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Post by Werebeaver on Feb 19, 2023 13:58:20 GMT -8
Where was Lily in the second half? On the bench. |
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Feb 19, 2023 13:58:45 GMT -8
Too much of WSU’s Seniors today. Motuga, Leger-Walker and Murekatete with 41 of WSU’s 67 pts. Leger-Walker is a junior. Hopefully Murekatete doesn't return. Not sure if she has already decided though. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Feb 19, 2023 14:00:32 GMT -8
Too much of WSU’s Seniors today. Motuga, Leger-Walker and Murekatete with 41 of WSU’s 67 pts. Leger-Walker is a junior. Hopefully Murekatete doesn't return. Not sure if she has already decided though. Sorry, you’re right - JR. |
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Post by hawkeye2000 on Feb 19, 2023 14:02:08 GMT -8
I find it interesting that gravy and Rueck are the only male coaches in the pac-12. Does that say something for Oregon and recruiting coaches? The Woman seem to be getting the job done. I have to leave for now but will comment on any responses later. Go Beavers!
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Post by grayman on Feb 19, 2023 14:03:46 GMT -8
I mean, it certainly seems like we watch the same problems bring about the same outcome every game now. The offseason will be very telling, I'm afraid. So, what would you do differently if you were the coach? He's tried seemingly every lineup, switched the starting lineup, etc. We simply don't have any guards that can consistently score it, and the one who we thought could has been struggling mightily. We certainly have some talent, but our poor guard play is hard to overcome regardless of how well SR coaches. I don't think his constant switching of lineups has been all that beneficial. It seems like those are things that should have sorted out quite some time ago and largely in practice. However, the lack of strong point guard play is a major stumbling block. I would say let's wait and see but that depends on whether or not some of the key players hit the portal. I don't think it's all Rueck's fault, but I don't think he's done a particularly good job this season either. |
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Post by grayman on Feb 19, 2023 14:06:54 GMT -8
I find it interesting that gravy and Rueck are the only male coaches in the pac-12. Does that say something for Oregon and recruiting coaches? The Woman seem to be getting the job done. I have to leave for now but will comment on any responses later. Go Beavers! It doesn't matter at all. There are great male and female women's basketball coaches throughout the nation. |
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Feb 19, 2023 14:23:51 GMT -8
Tough to win if you lose the points on turnovers 20-2.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Feb 19, 2023 14:58:26 GMT -8
Hey at least the Duckies got swept as well. UW hadn't beaten them since Plum's senior year I'm fairly sure.
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Post by skyrider on Feb 19, 2023 15:17:28 GMT -8
Watch the transfer portal after this season, it is my belief that if this team loses personnel to the portal , there will not be a winning record again with OSU WBB until SR is no longer coaching the team.
The definition of insanity is "doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results". The one constant "thing" over the past few years during the rapid descent to the PAC 12 basement has been Coach SR.
His "broken record" about "almost winning" is wearing very thin!
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Post by standerd on Feb 19, 2023 17:38:21 GMT -8
So, what would you do differently if you were the coach? He's tried seemingly every lineup, switched the starting lineup, etc. We simply don't have any guards that can consistently score it, and the one who we thought could has been struggling mightily. We certainly have some talent, but our poor guard play is hard to overcome regardless of how well SR coaches. I don't think his constant switching of lineups has been all that beneficial. It seems like those are things that should have sorted out quite some time ago and largely in practice. However, the lack of strong point guard play is a major stumbling block. I would say let's wait and see but that depends on whether or not some of the key players hit the portal. I don't think it's all Rueck's fault, but I don't think he's done a particularly good job this season either. I agree with you about the point guard issue, as well as the switching lineups, which should have been worked out in practice. So just curious, when you say you don't think it's all Ruecks's fault (he is the captain of the ship), then who else is responsible for this less than stellar season? I'm thinking here mostly in terms of player development and conditioning, and game preparation? We have players that work hard out on the floor and who can play the game, but just can't seem to finish games with wins. As hard as we all try, we just can't seem to agree about what the problem is. Probably because we really don't know. |
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Post by hawkeye2000 on Feb 19, 2023 17:50:33 GMT -8
Watch the transfer portal after this season, it is my belief that if this team loses personnel to the portal , there will not be a winning record again with OSU WBB until SR is no longer coaching the team. The definition of insanity is "doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results". The one constant "thing" over the past few years during the rapid descent to the PAC 12 basement has been Coach SR. His "broken record" about "almost winning" is wearing very thin! Yes it will be interesting to see what happens after the season is over. I will not be surprised if Hansford goes back to Wisc. Rueck should have gave her more of Mannen's minutes earlier in the season. Gardiner, Beers,TVO could transfer to Utah,Colorado, or Wash.St.. Blacklock could go back to the Big-12. Who knows. It's a different game now with the portal. Player gets frustrated or unhappy and boom off she goes. |
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Feb 19, 2023 18:25:21 GMT -8
