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Post by rafer on Jan 28, 2023 10:14:42 GMT -8
Haven't seen it on here, but, how many FTs did the Beavs shoot. Seemed REALLY lopsided and furd played pretty physical and basically only got called on obvious intentional fouls. I didn't see it all but only saw Beers take 2 in second half and no one else, 1st or 2nd half. Did I miss any??
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Post by osu82 on Jan 28, 2023 10:18:06 GMT -8
That was an entertaining game, I agree with others that Gardiner’s addition has changed the teams dynamics in a positive way. She’s added a much needed scoring presence on a team that, at times, has a hard time putting the ball in the basket. A close loss, but still a loss. Cal on Sunday is almost a must win to keep the flickering post-season hopes alive. Beavs have a tough stretch of game coming up with the mountain schools at home and then the LA schools on the road. They could go 0-4 in that stretch if they don’t take care of business—-little margin left.
I hope TvO finds her shooting touch again. 3-14 in that game. One of the 3’s went in only by some fluke bounce, but many of her shots in that game were nowhere close to going in. Between her and Mannen, they were 4-19 from the field and played 36 and 37 minutes respectively. Tough numbers from 2 guard positions. Also, I wonder why Aaron hit a couple big 3’s right out of the gate then basically sat most of the rest of the game. We weren’t getting much in the paint against Brink and some more outside shooting would have helped. She seems to have it going early.
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Post by wbosh15 on Jan 28, 2023 10:20:11 GMT -8
Haven't seen it on here, but, how many FTs did the Beavs shoot. Seemed REALLY lopsided and furd played pretty physical and basically only got called on obvious intentional fouls. I didn't see it all but only saw Beers take 2 in second half and no one else, 1st or 2nd half. Did I miss any?? Those were the only 2. Oregon State shot 2 free throws, Stanford 18. Also we gave them a free point on the lane violation, and the buzzer beater at the end of the 3rd. Small margins when you play a team like that.
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Post by osu82 on Jan 28, 2023 10:37:13 GMT -8
Haven't seen it on here, but, how many FTs did the Beavs shoot. Seemed REALLY lopsided and furd played pretty physical and basically only got called on obvious intentional fouls. I didn't see it all but only saw Beers take 2 in second half and no one else, 1st or 2nd half. Did I miss any?? Brink and Haley Jones were taking it to the Beavs in the paint and getting fouled. They shot 14 of Stanford’s 18 ft’s.
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Post by jrbeav59 on Jan 28, 2023 11:13:01 GMT -8
Haven't seen it on here, but, how many FTs did the Beavs shoot. Seemed REALLY lopsided and furd played pretty physical and basically only got called on obvious intentional fouls. I didn't see it all but only saw Beers take 2 in second half and no one else, 1st or 2nd half. Did I miss any?? Brink and Haley Jones were taking it to the Beavs in the paint and getting fouled. They shot 14 of Stanford’s 18 ft’s. But the same fouls were not being called against Stanford when Oregon State took it into the paint. The clip of Beers scoring thru contact showed Brinks bodying into her enough to move her backwards, should have been and one.
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Post by grayman on Jan 28, 2023 11:31:02 GMT -8
No chance at tourney, that ship has sailed at Furd. Doubtful of NIT also, losing record, no one will pay to go watch a team that loses more than wins. Maybe in a couple years. OSU has a 54 NET ranking. They aren’t out of reach yet of either tourney. Playing in the #2 NET conference helps a lot come tourney selections. Yeah, there's been a couple of these doom and goom "no chance at tourney" comments in this thread. So the Beavers lose by 3 at Stanford and now suddenly they're out of the tourney? If the truth is that the Beavers are now a team that is closer in strength to Stanford, having played the Cardinal close and coming off a win against Oregon, then the Beavers could very well go on a stretch of wins to finish the regular season. I don't think they are fully at Stanford's level, but I definitely believe they are much closer to that than the team we saw fall apart against WSU and UW. We are watching a much different (and better) team come together right now. I am excited to see how they finish out the regular season and right now I think they actually have a pretty good chance at going on that run and win enough to get into the NCAAs.
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Post by rafer on Jan 28, 2023 11:41:21 GMT -8
OSU has a 54 NET ranking. They aren’t out of reach yet of either tourney. Playing in the #2 NET conference helps a lot come tourney selections. Yeah, there's been a couple of these doom and goom "no chance at tourney" comments in this thread. So the Beavers lose by 3 at Stanford and now suddenly they're out of the tourney? If the truth is that the Beavers are now a team that is closer in strength to Stanford, having played the Cardinal close and coming off a win against Oregon, then the Beavers could very well go on a stretch of wins to finish the regular season. I don't think they are fully at Stanford's level, but I definitely believe they are much closer to that than the team we saw fall apart against WSU and UW. We are watching a much different (and better) team come together right now. I am excited to see how they finish out the regular season and right now I think they actually have a pretty good chance at going on that run and win enough to get into the NCAAs. Hope springs eternal, but Cal is ok, not great, the Buffs and Utes can beat anybody, the chances of a 5 or 6 win streak is less than 50-50 for sure, long odds, not saying it can't happen, but odds are not good.
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Post by rafer on Jan 28, 2023 11:48:56 GMT -8
Brink and Haley Jones were taking it to the Beavs in the paint and getting fouled. They shot 14 of Stanford’s 18 ft’s. But the same fouls were not being called against Stanford when Oregon State took it into the paint. The clip of Beers scoring thru contact showed Brinks bodying into her enough to move her backwards, should have been and one. exactly. Brink got away with mugging Beers more than once, and for that matter JM as well. Apparently in a physical game at furd, only the beavs can't get fouled. As well as the obvious bad call on the sideline out of bounds that the furd player KNEW she had touched last,and proved it by diving head first to try and get it, only to gift furd another shot. Or, the lane violation, that is never called, allowing brink to redeem her miss. PAC12 officials doing their job to help their favorite team win> shooting 2 fts is an embarassment to the officials, not the team.
