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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Mar 20, 2023 12:45:26 GMT -8
"Your ability won't help if you don't have availability". That is my point about Rochelin and Choi. If you can't get on the court healthy,how can you help osu win games? I'm thinking coaches are technically not supposed to take injury (or even performance) into the figuring if a scholarship is renewed. I guess at some point you offer the kid a medical retirement, which I think the schools can honor the scholarship without affecting roster limits. I kinda wonder if any of our kids that did medically retire wanted to play but wanted to finish school here so they took it, or if any transfers out were injured and offered "retirement" but still transfered to play elsewhere. I'd bet both have happened in some sport here at some point. Things might get a little sticky if the kid wants to play, at the same school.
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Post by qbeaver on Mar 20, 2023 13:07:18 GMT -8
"Your ability won't help if you don't have availability". That is my point about Rochelin and Choi. If you can't get on the court healthy,how can you help osu win games? I'm thinking coaches are technically not supposed to take injury (or even performance) into the figuring if a scholarship is renewed. I guess at some point you offer the kid a medical retirement, which I think the schools can honor the scholarship without affecting roster limits. I kinda wonder if any of our kids that did medically retire wanted to play but wanted to finish school here so they took it, or if any transfers out were injured and offered "retirement" but still transfered to play elsewhere. I'd bet both have happened in some sport here at some point. Things might get a little sticky if the kid wants to play, at the same school. Im not saying to not renew a player's scholarship. In football,we have seen players medically retire and stay in school as a student. Choi had been hurt for years. Will he ever be healthy enough to play consistently? Idk
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Mar 20, 2023 13:25:17 GMT -8
I'm thinking coaches are technically not supposed to take injury (or even performance) into the figuring if a scholarship is renewed. I guess at some point you offer the kid a medical retirement, which I think the schools can honor the scholarship without affecting roster limits. I kinda wonder if any of our kids that did medically retire wanted to play but wanted to finish school here so they took it, or if any transfers out were injured and offered "retirement" but still transfered to play elsewhere. I'd bet both have happened in some sport here at some point. Things might get a little sticky if the kid wants to play, at the same school. If performance or injury can't play into whether a scholarship is renewed, what praytell can? athleticollege.com/8-ways-a-coach-can-take-away-your-athletic-scholarship/My thinking on the performance and injury situation is, does a coach want to be known as the guy who'll dump a kid because of an injury or not being "good" enough? My guess is there's a fine line to walk in there somewhere, especially in a sport that offers only 13 scholarships.
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Post by beaverinohio on Mar 20, 2023 14:51:53 GMT -8
If performance or injury can't play into whether a scholarship is renewed, what praytell can? athleticollege.com/8-ways-a-coach-can-take-away-your-athletic-scholarship/My thinking on the performance and injury situation is, does a coach want to be known as the guy who'll dump a kid because of an injury or not being "good" enough? My guess is there's a fine line to walk in there somewhere, especially in a sport that offers only 13 scholarships. The medical aspect I would assume can get sticky And while coaches may not “cut” a player because of performance, they are often not too subtly encouraged to transfer. A coach tells a kid that he doesn’t see much of an avenue for playing time for him, and the player gets the drift. If WT says we plan to bring in two guards, one of which we expect to start at PG to free up Pope to play off the ball and the other to be first guard off the bench, player X and/or Y sees the writing on the wall. Not sure how much it happens at Oregon State, but happens all the time across college basketball.
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Post by beaverinohio on Mar 22, 2023 5:10:55 GMT -8
Listed at 6-8, 235, so would give the frontline some beef. Had 18 and 7 versus Georgia and 12 and 7 against Maryland.
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Post by ag87 on Mar 22, 2023 10:12:26 GMT -8
Listed at 6-8, 235, so would give the frontline some beef. Had 18 and 7 versus Georgia and 12 and 7 against Maryland. He played at Morehead earlier. 29 games in 2020, 0 in 2021 and 6 games in 2022. Very good rebounding %'s 12.9% OR and 23.6% DR. Both numbers are top 80 in the country.
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Post by beaverinohio on Mar 23, 2023 23:04:43 GMT -8
Guard with some length (6-4). Thing that jumps of the page about him is 40% shooter from 3 on 7 attempts per game.
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Post by babeav on Mar 24, 2023 7:30:32 GMT -8
So…if Pope and say Taylor get hurt bad enough to affect availability send them packing?
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Post by beaverstever on Mar 24, 2023 9:55:11 GMT -8
So…if Pope and say Taylor get hurt bad enough to affect availability send them packing? If they can't compete at the D1 level anymore, yes. They could be moved to an athletic scholarship if they want to stay in school at OSU - and I'd expect OSU Athletics would have options there. It's an athletic scholarship - if your athleticism is compromised, then a student shouldn't take one of the the limited number of those, and moved to an academic one.
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Post by thebeaver45 on Mar 24, 2023 12:20:23 GMT -8
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Mar 24, 2023 15:16:01 GMT -8
If his 3 point percentage from his first 2 years is indicative of typical development, we're in terrific shape with our current kids. I expect them to improve a bit, but man did he take a huge jump between his first two seasons and his last two.
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Post by beaverinohio on Mar 26, 2023 10:23:28 GMT -8
And the Beavers don’t make his top 8.
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Post by beaverology on Mar 26, 2023 15:36:23 GMT -8
And the Beavers don’t make his top 8. I knew we were in trouble when I saw a list of the top 5 MBB transfers in the nation and EJ was included in the top 5.
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Post by beaverinohio on Mar 28, 2023 6:48:19 GMT -8
6-3 guard. Averaged 29 mpg and a shade under 4 3-pt attempts per game. Had 16-4-4 against Gonzaga in tourney.
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Post by beaverinohio on Mar 30, 2023 17:40:01 GMT -8
Listed at 6-9, 255. Averaged 4.3 ppg and 3.5 rpg in 12 mpg. Had a few nice games statistically — 19 and 3 with 3 blocks and then 6 and 8 both against Providence, 10 and 5 with 2 blocks against Seton Hall, and 7 and 9 versus Marquette. All of those were in February, so started to come on late. Was at LSU his freshman year, so his HC has been fired after both of his two seasons. From California and was a mid-3 star recruit. Maybe looking for some stability. And on very off chance he’s the reasons for the firings, well anti-WT folks might want to see him come on board. Wonder if the interest in him means Chol’s time at OSU has expired.
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