle led oregon state. Haase is 8-3, Hopkins 7-3, smith 5-1, and fox 2-4. Overall record 22-11 against osu. If you want to use the money excuse ok Washington and Stanford have a boatload more money but wazoo? Interesting that the record is 33% against these four teams which is just a hair under tinkles overall pac12 record. I'm sure there is an excuse we can't beat even wazoo. And yes jdogge more facts to show coaching is a problem. Call it hatred if it makes you feel good. And since you made a comment that I might be having some kind of relationship with another poster soon I may invite you to my coming out party. But be forewarned I think you are hot. Lol. Hopkins 7-4, and Fox 3-6. 23-13 against Oregon State. Tinkle has been terrible against the Arizona schools, so I am going to ignore them. Since Tinkle started, Oregon State's record against: California 8-10 Colorado 7-11 Oregon 7-13 Stanford 4-10 UCLA 5-11 USC 6-12 Utah 8-8 Washington 6-9 Wazzu 8-6 If I remove years that I believe that everyone can agree are terrible, I get: California 6-5 Colorado 6-6 Oregon 7-6Stanford 4-5 UCLA 5-6USC 5-7Utah 6-4 Washington 5-5 Wazzu 8-2
When Oregon State is not terrible, Tinkle has beat California, Oregon, Utah, and Wazzu and split with Colorado and Washington. I am concerned about Kyle Smith, though. Wazzu may have a great coach there. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 6, 2023 17:15:57 GMT -8
Your missing one more. 1972 1st pick....took Larue Martin over Bob McAdoo, Paul Westphal and Dr. J. As a glass half full guy, I see the LaRue Martin pick as the reason the Blazers were able to draft Bill Walton. If they drafted McAdoo, the Blazers would have been a little better and not had the first pick for the '74 draft. As a side note, the 5th pick in the 1972 draft was Fred Boyd. Where did he play his college ball at? In the 1978 draft, the Celtics drafted Larry Bird as a junior (but he was draft eligible). Bird played for Indiana State in the 1978/79 season and then went to the NBA. I think the Celtics signed him only a few days before they lost their rights and he would be entered in the 1979 draft. If the Blazers picked him in 1978 over Mychal Thompson the fans would have burnt down Memorial Coliseum. Freddie Boyd played his basketball for Oregon State. He was one of the four Paul Valenti holdovers, who played on Ralph Miller's first two teams. Bird almost did not sign for the Celtics, because Red Auerbach was trying to low-ball Bird. I have no indication that any other team would have tried to to what the Celtics did to Bird. After Bird signed, the NBA implemented the Bird Collegiate Rule to make sure something like that would never happen again. |
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Post by beaverinohio on Apr 17, 2023 2:27:54 GMT -8
Anyone heard anything about where he might be heading?
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 17, 2023 8:48:36 GMT -8
Anyone heard anything about where he might be heading? Hopefully, he changes his mind and comes back. There is some chatter that he might wind up somewhere in the Big 12, but he is not being actively recruited by anyone that I know of. |
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Post by beaverinohio on Apr 17, 2023 17:16:04 GMT -8
Anyone heard anything about where he might be heading? Hopefully, he changes his mind and comes back. There is some chatter that he might wind up somewhere in the Big 12, but he is not being actively recruited by anyone that I know of. Just saw this. If I knew he was coming to my town, I would have been outside their basketball facility with a sign saying Come Back to Corvallis. Well at least it was a cruddy day here weather wise. |
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Post by beaverinohio on Apr 17, 2023 20:10:17 GMT -8
So I asked one of the resident insiders on the Illini forum if he knew anything about the Taylor recruitment. Not sure exactly who the guy is or how he is so tied into the college basketball world, but his info is usually pretty good.
He obviously knew about the Ohio State visit. He knows Miss St is in on home too. Also mentioned UT-Arlington. Seems like would be a bit of a long shot, but I guess Glenn knows Jeremy Pope, who was just hired as an assistant, very well.
