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Post by seastape on Jul 5, 2022 11:56:44 GMT -8
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Post by qbeaver on Jul 5, 2022 11:59:55 GMT -8
That's one report...don't believe the speculation until it's fact. The PAC 10 now is opening up the television negotiations a year early. Lots of speculation out there.
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Post by OriginalWhizzinator on Jul 5, 2022 16:08:24 GMT -8
Lol, gonna be us and Wazzu in the Pac-2 soon. 🤣
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Post by irimi on Jul 5, 2022 16:50:12 GMT -8
That's one report...don't believe the speculation until it's fact. The PAC 10 now is opening up the television negotiations a year early. Lots of speculation out there. Must be nice to be paid to throw your opinions out there and speculate. Right about now, all the sportswriters and talk show guys are hoping this continues for another couple of months. After all, it’s what they are good at. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 5, 2022 17:08:23 GMT -8
Remember these are the same guys who got caught totally napping by SC and UCLA leaving the Pac-12.
Nobody in a position to write about know nuthin. And nothing is happening overnight.
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Post by lebaneaver on Jul 5, 2022 18:07:58 GMT -8
You’d (ANYBODY) have to be a hopeless optimist to believe OSU isn’t going to get f%#*ed in this whole, miserable, gawd-awful mess.
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Post by qbeaver on Jul 5, 2022 19:09:27 GMT -8
When your talking about hundreds of millions of dollars,who in the know is talking about this? Not television execs,conference commissioners,the people who would really know. Be careful about who you believe. Anyone can throw out speculation. Lots of behind the scenes stuff. We won't know who is playing in what conference until it's finalized.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 5, 2022 19:45:56 GMT -8
I may be clueless (many here nod yes) but I don't see the fascination with the Big 12. Without Texas and Oklahoma, it sucks compared to the Pac-whatever minus SC and UCLA. It's a truck-stop league in flyover country.
Compare TV markets. Compare demographics. Compare weather. Compare the number of national titles, even without SC and UCLA. Compare recruiting bases. One region is growing, another isn't. The teams in the Big 12's top TV markets (Houston, Dallas/Ft. Worth, Orlando) aren't even the No. 1 or No. 2 teams in their home market (UT, A&M are in Texas, Florida and FSU are in Florida).
Add SDSU and UNLV, wrap up two more huge and growing TV markets and call it good.
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Post by OriginalWhizzinator on Jul 5, 2022 20:58:07 GMT -8
I may be clueless (many here nod yes) but I don't see the fascination with the Big 12. Without Texas and Oklahoma, it sucks compared to the Pac-whatever minus SC and UCLA. It's a truck-stop league in flyover country. Compare TV markets. Compare demographics. Compare weather. Compare the number of national titles, even without SC and UCLA. Compare recruiting bases. One region is growing, another isn't. The teams in the Big 12's top TV markets (Houston, Dallas/Ft. Worth, Orlando) aren't even the No. 1 or No. 2 teams in their home market (UT, A&M are in Texas, Florida and FSU are in Florida). Add SDSU and UNLV, wrap up two more huge and growing TV markets and call it good. Agreed, but I think both conferences are in panic mode after the raids by the SEC and Big Ten. They’re desperate to stay viable. And let’s face it - it’s gonna hurt. $UC and fUCla are flagship schools, just like Texas and Oklahoma have been in the Big 12. The Pac-12 is probably worried about losing Cal and Stanford now too, and maybe even Whoregon. The best players come out of TX and CA. Nobody wants to lose access to that fertile recruiting territory. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Jul 5, 2022 21:11:55 GMT -8
I may be clueless (many here nod yes) but I don't see the fascination with the Big 12. Without Texas and Oklahoma, it sucks compared to the Pac-whatever minus SC and UCLA. It's a truck-stop league in flyover country. Compare TV markets. Compare demographics. Compare weather. Compare the number of national titles, even without SC and UCLA. Compare recruiting bases. One region is growing, another isn't. The teams in the Big 12's top TV markets (Houston, Dallas/Ft. Worth, Orlando) aren't even the No. 1 or No. 2 teams in their home market (UT, A&M are in Texas, Florida and FSU are in Florida). Add SDSU and UNLV, wrap up two more huge and growing TV markets and call it good. I’m not so sure I don’t agree with this. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 5, 2022 21:19:15 GMT -8
