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Post by eugenedave on Jun 12, 2022 1:02:19 GMT -8
Auburn had their starter on a short leash. Pulled him before the end of the first inning. Why didn't we have the same policy? Nobody was throwing in our bullpen until the third inning. Pfennings was clearly struggling before then.
And why didn't we see either Ferrer or Brown tonight? Had we given up before the 6th inning, when you would have expected seeing them?
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Post by beaver1989 on Jun 12, 2022 4:24:26 GMT -8
Why couldn't we hit a baseball after the first inning?
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Post by badwack on Jun 12, 2022 5:11:46 GMT -8
Hindsight is sure easy. Lattery should have started. Cooper would have been in big trouble with that Ump not calling low strikes. Auburn is not the only team in the brackets that will hit FB and look terrible with breaking stuff. Can't walk anyone, can't throw FB down the Middle. Last night we did. Our problem last night was Hitting. We could have easily had at least 2 more runs in the 1st. Then we basically did nothing until the 9th when Melton finally made solid contact. Not hard to predict we are going nowhere if we can't hit.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jun 12, 2022 5:57:47 GMT -8
Auburn had their starter on a short leash. Pulled him before the end of the first inning. Why didn't we have the same policy? Nobody was throwing in our bullpen until the third inning. Pfennings was clearly struggling before then. And why didn't we see either Ferrer or Brown tonight? Had we given up before the 6th inning, when you would have expected seeing them? Look at it as a 3 game series. If Hjerpe can go tonight you 100% sell out for a game 1 win. On short notice do you go with the upperclassmen to start or a frosh? They didn’t play to lose but the strategy looks to be give Kmatz and Hjerpe as much backup as possible and try to win it with the bottom of the pen. If you win awesome, if you lose Auburn gets to try to win the next two against our best pitching. Auburn not countering it’s pitching to Hjerpe being absent pretty much seals the deal, save your best arms and let Auburn burn the top of their pen. Beavs bats have struggled in game 1 all year so game 1 is probably the hardest game for us to win anyways. Game 1 Pitching: Pfennigs, Townsend, Verburg, Carpenter, Lattery. Lattery had 11 pitches and can easily come back. Verburg can probably pitch more Sunday. Even against the bottom of the pen Auburn essentially stopped scoring. Against Lattery they looked hopeless. We don’t know if Hjerpe can go today yet but assuming he can the order will be something like this for each game. Game 2: Hjerpe,Sebby, Brown. Boisvert and Lattery in reserve. If the game is really close you may see Ferrer instead of Sebby as this is a must win. Game 3: Kmatz, Ferrer, Lattery, Brown. Verburg, Hunter and Carpenter in reserve. The variables are endless but if the games are competitive it should be something like that. If the games aren’t competitive you might see us leveraging pitchers for Sunday. If it’s really close then expect Ferrer to fill the void to give us a chance. |
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Post by beaver55to7 on Jun 12, 2022 6:06:44 GMT -8
Auburn had their starter on a short leash. Pulled him before the end of the first inning. Why didn't we have the same policy? Nobody was throwing in our bullpen until the third inning. Pfennings was clearly struggling before then. And why didn't we see either Ferrer or Brown tonight? Had we given up before the 6th inning, when you would have expected seeing them? Bahahahah, short leash. He threw 50 pitches and we batted around. |
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Post by abureid on Jun 12, 2022 6:16:29 GMT -8
MC used his Sunday staff for game 1. The pen did its job, the O didn’t.
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Post by sewingbeaver on Jun 12, 2022 6:51:44 GMT -8
Hindsight is sure easy. Lattery should have started. Cooper would have been in big trouble with that Ump not calling low strikes. Auburn is not the only team in the brackets that will hit FB and look terrible with breaking stuff. Can't walk anyone, can't throw FB down the Middle. Last night we did. Our problem last night was Hitting. We could have easily had at least 2 more runs in the 1st. Then we basically did nothing until the 9th when Melton finally made solid contact. Not hard to predict we are going nowhere if we can't hit. I assume the coaches have "scouts" on umpires too. Maybe this was a factor in Cooper's availability. GO BEAVS! |
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Post by easyheat on Jun 12, 2022 7:29:07 GMT -8
I liked the Auburn coach's reference to plate umpire John Brammer's "Professional strike zone". Brammer operates primarily in the SEC and Big-12 and is no stranger to controversy and a distorted strike zone. .
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Post by william44 on Jun 12, 2022 7:39:13 GMT -8
His zone was very stingy. He ignored the black. No favors to any pitcher. Seemed to call left breaking ball on outside edge to left handed hitters. I hope we do not see him again at home.
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Post by grackle on Jun 12, 2022 8:36:05 GMT -8
The simple fact of the matter is that Canham/Dorman very obviously (IMO, of course) left Pfennigs in there way too long. He had ZERO command of the strike zone from the start, and, for example, absolutely grooved the pitch that their jumbo 1st baseman hit out to start the game. And it got worse from there.
