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Post by irimi on Jun 12, 2022 9:40:11 GMT -8
Auburn had their starter on a short leash. Pulled him before the end of the first inning. Why didn't we have the same policy? Nobody was throwing in our bullpen until the third inning. Pfennings was clearly struggling before then. And why didn't we see either Ferrer or Brown tonight? Had we given up before the 6th inning, when you would have expected seeing them? No, we didn't give up. They jumped on Pfennigs pretty early and got into his head, along with the insane strike zone. I think Pfennigs was frustrated by the zone and pitches that had worked for him all season were no longer dropping into the smaller zone. I suspect that Hjerpe is sicker than Mitch let on in the pregame interview, so I expect to see Kmatz tonight. With Ferrer following him to keep us alive for Monday. Monday, we'll probably get Hunter again. Unless Hjerpe makes a quick recovery. |
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Post by beavermd on Jun 12, 2022 9:47:54 GMT -8
Auburn had their starter on a short leash. Pulled him before the end of the first inning. Why didn't we have the same policy? Nobody was throwing in our bullpen until the third inning. Pfennings was clearly struggling before then. And why didn't we see either Ferrer or Brown tonight? Had we given up before the 6th inning, when you would have expected seeing them? No, we didn't give up. They jumped on Pfennigs pretty early and got into his head, along with the insane strike zone. I think Pfennigs was frustrated by the zone and pitches that had worked for him all season were no longer dropping into the smaller zone. I suspect that Hjerpe is sicker than Mitch let on in the pregame interview, so I expect to see Kmatz tonight. With Ferrer following him to keep us alive for Monday. Monday, we'll probably get Hunter again. Unless Hjerpe makes a quick recovery. Based on what I was told last night by someone close to the situation, the expectation is that Hjerpe will start. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jun 12, 2022 9:59:08 GMT -8
Yeah I would hope we don’t need Verburg or Carpenter again tell the CWS Yeah, Verburg and Carpenter were the problem last night. Wait what? Verburg: 2 innings pitched, 0 runs, 2 hits, 3 K, 1 walk. Carpenter: 1 run (by error), 1 K, 0 BB, 1 GIDP...the only one of the night. I don't think they were the problem last night. They weren’t but they are less reliable on average. If we can get through without them pitching again why would we risk it? |
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Jun 12, 2022 10:23:17 GMT -8
No, we didn't give up. They jumped on Pfennigs pretty early and got into his head, along with the insane strike zone. I think Pfennigs was frustrated by the zone and pitches that had worked for him all season were no longer dropping into the smaller zone. I suspect that Hjerpe is sicker than Mitch let on in the pregame interview, so I expect to see Kmatz tonight. With Ferrer following him to keep us alive for Monday. Monday, we'll probably get Hunter again. Unless Hjerpe makes a quick recovery. Based on what I was told last night by someone close to the situation, the expectation is that Hjerpe will start. He wasn't with the team in pre-game when he was announced and all the players lined up on the foul line... So hopefully it was just a precaution and he will be out there, but that worried me. |
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Post by castorcanadensis on Jun 12, 2022 10:27:02 GMT -8
I would assume Cooper is out for the weekend. The only way to win this now is with bats.
