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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 31, 2022 19:16:27 GMT -8
Not quite sure why Scott pulls a lineup that is working and puts in substitutes ( Duke, O of O , and last night.) It has happened in several games that we have lost—— I think he misses the advice of assistant coaches that have left.Not sure why he didn’t keep the Beers/ Metrovich high low option in as I think k it could have had an impact on #13. We will see if things improve tomorrow! .......I think he misses the advice of assistant coaches that have left........
Absolutely no comment here. I would get in trouble with some of you.
So the two assistant coaches that joined after Jonas and Scott took the team to the final 4 were the keys to success? Right. Or, maybe it’s just that the league is way better and SR refuses to adjust his style? |
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Post by sparty on Dec 31, 2022 19:44:42 GMT -8
.......I think he misses the advice of assistant coaches that have left........
Absolutely no comment here. I would get in trouble with some of you.
So the two assistant coaches that joined after Jonas and Scott took the team to the final 4 were the keys to success? Right. Or, maybe it’s just that the league is way better and SR refuses to adjust his style? They say it is in the company that you keep or the life of the party. That is why your wife dumped me last month and went back to you.  She said I was too much like stale bread and she preferred grape nuts. You lucky dog, you! |
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 31, 2022 19:49:28 GMT -8
So the two assistant coaches that joined after Jonas and Scott took the team to the final 4 were the keys to success? Right. Or, maybe it’s just that the league is way better and SR refuses to adjust his style? They say it is in the company that you keep or the life of the party. That is why your wife dumped me last month and went back to you. She said I was too much like stale bread and she preferred grape nuts. You lucky dog, you! Stop drinking….please… |
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Post by jdogge on Dec 31, 2022 20:17:21 GMT -8
When rueck became coach Utah, wsu, Arizona, Colorado, and even oregon weren't good. They have all improved. They were once "easy" wins. Which is why characterizing the lack of dominance is unconscionably negative. It's not that OSU has "declined," it's just that other Pac 12 teams have gotten better. |
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Post by jdogge on Dec 31, 2022 20:22:24 GMT -8
They say it is in the company that you keep or the life of the party. That is why your wife dumped me last month and went back to you. She said I was too much like stale bread and she preferred grape nuts. You lucky dog, you! Stop drinking….please… Or drink more, pass out, and be quiet. |
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Post by speakthetruth on Dec 31, 2022 20:23:52 GMT -8
When rueck became coach Utah, wsu, Arizona, Colorado, and even oregon weren't good. They have all improved. They were once "easy" wins. Which is why characterizing the lack of dominance is unconscionably negative. It's not that OSU has "declined," it's just that other Pac 12 teams have gotten better. You must be kidding. The Beavs have declined and others have gotten better. It's possible both have happened. Because both have happened. |
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Post by beaveragain on Dec 31, 2022 21:17:05 GMT -8
OSU has had crucial members of the team hurt, and don't have the depth to make up for those loses.
Glory days of 15-16 OSU missed Syd for a few games, and during that time they had half of their losses that season.
Ever since 18-19 when Kat got hurt (hitting 46% of her 3's at the time) OSU's been snake bit with injuries.
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 31, 2022 21:34:36 GMT -8
You must be kidding. The Beavs have declined and others have gotten better. It's possible both have happened. Because both have happened. They've declined because you need something to bi&$h about. You armchair experts and couch coaches look for things to whine about. The "decline" you should worry about is your age-related dementia. Oh yeah, all is well, little napoleon is killing it….lol |
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Post by spudbeaver on Dec 31, 2022 22:54:02 GMT -8
You must be kidding. The Beavs have declined and others have gotten better. It's possible both have happened. Because both have happened. They've declined because you need something to bi&$h about. You armchair experts and couch coaches look for things to whine about. The "decline" you should worry about is your age-related dementia. Huh. When coaching youth sports I always banged on “If you’re staying the same, you’re getting worse. Because everyone else is working to get better.” I figured these highly paid coaches would know and prevent that. Not to mention, do you really think they are as good now as past teams? I don’t see it. I don’t get it. I’m not impressed.* *Michael Keaton in Gung Ho |
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Post by jdogge on Jan 1, 2023 1:15:11 GMT -8
They've declined because you need something to bi&$h about. You armchair experts and couch coaches look for things to whine about. The "decline" you should worry about is your age-related dementia. Huh. When coaching youth sports I always banged on “If you’re staying the same, you’re getting worse. Because everyone else is working to get better.” I figured these highly paid coaches would know and prevent that. Not to mention, do you really think they are as good now as past teams? I don’t see it. I don’t get it. I’m not impressed.* *Michael Keaton in Gung Ho But here's the deal: we lost four H.S. All-Americans ... let's see how they're doing ... Jones 10.3 ppg, 6.0 rpg Brown 9.2 ppg, 4.7 rpg Corosdale 4.9 ppg, 3.0 rpg Kampschroeder 4.4 ppg, 3.1 rpg I'm not sure -- even if those four stayed -- that they'd be doing any better. |
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Post by william44 on Jan 1, 2023 6:02:42 GMT -8
Seems to Me that we have lost many players for various reasons. The teams mentioned earlier all are better. Some play more freer systems. We have gotten slower. We have had injuries. Now we are around 50’s to 60. Nowhere near top 20. Seems we all want improvement. Some defend Rueck,some think the assistants have not been as significant as before. All those things created the mess we are in.
