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Post by messi on Jan 19, 2023 22:35:21 GMT -8
Lose at Cal on Saturday, this team may not get their next win until March when Cal and Stanford visit Corvallis.
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Post by beaverology on Jan 19, 2023 22:36:03 GMT -8
He could have done a better job of coaching + our youth shows through most games, we missed a lot of easy buckets, too many turnovers, etc. I think there's blame everywhere. We knew this year was gonna be bad. Making OSU MBB a winning program is a heavy lift. WT's having to do it with 3 star kids. Stanford has 4 and 5 star kids, tonight that was evident.
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on Jan 19, 2023 22:44:22 GMT -8
Stanford is 0-11 vs quadrant 1-3 teams. So their 4 and 5 star talent sure hasn’t been evident this year before tonight
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Post by speakthetruth on Jan 19, 2023 23:10:47 GMT -8
WT is really making it hard on himself now he needs to win 11 of the final 12 league games to surpass Craig Robinson. Will he do it?
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 20, 2023 0:54:57 GMT -8
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Post by speakthetruth on Jan 20, 2023 6:36:43 GMT -8
Stanford by 18. Hope I’m wrong. You were wrong. You'll get credit for being close though.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jan 20, 2023 6:49:31 GMT -8
Can't get over that it's just the same issues with new names. People who are blaming youth and inexperience need to go review past seasons. Many of these same problems were on display during the E8 run too
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Post by speakthetruth on Jan 20, 2023 7:03:32 GMT -8
Can't get over that it's just the same issues with new names. People who are blaming youth and inexperience need to go review past seasons. Many of these same problems were on display during the E8 run too Looking back on past years of offensive output. Here is where the points per game rated: 2014-15. 318 of 351 teams 2015-16. 207 of 351 teams 2016-17. 339 of 351 teams 2017-18. 192 of 351 teams 2018-19. 152 of 353 teams 2019-20. 173 of 353 teams 2020-21. 196 of 347 teams 2021-22. 255 of 358 teams 2022-23. 343 of 363 teams Obviously the offense under tinkle has never been good.
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Post by beaverology on Jan 20, 2023 7:07:58 GMT -8
Now do Beaver MBB from 1990 thru 2013. You'd think our MBB was some great juggernaut and WT had run it into the ground. People have selective amnesia. The truth is Jimmy inherited Ralph's program and all the capital he'd built, and it was impressive. Thru the 1990's, that capital was spent. Our MBB has been in a downward spiral since 1991 and it continues. The other Pac12 programs have built their MBB programs from the inside out. OSU hasn't done much. Look at Gill. Look at coaches salaries when they were hired. Look at our current NIL program: nothing.
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Post by beaverdreams on Jan 20, 2023 7:10:49 GMT -8
Lose at Cal on Saturday, this team may not get their next win until March when Cal and Stanford visit Corvallis. Well that likely will occur. I think Cal throttled this same Stanford team. I don't want to trash on the players...look, they're young and inexperienced clearly. There doesn't appear to be any egos out there, but maybe that's part of the problem too. Sometimes you need a couple guys with a little snarl to them. Losing is one thing, but the inability to even be competitive with what appears to be bad PAC-12 teams is concerning.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jan 20, 2023 7:13:31 GMT -8
Now do Beaver MBB from 1990 thru 2013. You'd think our MBB was some great juggernaut and WT had run it into the ground. People have selective amnesia. Dude no one thinks that. We just don't think he's good. He sucks, we just lost to Stanford by 20 with guys you keep saying are talented. There's no data that says he's even a mid level upper division coach. Your entire premise is that the players are young and WT is better than some other bad coaches. It makes no sense and makes less sense everytime he expands his career losing record.
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Post by beaverology on Jan 20, 2023 7:15:39 GMT -8
What part of the WT guaranteed contract don't you understand?
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Post by beaverology on Jan 20, 2023 7:18:16 GMT -8
Here's your data.
True or False? Has WT had 5 winning seasons at OSU while from 1991 thru 2013, there were only a total of 2 winning seasons?
2 NCAA appearances.
Pac12 title.
First NCAA tournament win in 40 years.
You can't accept the facts.
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Post by speakthetruth on Jan 20, 2023 7:25:31 GMT -8
Here's your data. True or False? Has WT had 5 winning seasons at OSU while from 1991 thru 2013, there were only a total of 2 winning seasons? 2 NCAA appearances. Pac12 title. First NCAA tournament win in 40 years. You can't accept the facts. In regards to winning seasons how many seasons in league play does he have? ONE. I could care less how many Bushnells or Florida A & Ms he beat.
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Post by speakthetruth on Jan 20, 2023 7:30:03 GMT -8
In regards to contract extensions I believe future extensions throughout college play should have a clause that reads something to the effect that here is your 3 year extension but for every year on out you have a less than 500 league record one year is taken off the extension.
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