JFC

Idk why our society chooses to have this s%#t happen. It’s an option that most of the world doesn’t deal with.

Still waiting on thoughts and prayers to solve it

Just from a brief look online, there have been school shootings in Argentina, Australia, Azerbaijan, Brazil, Canada, China, Crimea, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Honduras, Hungary, India, Kenya, Lebanon, Mexico, the Netherlands, Nigeria, Pakistan, the Philippines, Poland, Russia, South Africa, Spain, Thailand and Yemen.

In Honduras, school shootings "are so common, they are subsumed quickly into the country's news cycle and barely register outside its borders."

I am just curious as to what constitutes "most of the world."

It does happen across the whole world.  They are not reported, because 99 times out of a 100 they do not serve either sides' narrative domestically.

15 murdered.  Stupid, senseless BS.

Thread lock in 5, 4, 3, 2....

...and controllable....

You forgot that part. 

Screw gun owners and their "freedoms." I want kids to grow up without the fear of being gunned down in their schools. This is BS.

And any argument you want to give for the protection of gun rights is siding with the bastards who get a kick out of these killing machines and fantasize about blowing away sitting targets. Shame. Shame on this country for not having the balls to do something about it after the first incident. 

Edit: If I need to be banned for this statement, then I'll gladly take the hit. If I need to be silenced for this statement, then think what message that sends. 

Insurance would probably work. The real let it burn solution would be taking away manufacturers criminal and civil lmmunity. That would bleed all over the place though, essentially anything used for murder would be an issue. Plus we still need weapons for millitary and stuff.

Nothing will happen though. 50ish kids getting murdered at school every year in mass shootings is just part of being American now.

The post I was originally responding to was:

"Idk why our society chooses to have this s%#t happen. It’s an option that most of the world doesn’t deal with.

Still waiting on thoughts and prayers to solve it."

My only point was that all three sentences are offensive, uninformed and wrong.  I guess that death in other countries does not matter.  Just because you do not hear about it does not mean that it does not happen.

The goalposts were moved, and I got into a matter of degree argument, which is my fault. 

You can argue data or facts, and I do not care.  But you can't argue CNN gibberish that is made up of numbers that cannot be verified for the United States of America; numbers that are intentionally wrong for some countries; and other countries that have been straight up omitted, because they do not support the narrative without comment.  And all of that is repackaged into a single year's number, when CNN's original number was over a decade.

You, Glove, then accuse me of "willfully ignoring valid statistics."  And I'm not.  I am arguing that the statistics cited are unverifiable (at best) and therefore invalid.  The old 80% of statistics are made up axiom is proven true.

You then attempt to discount a comparison to Pakistan.  I brought up Pakistan to attack the original point. Russia had a bigger shootout at a school.  Murder by an 18-year-old lunatic is still murder, whether the insane murderer has sworn an oath to the Islamic State or not.  

You then move on to Everytown statistics.  Mike Bloomberg's Everytown!  I am curious what Pravda has to say about this.  Communist propogandist, what do you think about gun control?  It's great.  Guns are bad.  There you have it; straight from Pravda!

One of the 925 of the Everytown shooting incidents is one in Oregon.  That incident is that someone heard a gunshot "near" a school.  No one was killed or injured.  There was no evidence that a gun was fired other than a spent casing was found in a woman's car.  The incident concludes that police are still investigating.  That is one of the 925. 

One from California is someone hearing gunshots in a parking lot at a college but absolutely no evidence that there were, in fact, any gunshots fired.  For all we know, it was fireworks or a car backfiring or a burst transformer or any number of other things that are misreported as gunshots.  One of the 925. 

One of the 295 deaths was an assistant principal committing suicide in California.  He used a gun.  Gun violence!  If only guns were outlawed, he would have slit his wrists, which would be better somehow and someway.  One of the 295.

Another of the 925 was an attempted shooting near a school in California that struck two cars with one of the shots lodging into a school gym at 5:45 in the morning before anyone was at the school.

I don't think that any of this is ok.  But it occupies an inordinate amount of time.  Even using the loosest of loose definitions, using the most skewed numbers humanly imaginable by Mike Bloomberg yields 295 deaths in approximately 9.3992 years.  That is 31 every year.  331,330+ people died in motor vehicle accidents since 2013.  That is a problem that claims more than 1,123 than shootings that occur in the general vicinity of a school.

I do not know what you cite at the end, but they attempt to incorporate both CNN's and Mike Bloomberg's malarky.  All of it is fruit of the poisonous tree and can and should be readily disregarded.  The numbers are not real.

I provided real statistics.  Get me real statistics that are not hardcore left-wing propaganda, and we can have a meaningful conversation about this.

And to conclude, murder at a school is almost always a true tragedy.  But using trumped-up propaganda to try and advance a point is not the way to win hearts and minds.