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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 23, 2023 17:21:28 GMT -8
Call me crazy, but I'm looking forward to the Stanford game. Not saying OSU wins, but I think they are very energized and confident right now. They're not going to be overawed by playing a top-5 opponent.
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Post by finleybandbeav on Jan 23, 2023 17:52:35 GMT -8
Confidence is contagious, and the newest player on the floor has it and then some. Its not just that they beat the Ducks - it's how they did it, playing not only like they wanted to win, but they expected it. Great to see.
Yeah, they may or may not win, but bring on Stanford!
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Jan 23, 2023 19:08:21 GMT -8
I like watching Stanford, they tend to play a clean game. Tara has one hell of a powerhouse lineup.
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Post by beaveragain on Jan 23, 2023 21:02:11 GMT -8
Call me crazy, but I'm looking forward to the Stanford game. Not saying OSU wins, but I think they are very energized and confident right now. They're not going to be overawed by playing a top-5 opponent. You crazy. To want to be called crazy. If someone is convinced to keep on Jump the rest of Stanford's game is inside. We have a chance if that's what it comes down to.
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Post by beaveragain on Jan 23, 2023 21:05:53 GMT -8
Ohhhhh, mean nasty Tara. Guess who's competing with OSU for fewest steals in the nation? STOLE our .... I mean SR's defensive concept.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Jan 23, 2023 21:30:18 GMT -8
For a little perspective, the Beavs haven't beaten Stanford since Wiese's Sr. year. There were some close losses in the interim, but the last 2 years have been ugly. Mostly around 25 point beat downs. Beating Oregon was nice, but they aren't in the same class as Stanford. I guess we'll find out how OSU matches up real soon.
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Post by osu82 on Jan 24, 2023 9:52:05 GMT -8
For a little perspective, the Beavs haven't beaten Stanford since Wiese's Sr. year. There were some close losses in the interim, but the last 2 years have been ugly. Mostly around 25 point beat downs. Beating Oregon was nice, but they aren't in the same class as Stanford. I guess we'll find out how OSU matches up real soon. I went on Massey and looked at some history of the series and see OSU is 4-47 versus Stanford since 1998. OSU only has one win at Maples, 72-69 in Jan, 2017. OSU actually swept Stanford that year, winning in Gill as well. Incidentally, Massey predicts an 87% chance of a Stanford win by a score of 72-59. IMO, not much chance OSU wins this one, but I’d like to see them make a competitive game out of it and not get run out of the gym.
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Jan 24, 2023 10:14:35 GMT -8
For a little perspective, the Beavs haven't beaten Stanford since Wiese's Sr. year. There were some close losses in the interim, but the last 2 years have been ugly. Mostly around 25 point beat downs. Beating Oregon was nice, but they aren't in the same class as Stanford. I guess we'll find out how OSU matches up real soon. I went on Massey and looked at some history of the series and see OSU is 4-47 versus Stanford since 1998. OSU only has one win at Maples, 72-69 in Jan, 2017. OSU actually swept Stanford that year, winning in Gill as well. Incidentally, Massey predicts an 87% chance of a Stanford win by a score of 72-59. IMO, not much chance OSU wins this one, but I’d like to see them make a competitive game out of it and not get run out of the gym. I found a similar (but different - for example, says we are 4-40 since '99, and the last 'beat down' was 13 points) history of the series on the OSU site: osubeavers.com/sports/wbball/opponent-history/stanford/126I remember that OT game at Stanford vividly where Syd Wiese really powered us to victory (though I seem to recall a 3 late in the game from a very unlikely source (Gabby Hanson?)) also being big - very memorable since it was our only win down there. Go Beavers!