On a side note, totally unsolicited, he wondered how Tinkle still has the job.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 17, 2023 20:10:17 GMT -8
Hopefully, he changes his mind and comes back. There is some chatter that he might wind up somewhere in the Big 12, but he is not being actively recruited by anyone that I know of. Just saw this. If I knew he was coming to my town, I would have been outside their basketball facility with a sign saying Come Back to Corvallis. Well at least it was a cruddy day here weather wise. That sucks. I wish that I knew what changed his mind about coming back next Fall. He was kind of a square peg here, but I thought that he definitely had a big role moving forward. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 17, 2023 20:28:42 GMT -8
So I asked one of the resident insiders on the Illini forum if he knew anything about the Taylor recruitment. Not sure exactly who the guy is or how he is so tied into the college basketball world, but his info is usually pretty good. He obviously knew about the Ohio State visit. He knows Miss St is in on home too. Also mentioned UT-Arlington. Seems like would be a bit of a long shot, but I guess Glenn knows Jeremy Pope, who was just hired as an assistant, very well. On a side note, totally unsolicited, he wondered how Tinkle still has the job. Ask him how many seasons they gave Bruce Weber after he got Illinois to the National Championship Game. Or ask him how stupid he felt running off Weber for John Groce and then watching Weber build Kansas State into something out of nothing. Illinois fans should know better than most about chasing off good coaches during rebuilds. |
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Post by beaverinohio on Apr 17, 2023 22:05:02 GMT -8
So I asked one of the resident insiders on the Illini forum if he knew anything about the Taylor recruitment. Not sure exactly who the guy is or how he is so tied into the college basketball world, but his info is usually pretty good. He obviously knew about the Ohio State visit. He knows Miss St is in on home too. Also mentioned UT-Arlington. Seems like would be a bit of a long shot, but I guess Glenn knows Jeremy Pope, who was just hired as an assistant, very well. On a side note, totally unsolicited, he wondered how Tinkle still has the job. Ask him how many seasons they gave Bruce Weber after he got Illinois to the National Championship Game. Or ask him how stupid he felt running off Weber for John Groce and then watching Weber build Kansas State into something out of nothing. Illinois fans should know better than most about chasing off good coaches during rebuilds. Dude, first relax. Second, I’m not sure where you get your info from. Third, he didn’t run Weber off so no reason for him to feel stupid. I don’t need to ask him how many years Weber was there after he took them to NC game (with primarily all Bill Self recruits I might add). It was 7. They made the tourney the next 2 years after that big run. Did Tinkle do that? You know what Weber never did during those subsequent 7 years? Win only 3 games in a season — nor only just 11. As to Weber being “run off,” while it is true he never bottomed out, the program had stagnated. I liked Weber just fine (nice guy if not a little odd, pretty good Xs and Os coach, not the greatest recruiter), but I wasn’t broken up about him being let go. But everyone knew Groce was not a good hire from the get-go. Blame that on the AD, who also made a real bad football HC hire during his tenure there. And not sure what you mean about chasing good coaches off during rebuilds. Neither Weber nor Groce went through rebuilds, they just had the team mired in relative mediocrity. By the time they got rid of Groce the program was in need of a rebuild and they’ve given Underwood the time to do that. But my favorite thing from your post is that Weber built Kansas State out of nothing. Frank Martin preceded Weber and never won less than 20 games and took them to 4 NCAAs — including an Elite Eight — and an NIT in his 5 years at K-State. Do you just write stuff hoping no one knows different? Cuz I’d think being an Oregon State basketball fan, you’d have a much better grasp of what nothing is. |
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 17, 2023 23:06:23 GMT -8
Ask him how many seasons they gave Bruce Weber after he got Illinois to the National Championship Game. Or ask him how stupid he felt running off Weber for John Groce and then watching Weber build Kansas State into something out of nothing. Illinois fans should know better than most about chasing off good coaches during rebuilds. Dude, first relax. Second, I’m not sure where you get your info from. Third, he didn’t run Weber off so no reason for him to feel stupid. I don’t need to ask him how many years Weber was there after he took them to NC game (with primarily all Bill Self recruits I might add). It was 7. They made the tourney the next 2 years after that big run. Did Tinkle do that? You know what Weber never did during those subsequent 7 years? Win only 3 games in a season — nor only just 11. As to Weber being “run off,” while it is true he never bottomed out, the program had stagnated. I liked Weber just fine (nice guy if not a little odd, pretty good Xs and Os coach, not the greatest recruiter), but I wasn’t broken up about him being let go. But everyone knew Groce was not a good hire from the get-go. Blame that on the AD, who also made a real bad football HC hire during his tenure there. And not sure what you mean about chasing good coaches off during rebuilds. Neither Weber nor Groce went through rebuilds, they just had the team mired in relative mediocrity. By the time they got rid of Groce the program was in need of a rebuild and they’ve given Underwood the time to do that. But my favorite thing from your post is that Weber built Kansas State out of nothing. Frank Martin preceded Weber and never won less than 20 games and took them to 4 NCAAs — including an Elite Eight — and an NIT in his 5 years at K-State. Do you just write stuff hoping no one knows different? Cuz I’d think being an Oregon State basketball fan, you’d have a much better grasp of what nothing is. THANK YOU. Sometimes the made-up BS on this site to support an obvious bias just amazes me! |
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