I don't think his constant switching of lineups has been all that beneficial. It seems like those are things that should have sorted out quite some time ago and largely in practice. However, the lack of strong point guard play is a major stumbling block. I would say let's wait and see but that depends on whether or not some of the key players hit the portal. I don't think it's all Rueck's fault, but I don't think he's done a particularly good job this season either. I agree with you about the point guard issue, as well as the switching lineups, which should have been worked out in practice. So just curious, when you say you don't think it's all Ruecks's fault (he is the captain of the ship), then who else is responsible for this less than stellar season? I'm thinking here mostly in terms of player development and conditioning, and game preparation? We have players that work hard out on the floor and who can play the game, but just can't seem to finish games with wins. As hard as we all try, we just can't seem to agree about what the problem is. Probably because we really don't know. I agree that the lack of a PG, some of the rotations, some of the late game situations, the fact the we have some non-Pac-12 caliber players, etc. certainly fall on Rueck, but there's also things that have been out of his control. It's easy to say that the lineups should have been worked out in the preseason, but Bendu, Aaron, and Gardiner all missed time early in the year. Makes it a little more difficult to work out rotations in the preseason with key players out. Hard to blame Scott for Talia's poor shooting performances when she was hitting those shots the past two years and even in the non-conference games. Best case scenario is the returners improve and we land a good guard or two. If we're playing Mannen and Aaron again next year we're probably not going to get too far out of the basement. |
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Post by grayman on Feb 19, 2023 18:26:29 GMT -8
I don't think his constant switching of lineups has been all that beneficial. It seems like those are things that should have sorted out quite some time ago and largely in practice. However, the lack of strong point guard play is a major stumbling block. I would say let's wait and see but that depends on whether or not some of the key players hit the portal. I don't think it's all Rueck's fault, but I don't think he's done a particularly good job this season either. I agree with you about the point guard issue, as well as the switching lineups, which should have been worked out in practice. So just curious, when you say you don't think it's all Ruecks's fault (he is the captain of the ship), then who else is responsible for this less than stellar season? I'm thinking here mostly in terms of player development and conditioning, and game preparation? We have players that work hard out on the floor and who can play the game, but just can't seem to finish games with wins. As hard as we all try, we just can't seem to agree about what the problem is. Probably because we really don't know. The players have to share some of the blame, just like a title team would be a credit to the coach and players. Rueck is ultimately responsible because he recruits the players, he puts the staff together, he chooses the style of play, he runs the practices, he teaches the schemes and on and on. But the players have to execute the offense and defense on the court. I think the defensive play has been OK in most areas. The offense has ranged from acceptable to a complete dumpster fire this season and too often leans to the latter. While I'm not a fan of Rueck's offensive philosophy, it's clear that the players are too often unable to run it at a decent level. |
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Post by skyrider on Feb 19, 2023 18:55:12 GMT -8
The players have to share some of the blame, just like a title team would be a credit to the coach and players. Rueck is ultimately responsible because he recruits the players, he puts the staff together, he chooses the style of play, he runs the practices, he teaches the schemes and on and on. But the players have to execute the offense and defense on the court. I think the defensive play has been OK in most areas. The offense has ranged from acceptable to a complete dumpster fire this season and too often leans to the latter. While I'm not a fan of Rueck's offensive philosophy, it's clear that the players are too often unable to run it at a decent level. grayman,
Always good to hear a knowledgeable voice of reason!
After 65 years of watching Beaver sports and seeing way too many Coaches continue to be kept on the payroll years after they should have been let go I admit to being somewhat "reckless" about my predictions of doom and gloom.
However, at this point the WBB program I believe could still attract strong candidates. It would be great once for the AD to be ahead of the curve and move now to hire a new coach for the program. SR has been well paid for many years and might agree to a reasonable contract settlement.
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Post by Werebeaver on Feb 19, 2023 18:58:15 GMT -8
Watch the transfer portal after this season, it is my belief that if this team loses personnel to the portal , there will not be a winning record again with OSU WBB until SR is no longer coaching the team. The definition of insanity is "doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results". The one constant "thing" over the past few years during the rapid descent to the PAC 12 basement has been Coach SR. His "broken record" about "almost winning" is wearing very thin! Yes it will be interesting to see what happens after the season is over. I will not be surprised if Hansford goes back to Wisc. Rueck should have gave her more of Mannen's minutes earlier in the season. Gardiner, Beers,TVO could transfer to Utah,Colorado, or Wash.St.. Blacklock could go back to the Big-12. Who knows. It's a different game now with the portal. Player gets frustrated or unhappy and boom off she goes.  |
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