It was as if Dorman had decided from the get-go to leave Pfennigs in for at least a minimal number of pitches, no matter what. Basically, Dorman's poor management decisions last night were huge factors in last night's loss. PERIOD.
I lost a lot of confidence in our pitching strategy/managment last night.
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Post by jimbeav on Jun 12, 2022 8:38:17 GMT -8
The term "gave up" is too harsh, but the reality is that as soon as Coop got pulled from game 1, our coaches rightly treated this as a likely 3-game ordeal. And when you weigh the chances of winning each of the 3 days, game 1 ends up being the likeliest longshot. Better to save our powder for maximum effectiveness in the 2 games we have the best shot at.
I also wouldn't be surprised if the crazy ump played a factor in our choice of relievers. Our best pitchers are good because they throw dynamic stuff with precision, and by the 3rd inning it was clear that was NOT going to fly with that ump. He was basically demanding that pitchers tee up fastballs in the middle of the plate, so we might as well roll out our guys who are best at doing that lol.
But overall, I give props to our much-maligned bottom of the bullpen. They came through and pitched lights out; their collective effort would have been more than enough for a victory if our bats and defense had actually backed them up.
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Post by grackle on Jun 12, 2022 8:42:13 GMT -8
Auburn had their starter on a short leash. Pulled him before the end of the first inning. Why didn't we have the same policy? Nobody was throwing in our bullpen until the third inning. Pfennings was clearly struggling before then. And why didn't we see either Ferrer or Brown tonight? Had we given up before the 6th inning, when you would have expected seeing them? Look at it as a 3 game series. If Hjerpe can go tonight you 100% sell out for a game 1 win. On short notice do you go with the upperclassmen to start or a frosh? They didn’t play to lose but the strategy looks to be give Kmatz and Hjerpe as much backup as possible and try to win it with the bottom of the pen. If you win awesome, if you lose Auburn gets to try to win the next two against our best pitching. Auburn not countering it’s pitching to Hjerpe being absent pretty much seals the deal, save your best arms and let Auburn burn the top of their pen. Beavs bats have struggled in game 1 all year so game 1 is probably the hardest game for us to win anyways. Game 1 Pitching: Pfennigs, Townsend, Verburg, Carpenter, Lattery. Lattery had 11 pitches and can easily come back. Verburg can probably pitch more Sunday. Even against the bottom of the pen Auburn essentially stopped scoring. Against Lattery they looked hopeless. We don’t know if Hjerpe can go today yet but assuming he can the order will be something like this for each game. Game 2: Hjerpe,Sebby, Brown. Boisvert and Lattery in reserve. If the game is really close you may see Ferrer instead of Sebby as this is a must win. Game 3: Kmatz, Ferrer, Lattery, Brown. Verburg, Hunter and Carpenter in reserve. The variables are endless but if the games are competitive it should be something like that. If the games aren’t competitive you might see us leveraging pitchers for Sunday. If it’s really close then expect Ferrer to fill the void to give us a chance. Please...no Carpenter. He's just not reliable any more. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Jun 12, 2022 8:44:29 GMT -8
Yeah I would hope we don’t need Verburg or Carpenter again tell the CWS
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Post by beavheart on Jun 12, 2022 9:01:00 GMT -8
The simple fact of the matter is that Canham/Dorman very obviously (IMO, of course) left Pfennigs in there way too long. He had ZERO command of the strike zone from the start, and, for example, absolutely grooved the pitch that their jumbo 1st baseman hit out to start the game. And it got worse from there. It was as if Dorman had decided from the get-go to leave Pfennigs in for at least a minimal number of pitches, no matter what. Basically, Dorman's poor management decisions last night were huge factors in last night's loss. PERIOD. I lost a lot of confidence in our pitching strategy/managment last night. Not only was Jake struggling from basically the word go, he has been struggling for weeks to find the zone. I was beside myself watching him walk guys one after the next as we sat on our hands. If I didn't know better I would have thought we basically threw the game. Also, just a general observation, but the ump was giving a lot if high strikes to their pitchers. Ours, not at all. Just one of the worst strike zones I've seen since Greg Street, and it sure seemed like he was favoring Auburn pitching. Doesn't take a savant to realize that if you make the strike zone the size of a grapefruit that it's going to favor the team that wants to tee up on heaters down the tube. If that's the way the games are going to be called it is going to take a contortionist act from our Beavs to get through this SR. Take everything that has gotten us here and throw it out the window. What's plate discipline? If it's close swing for the moon! That's the SEC way, and apparently the way the game has to be played now. |
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Post by irimi on Jun 12, 2022 9:32:28 GMT -8
Yeah I would hope we don’t need Verburg or Carpenter again tell the CWS Yeah, Verburg and Carpenter were the problem last night. Wait what? Verburg: 2 innings pitched, 0 runs, 2 hits, 3 K, 1 walk. Carpenter: 1 run (by error), 1 K, 0 BB, 1 GIDP...the only one of the night. I don't think they were the problem last night. |
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