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Post by grovestbeav on Jun 12, 2022 10:36:36 GMT -8
So no way Pfennigs goes top 15 rounds right? Do we even want him back? Should have been pulled after the first inning. Not sure why we wasted Lattery’s long reliever ability for 1 inning of mop up…
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 12, 2022 10:36:53 GMT -8
Yeah, Verburg and Carpenter were the problem last night. Wait what? Verburg: 2 innings pitched, 0 runs, 2 hits, 3 K, 1 walk. Carpenter: 1 run (by error), 1 K, 0 BB, 1 GIDP...the only one of the night. I don't think they were the problem last night. They weren’t but they are less reliable on average. If we can get through without them pitching again why would we risk it? We squandered great nights by both. I like Verburg. He has been great once we moved him out of the higher leverage situations we were putting him in early. Carpenter was garbage for most of May, but he was great before and was great at the end of May. We risk it, if it makes sense. It made sense last night. The bats just never got going. |
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Post by irimi on Jun 12, 2022 10:36:54 GMT -8
No, we didn't give up. They jumped on Pfennigs pretty early and got into his head, along with the insane strike zone. I think Pfennigs was frustrated by the zone and pitches that had worked for him all season were no longer dropping into the smaller zone. I suspect that Hjerpe is sicker than Mitch let on in the pregame interview, so I expect to see Kmatz tonight. With Ferrer following him to keep us alive for Monday. Monday, we'll probably get Hunter again. Unless Hjerpe makes a quick recovery. Based on what I was told last night by someone close to the situation, the expectation is that Hjerpe will start. The expectation was that Hjerpe was gonna start yesterday. So much for expectations. Sorry. The whole "someone close to the program told me" doesn't hold much water on an anonymous message board. |
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Post by irimi on Jun 12, 2022 10:38:33 GMT -8
I would assume Cooper is out for the weekend. The only way to win this now is with bats. We certainly won't win without scoring prolifically. We have quality pitchers left...depending upon the strike zone. But we just have to go back to scoring 10 runs a game to out last Auburn. |
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Post by joecool on Jun 12, 2022 10:39:09 GMT -8
No, we didn't give up. They jumped on Pfennigs pretty early and got into his head, along with the insane strike zone. I think Pfennigs was frustrated by the zone and pitches that had worked for him all season were no longer dropping into the smaller zone. I suspect that Hjerpe is sicker than Mitch let on in the pregame interview, so I expect to see Kmatz tonight. With Ferrer following him to keep us alive for Monday. Monday, we'll probably get Hunter again. Unless Hjerpe makes a quick recovery. Based on what I was told last night by someone close to the situation, the expectation is that Hjerpe will start. Based on what Canham said on the pregame show and during the game, the expectation is that Hjerpe will start. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jun 12, 2022 10:39:12 GMT -8
So no way Pfennigs goes top 15 rounds right? Do we even want him back? Should have been pulled after the first inning. Not sure why we wasted Lattery’s long reliever ability for 1 inning of mop up… I hope this is sarcasm. |
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Post by joecool on Jun 12, 2022 10:40:02 GMT -8
So no way Pfennigs goes top 15 rounds right? Do we even want him back? Should have been pulled after the first inning. Not sure why we wasted Lattery’s long reliever ability for 1 inning of mop up… Of course we would want him back, are you crazy? What did we waste from Lattery? Nothing. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jun 12, 2022 10:41:04 GMT -8
The simple fact of the matter is that Canham/Dorman very obviously (IMO, of course) left Pfennigs in there way too long. He had ZERO command of the strike zone from the start, and, for example, absolutely grooved the pitch that their jumbo 1st baseman hit out to start the game. And it got worse from there. It was as if Dorman had decided from the get-go to leave Pfennigs in for at least a minimal number of pitches, no matter what. Basically, Dorman's poor management decisions last night were huge factors in last night's loss. PERIOD. I lost a lot of confidence in our pitching strategy/managment last night. Not only was Jake struggling from basically the word go, he has been struggling for weeks to find the zone. I was beside myself watching him walk guys one after the next as we sat on our hands. If I didn't know better I would have thought we basically threw the game. Also, just a general observation, but the ump was giving a lot if high strikes to their pitchers. Ours, not at all. Just one of the worst strike zones I've seen since Greg Street, and it sure seemed like he was favoring Auburn pitching. Doesn't take a savant to realize that if you make the strike zone the size of a grapefruit that it's going to favor the team that wants to tee up on heaters down the tube. If that's the way the games are going to be called it is going to take a contortionist act from our Beavs to get through this SR. Take everything that has gotten us here and throw it out the window. What's plate discipline? If it's close swing for the moon! That's the SEC way, and apparently the way the game has to be played now. I was sitting right behind the plate. The zone was bad for both teams. It’s one thing if it’s consistently tight, but there was no consistency to his zone at all. |
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Post by irimi on Jun 12, 2022 10:41:47 GMT -8
Based on what I was told last night by someone close to the situation, the expectation is that Hjerpe will start. Based on what Canham said on the pregame show and during the game, the expectation is that Hjerpe will start. I heard that, too, but why would you believe Canham? Is he going to tip his hand now? I don't think so. |
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Post by grovestbeav on Jun 12, 2022 10:42:19 GMT -8
So no way Pfennigs goes top 15 rounds right? Do we even want him back? Should have been pulled after the first inning. Not sure why we wasted Lattery’s long reliever ability for 1 inning of mop up… Of course we would want him back, are you crazy? What did we waste from Lattery? Nothing. Lattery > Pfennigs |
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