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Post by newduke2 on Jan 24, 2023 11:08:17 GMT -8
Beavs must focus on the big three! 1.Jump is Stanford's biggest 3 point threat...Beavs need to stick to her like glue :-) They just can't afford to leave her open or get screened off. 2. Who guards Jones? Probably TVO and Marotte take turns. She is nearly impossible to stop from scoring so try and harass her on the dribble. 3. Can Brink be slowed down? Mit, Gardiner and Beers need to push her, muscle her, block her out, and push her some more (she is long armed and athletic, but not as strong as any of OSU's big three gals)..AND OSU must double team her with a guard dropping down to harass her. To attack a shotblocker like Brink...Beavs must upset her timing upon which her blocking depends... use lots of fakes, hook shots (by Mit?), shakes, and go into her chest too.
The Cardinal may be without their starting point guard Lepolo due to a badly turned ankle.
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Post by beavsteve on Jan 24, 2023 12:26:40 GMT -8
Beavs must focus on the big three! 1.Jump is Stanford's biggest 3 point threat...Beavs need to stick to her like glue :-) They just can't afford to leave her open or get screened off. 2. Who guards Jones? Probably TVO and Marotte take turns. She is nearly impossible to stop from scoring so try and harass her on the dribble. 3. Can Brink be slowed down? Mit, Gardiner and Beers need to push her, muscle her, block her out, and push her some more (she is long armed and athletic, but not as strong as any of OSU's big three gals)..AND OSU must double team her with a guard dropping down to harass her. To attack a shotblocker like Brink...Beavs must upset her timing upon which her blocking depends... use lots of fakes, hook shots (by Mit?), shakes, and go into her chest too. The Cardinal may be without their starting point guard Lepolo due to a badly turned ankle. How about putting Timea on Jones? Seems to me like she might be able to handle it.
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Post by greybeav on Jan 24, 2023 13:11:45 GMT -8
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Post by grayman on Jan 24, 2023 13:31:21 GMT -8
Just hoping for a good game out of the Beavers at this point. Really could use at least split down there, though. Stanford's not unbeatable, but it would have been unthinkable just a week ago. I like Beers as a matchup against Brink. Not sure Mit can keep up. Timea is a much better option to go against Jones than TVO. I would also try Aaron and maybe Marotte. Jones can just shoot over TVO.
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Post by beaverstever on Jan 24, 2023 13:59:20 GMT -8
Stanford loses at home in conference about once per year historically. Tall order for sure.
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Post by skyrider on Jan 24, 2023 14:35:08 GMT -8
In watching all the games available on TV, the Beavs seem to have at least two glaring problems.
(1) Absolutely terrible 3 point shooting
(2) Really bad person to person defense (quickness, positioning, and technique). So they end up having to play zone defense most of the time which inevitably allows for open shots by the opposition passing the ball around quickly.
Am I correct or am I way off base about this.
If I am correct, why is it so difficult for this team to shoot threes? Clearly most of them have been practicing them for years!
As far as the poor defense, is it strictly a matter of our players not being talented enough as compared to other teams (if so, I can identify because I was one of those back in the day!)
Anyway, as always, look forward to opinions and insights from the group.
Go Beavs
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Post by beavsteve on Jan 24, 2023 14:42:53 GMT -8
In watching all the games available on TV, the Beavs seem to have at least two glaring problems.
(1) Absolutely terrible 3 point shooting
(2) Really bad person to person defense (quickness, positioning, and technique). So they end up having to play zone defense most of the time which inevitably allows for open shots by the opposition passing the ball around quickly.
Am I correct or am I way off base about this.
If I am correct, why is it so difficult for this team to shoot threes? Clearly most of them have been practicing them for years!
As far as the poor defense, is it strictly a matter of our players not being talented enough as compared to other teams (if so, I can identify because I was one of those back in the day!)
Anyway, as always, look forward to opinions and insights from the group.
Go Beavs
I think the biggest problem shooting threes has been that they have not been open enough... which means it comes down to ball movement (which is what the coaches have been saying has been an issue). If you watch our players during warm-ups it is clear we have some very good three point shooters... they just need to be as comfortable in the game-situation. And yes, quickness is an issue, particularly with the guards, who also need to be better ball-handlers.
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