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Post by grayman on Jan 28, 2023 11:55:13 GMT -8
Yeah, there's been a couple of these doom and goom "no chance at tourney" comments in this thread. So the Beavers lose by 3 at Stanford and now suddenly they're out of the tourney? If the truth is that the Beavers are now a team that is closer in strength to Stanford, having played the Cardinal close and coming off a win against Oregon, then the Beavers could very well go on a stretch of wins to finish the regular season. I don't think they are fully at Stanford's level, but I definitely believe they are much closer to that than the team we saw fall apart against WSU and UW. We are watching a much different (and better) team come together right now. I am excited to see how they finish out the regular season and right now I think they actually have a pretty good chance at going on that run and win enough to get into the NCAAs. Hope springs eternal, but Cal is ok, not great, the Buffs and Utes can beat anybody, the chances of a 5 or 6 win streak is less than 50-50 for sure, long odds, not saying it can't happen, but odds are not good. The big key is that Utah and Colorado have to come to Corvallis. The trip to Washington is big as well but I don't see UW beating the current OSU team and so it probably comes down to WSU. Then it's ASU and UA at home. To win five games, the Beavers would have to at least beat Cal, and sweep one weekend against UW/WSU, Utah/Colorado and ASU/UA and split the other two. That's not really crazy talk. Maybe it was after the Washington schools came to Corvallis, but again, the Beavers are now a much, much better team due to the addition of Gardiner and now meshing together with her (which has been the catalyst to a very big jump, IMO). Forgot about the trip to UCLA and USC, which adds another chance for at least a split. I don't see the Beavers winning fewer than five games to finish. Yeah, it's not a streak. I do think a win streak is a possibility based on how they are playing.
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on Jan 28, 2023 12:06:03 GMT -8
The key now is they cannot afford a questionable loss. Beating Cal is a must. One game at a time baby!
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Post by sportsfan85 on Jan 28, 2023 12:30:13 GMT -8
Haven't seen it on here, but, how many FTs did the Beavs shoot. Seemed REALLY lopsided and furd played pretty physical and basically only got called on obvious intentional fouls. I didn't see it all but only saw Beers take 2 in second half and no one else, 1st or 2nd half. Did I miss any?? Stanford had a 18 to 2 free throw advantage with a 13 point advantage for the game. For the season Stanford has made more free throws than their opponents have attempted one reason they are pretty good in close games.
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Post by rafer on Jan 28, 2023 12:53:44 GMT -8
Haven't seen it on here, but, how many FTs did the Beavs shoot. Seemed REALLY lopsided and furd played pretty physical and basically only got called on obvious intentional fouls. I didn't see it all but only saw Beers take 2 in second half and no one else, 1st or 2nd half. Did I miss any?? Stanford had a 18 to 2 free throw advantage with a 13 point advantage for the game. For the season Stanford has made more free throws than their opponents have attempted one reason they are pretty good in close games. Nuff said, that is an impossibility if honest work is done by the refs, period. Stop playing your favorites!! Again, embarassing!!!
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Post by lebaneaver on Jan 28, 2023 14:40:10 GMT -8
We are NEVER going to get the benefit of calls at Maples. EVER. That said; we don't get 'em at GILL, either. It's ONE reason I don't watch basketball games, anymore. Not for MORE than a few years. Incompetent, cowardly, easily persuaded, (corrupt) officials made the game UNWATCHABLE to me, and, I don't give a DAMN what anyone thinks of that. **** I watch my grandkiddos play to SUPPORT them....but I see the same "failures" there. *****
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Post by rafer on Jan 28, 2023 15:11:05 GMT -8
Haven't seen it on here, but, how many FTs did the Beavs shoot. Seemed REALLY lopsided and furd played pretty physical and basically only got called on obvious intentional fouls. I didn't see it all but only saw Beers take 2 in second half and no one else, 1st or 2nd half. Did I miss any?? Stanford had a 18 to 2 free throw advantage with a 13 point advantage for the game. For the season Stanford has made more free throws than their opponents have attempted one reason they are pretty good in close games. NO, that's why they continually WIN close games, they are untouchable by the refs, and Tara V knows it and encourages the hacking untill it's called. Trouble is, it's never called!!!.Did you see even one call go the Beavs way, NO!! At the end, anything even CLOSE to a furd player was an automatic foul. The refs are intimidated and furd knows it. I finally got to watch all of it and on one shot attempt by Beers, Brink was all over her and blocked the shot, trouble is BOTH arms came down on top of Beers, actually horizontal to the floor and basically mugged her, tht'at's a foul all over the world, and yet no foul, You would think it's embarrassing to tara, but she loves it. I guess we all would...
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Post by beavheart on Jan 28, 2023 15:42:56 GMT -8
This game was especially hard to watch because of the horribly lopsided reffing. The cherry on top was the foul called on TVO with about 20 seconds left and a clear path to the basket when we're down 2 on about as clean a steal as you could ask for. That, on the heels of an entire game of Stanford slapping at the ball on pretty much every rebound, 50/50 ball, or defensive stand. Fran Belibi especially was playing like a linebacker out there, and somehow managed to not foul anyone once.
If you weren't already convinced that the refs were protecting the conference "big dog", that pretty much laid bare their bias.
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