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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 10, 2023 22:23:24 GMT -8
Duke upset regular season champion Miami in the ACC semifinal to earn the right to play Virginia in the ACC Championship Game.
Texas A&M beat Arkansas in the SEC quarterfinal to earn the right to play Vanderbilt in the SEC semifinal. Missouri plays regular season champion Alabama in the other semifinal.
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 10, 2023 23:50:00 GMT -8
Not to leave out the rest of the NC schedule... RPI 310, SOS 322:
Tulsa 5-25
FL A&M 5-22
FL 16-16
Bushnell 12-17 non D1
PSU 10-19 (x2) 20% of PSU wins!
Seattle 18-12
Green Bay 3-29
Denver 13-17
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Post by speakthetruth on Mar 11, 2023 6:40:23 GMT -8
Not to leave out the rest of the NC schedule... RPI 310, SOS 322: Tulsa 5-25 FL A&M 5-22 FL 16-16 Bushnell 12-17 non D1 PSU 10-19 (x2) 20% of PSU wins! Seattle 18-12 Green Bay 3-29 Denver 13-17 Ouch. |
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Post by lebaneaver on Mar 11, 2023 9:28:07 GMT -8
Yeeeeaaaahhhh……didn’t EXACTLY prepare us for fucla and ‘zona, did it?
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Post by bennysdentist on Mar 11, 2023 10:53:15 GMT -8
At this point, I’m okay with a non-con of mostly perceived cupcakes (pot, meet kettle), with a few more challenging games. Build up some confidence, pile up some wins. Hopefully be in the bubble conversation in March
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Post by beaverology on Mar 11, 2023 11:00:27 GMT -8
Yeeeeaaaahhhh……didn’t EXACTLY prepare us for fucla and ‘zona, did it? People who expect OSU MBB to compete with Arizona and UCLA are disconnected from reality. If the previous advantages weren't enough, now we have NIL to deal with. The reality gap got a lot bigger. It's literally NBA ready players v 2 and 3 star kids and we have people expecting the coach to make up the difference. Another person is posting stats about our offense that has to face Arizona, UCLA, USC, ASU, Oregon, etc comparing it to the rest of men's college basketball. Another disconnect. |
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Post by beaverinohio on Mar 11, 2023 11:24:55 GMT -8
At this point, I’m okay with a non-con of mostly perceived cupcakes (pot, meet kettle), with a few more challenging games. Build up some confidence, pile up some wins. Hopefully be in the bubble conversation in March For now, I can agree with the build some confidence and get some wins, but that NC slate would quickly end any bubble conversation. |
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on Mar 11, 2023 11:58:38 GMT -8
Yeeeeaaaahhhh……didn’t EXACTLY prepare us for fucla and ‘zona, did it? People who expect OSU MBB to compete with Arizona and UCLA are disconnected from reality. If the previous advantages weren't enough, now we have NIL to deal with. The reality gap got a lot bigger. It's literally NBA ready players v 2 and 3 star kids and we have people expecting the coach to make up the difference. Another person is posting stats about our offense that has to face Arizona, UCLA, USC, ASU, Oregon, etc comparing it to the rest of men's college basketball. Another disconnect. Help us understand how playing Oregon, USC and ASU means its ok to have an offense that scored more than only 6 of the 363 teams. Arizona and UCLA are obviously powerhouses. But that's a very small part of the schedule. Seems like you're reaching to justify our major weaknesses (again). I don't think that's being "disconnected to reality" to wonder this. Maybe you can explain to those of us clearly not as smart as you. |
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Post by beaverology on Mar 11, 2023 12:15:01 GMT -8
I think you need to compare OSU to teams who played the same schedule or close to it for an accurate comparison. For example, comparing OSU offensive numbers to Toledo's is apples and oranges. Look at the defenses Toledo faced, then look at who OSU faced. It's a bogus comparison IMO (although anything that makes OSU look bad, you will highlight over and over).
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Mar 11, 2023 12:54:42 GMT -8
People who expect OSU MBB to compete with Arizona and UCLA are disconnected from reality. If the previous advantages weren't enough, now we have NIL to deal with. The reality gap got a lot bigger. It's literally NBA ready players v 2 and 3 star kids and we have people expecting the coach to make up the difference. Another person is posting stats about our offense that has to face Arizona, UCLA, USC, ASU, Oregon, etc comparing it to the rest of men's college basketball. Another disconnect. Help us understand how playing Oregon, USC and ASU means its ok to have an offense that scored more than only 6 of the 363 teams. Arizona and UCLA are obviously powerhouses. But that's a very small part of the schedule. Seems like you're reaching to justify our major weaknesses (again). I don't think that's being "disconnected to reality" to wonder this. Maybe you can explain to those of us clearly not as smart as you. I wouldn't say our offense was ok this year, but I would say it was very inexperienced. At 60.5 points a game we only only outscored 6 teams. A few years back we averaged just 2 points more, only outscored 11 teams total, yet we made the NCAA tournament for the first time in a quarter century. Context is everything. Focusing on one stat does not tell the whole story. www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/stat/points-per-game?date=2017-04-04Where they go from here as the team gets more experience is way more important than focusing on this past season. We do need an impoved offense. A big part of our lack of scoring is in the interior. Hopefully with development and the new bigs coming in that will make strides. |
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Post by speakthetruth on Mar 11, 2023 13:13:00 GMT -8
So some want only positive comments. So instead of saying there were only six teams worse than us. Let's make it positive and say we were better than six teams, See doesn't that sound better?
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Mar 11, 2023 15:02:15 GMT -8
So some want only positive comments. So instead of saying there were only six teams worse than us. Let's make it positive and say we were better than six teams, See doesn't that sound better? You can be realistic. Our offensive scheme has been limited at best nearly all of Tinkle's tenure. It needs work. But, this was a very young team with no healthy experienced players at the post position. It should improve... at which point making the tournament again in the next couple years under Tinkle, contrary to what some here seem to apply, isn't unthinkable. I will agree that sometimes people, on both sides of the argument, reach a bit to make their cases. |
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on Mar 11, 2023 16:09:48 GMT -8
I can totally agree w/ that. I guess my issue was someone trying to say playing ASU, USC and Oregon makes it ridiculous to compare to another team. Those simply arent great teams. Good teams, but not a reason to use to act like we can't overcome something. In fact only one is sure to make the tourney. One is on the bubble and one is thankfully out lol. They should never be in the same breath as UCLA/Arizona.
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Post by beaverinohio on Mar 11, 2023 17:43:12 GMT -8
I think you need to compare OSU to teams who played the same schedule or close to it for an accurate comparison. For example, comparing OSU offensive numbers to Toledo's is apples and oranges. Look at the defenses Toledo faced, then look at who OSU faced. It's a bogus comparison IMO (although anything that makes OSU look bad, you will highlight over and over). Beavers were 2nd to last in ppg among all Power 6 conference teams. Cal was the only one worse. Apples to apples enough for you? Pac 12 overall is not a great conference — Lunardi projects the conference with the least amount of bids (4) among P6 conferences. And we know the Beavers didn’t play a very good NC schedule. You’re right that anyone who thought the Beavers would beat UCLA or Arizona this year is a little nuts. But don’t make it sound like the Beavers schedule is over run with top teams. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 11, 2023 19:55:26 GMT -8
Three of 11 OOC games against P5 opponents, two more against an in-state rival, another against a PNW opponent.
Pretty standard OOC schedule for OSU since the demise of the Far West Classic.
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