I may be clueless (many here nod yes) but I don't see the fascination with the Big 12. Without Texas and Oklahoma, it sucks compared to the Pac-whatever minus SC and UCLA. It's a truck-stop league in flyover country. Compare TV markets. Compare demographics. Compare weather. Compare the number of national titles, even without SC and UCLA. Compare recruiting bases. One region is growing, another isn't. The teams in the Big 12's top TV markets (Houston, Dallas/Ft. Worth, Orlando) aren't even the No. 1 or No. 2 teams in their home market (UT, A&M are in Texas, Florida and FSU are in Florida). Add SDSU and UNLV, wrap up two more huge and growing TV markets and call it good. Agreed, but I think both conferences are in panic mode after the raids by the SEC and Big Ten. They’re desperate to stay viable. And let’s face it - it’s gonna hurt. $UC and fUCla are flagship schools, just like Texas and Oklahoma have been in the Big 12. The Pac-12 is probably worried about losing Cal and Stanford now too, and maybe even Whoregon. The best players come out of TX and CA. Nobody wants to lose access to that fertile recruiting territory. True, but our # 3 and # 4 starters (Oregon and Washington) are far more appealing to TV eyes than Okie State, TCU, Texas Tech or whoever else is # 3 and # 4 in the Big 12. Thanks, Spud! (I think). |
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Post by spudbeaver on Jul 5, 2022 21:33:46 GMT -8
Agreed, but I think both conferences are in panic mode after the raids by the SEC and Big Ten. They’re desperate to stay viable. And let’s face it - it’s gonna hurt. $UC and fUCla are flagship schools, just like Texas and Oklahoma have been in the Big 12. The Pac-12 is probably worried about losing Cal and Stanford now too, and maybe even Whoregon. The best players come out of TX and CA. Nobody wants to lose access to that fertile recruiting territory. True, but our # 3 and # 4 starters (Oregon and Washington) are far more appealing to TV eyes than Okie State, TCU, Texas Tech or whoever else is # 3 and # 4 in the Big 12. Thanks, Spud! (I think). Yes! I agreed to the stick together stand pat idea, not the clueless part! |
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Post by OriginalWhizzinator on Jul 5, 2022 21:39:29 GMT -8
Agreed, but I think both conferences are in panic mode after the raids by the SEC and Big Ten. They’re desperate to stay viable. And let’s face it - it’s gonna hurt. $UC and fUCla are flagship schools, just like Texas and Oklahoma have been in the Big 12. The Pac-12 is probably worried about losing Cal and Stanford now too, and maybe even Whoregon. The best players come out of TX and CA. Nobody wants to lose access to that fertile recruiting territory. True, but our # 3 and # 4 starters (Oregon and Washington) are far more appealing to TV eyes than Okie State, TCU, Texas Tech or whoever else is # 3 and # 4 in the Big 12. Thanks, Spud! (I think). Yeah, I don’t get why there are all these Pac-12 schools reaching out to the Big 12 now. I guess if you’re Utah, Colorado, or the Arizona schools, you don’t have quite as deep roots in the Pac, are closer to Big 12 territory, and maybe you just don’t wanna be left holding the bag in a crumbling Pac if the Big Ten manages to lure UW and the Bay Area schools too. This whole musical chairs thing sucks though. The Pac had such a great tradition dating back to the days of the Pacific Coast Conference, and just like that…poof, it’s gone. Nothing is sacred anymore. Eff fUCLA and $UC for this, always and forever. And of course, **** that Midwest conference that still can’t count. 🤬 |
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Post by RenoBeaver on Jul 6, 2022 5:44:20 GMT -8
True, but our # 3 and # 4 starters (Oregon and Washington) are far more appealing to TV eyes than Okie State, TCU, Texas Tech or whoever else is # 3 and # 4 in the Big 12. Thanks, Spud! (I think). Yeah, I don’t get why there are all these Pac-12 schools reaching out to the Big 12 now. I guess if you’re Utah, Colorado, or the Arizona schools, you don’t have quite as deep roots in the Pac, are closer to Big 12 territory, and maybe you just don’t wanna be left holding the bag in a crumbling Pac if the Big Ten manages to lure UW and the Bay Area schools too. This whole musical chairs thing sucks though. The Pac had such a great tradition dating back to the days of the Pacific Coast Conference, and just like that…poof, it’s gone. Nothing is sacred anymore. Eff fUCLA and $UC for this, always and forever. And of course, **** that Midwest conference that still can’t count. 🤬 Because they know Oregon and Washington have one foot out the door. And I think people overvalue Washington. They are basically a travel partner and rivalry for Oregon. Yes it's Seattle...but if that was it...Stanford and ASU have the bigger TV markets. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jul 6, 2022 5:55:49 GMT -8
Yeah, I don’t get why there are all these Pac-12 schools reaching out to the Big 12 now. I guess if you’re Utah, Colorado, or the Arizona schools, you don’t have quite as deep roots in the Pac, are closer to Big 12 territory, and maybe you just don’t wanna be left holding the bag in a crumbling Pac if the Big Ten manages to lure UW and the Bay Area schools too. This whole musical chairs thing sucks though. The Pac had such a great tradition dating back to the days of the Pacific Coast Conference, and just like that…poof, it’s gone. Nothing is sacred anymore. Eff fUCLA and $UC for this, always and forever. And of course, **** that Midwest conference that still can’t count. 🤬 Because they know Oregon and Washington have one foot out the door. And I think people overvalue Washington. They are basically a travel partner and rivalry for Oregon. Yes it's Seattle...but if that was it...Stanford and ASU have the bigger TV markets. Washington had a way bigger fan base. ASU and Stanford have huge markets but that doesn’t mean anyone tunes in to the games. |
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