The thing we can do is try to fit the system to the talent. Maybe a more critical look at it. 24 turnovers is like a bad high school team.
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Post by sparty on Jan 1, 2023 7:02:59 GMT -8
Interesting read on the two thoughts here. Basically there is the usual nothing wrong camp (everyone is just got better across the U.S.) verses there is something more deeply wrong.
And I don't know enough the current situations of the four H.S. All Americans that left. Are they starters, backups, players ahead of them, etc.
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Post by beavblvr on Jan 1, 2023 9:33:47 GMT -8
Interesting input from posters for sure, the team obviously needs additional time together to improve, and we are a young inexperienced team no doubt. In terms of recruiting I believe Scott and his staff have done a pretty good job recruiting, but for various or unfortunate reasons, the fact remains we have lost 5 HS AA or 5-star recruits in Sasha, Greta, Kennedy, Taylor, Taya. Add that group with Reagan, Timea, Talia and current roster and I really believe we would be extremely competitive with the top 25 teams.
I did get a chance to see a Michigan game (where Greta transferred) and they are a very solid competitive Top 20 team — and they basically don’t have a true lead point guard but use all their guards on the court to handle pressure and full court press (Greta currently is the first player that comes off the bench and plays good minutes and actually brings the ball up the court for the team when she is in. All of their guards are average quickness and speed, can shoot, and drive, and they pass the ball very effectively! One thing I did notice with their offense is the players are constantly moving, screening, passing the ball, etc - very little standing around. Just wanted to mention it because it did show me that you can still be very competitive in todays game without a true super quick point guard (although I would sure like to have a couple) but the offense needs to be effective and efficient in moving the ball around, inside and out, very quickly to find the open player; and then make shots!
Still rooting for this group to improve and see how Timea helps. Go Beavs!
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Post by grayman on Jan 1, 2023 12:09:20 GMT -8
Huh. When coaching youth sports I always banged on “If you’re staying the same, you’re getting worse. Because everyone else is working to get better.” I figured these highly paid coaches would know and prevent that. Not to mention, do you really think they are as good now as past teams? I don’t see it. I don’t get it. I’m not impressed.* *Michael Keaton in Gung Ho But here's the deal: we lost four H.S. All-Americans ... let's see how they're doing ... Jones 10.3 ppg, 6.0 rpg Brown 9.2 ppg, 4.7 rpg Corosdale 4.9 ppg, 3.0 rpg Kampschroeder 4.4 ppg, 3.1 rpg I'm not sure -- even if those four stayed -- that they'd be doing any better. Beers is averaging 14.4 points and 8.1 rebounds. Seems like she's an upgrade. Mit is averaging 8.6 pts and 9.7 rebounds. Timea has yet to play, we will see how her stats compare to Corosdale's at some point down the road. The real issue has been the backcourt. TVO is really the only player providing offense here and otherwise it's been below average point guard play, poor 3-point shooting as well as the speed/quickness issues. |
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Post by jdogge on Jan 1, 2023 13:12:53 GMT -8
But here's the deal: we lost four H.S. All-Americans ... let's see how they're doing ... Jones 10.3 ppg, 6.0 rpg Brown 9.2 ppg, 4.7 rpg Corosdale 4.9 ppg, 3.0 rpg Kampschroeder 4.4 ppg, 3.1 rpg I'm not sure -- even if those four stayed -- that they'd be doing any better. Beers is averaging 14.4 points and 8.1 rebounds. Seems like she's an upgrade. Mit is averaging 8.6 pts and 9.7 rebounds. Timea has yet to play, we will see how her stats compare to Corosdale's at some point down the road. The real issue has been the backcourt. TVO is really the only player providing offense here and otherwise it's been below average point guard play, poor 3-point shooting as well as the speed/quickness issues. Opponents are shooting only .311 from beyond the arc. Not much better than our .282. We did poorly last year as well. I wonder how much of this is attributable to moving the 3-point line to correspond to the pro 3-poine line prior to last season? |
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She said I was too much like stale bread and she preferred grape nuts. You lucky dog, you!
