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Post by Bodhisattva on Apr 20, 2022 17:57:05 GMT -8
Why haven’t they disclosed the format yet. When are they going to announce?
Our last game of UCLA series ends Saturday. Do we pitch Cooper on Thursday in UCLA and then Wednesday in Tourney? Do we even care about going all to win or just setting our pitching for the playoffs more important?
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Apr 20, 2022 18:11:12 GMT -8
New boss same s%#t.
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Post by beaver1989 on Apr 20, 2022 19:20:06 GMT -8
Why haven’t they disclosed the format yet. When are they going to announce? Our last game of UCLA series ends Saturday. Do we pitch Cooper on Thursday in UCLA and then Wednesday in Tourney? Do we even care about going all to win or just setting our pitching for the playoffs more important? I would keep pitching Hjerpe on Friday, the day he's pitched on all year. As far as the Pac 12 Tournament goes, I was an opponent of it for years for a variety of reasons: 1) We play everybody in the conference unlike others, so our champion earned it without missing teams. 2) Why wear out your pitching before the regionals? 3) See #2 because some coaches sandbag their tournaments to preserve pitching. So why bother if people won't play their best? However, one person on this forum made me a proponent of a Pac Tournament for 2022, by his perseverance with logic, statistics, and analytics, he changed my stubborn & bull headed mind.(At least for this year) That person is the "one & only" Wilky. Changing my opinion on this wasn't an easy feat, but he did it. Well done is all I can say. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Apr 20, 2022 19:20:44 GMT -8
So historically the last reg season series hasn't seemed to be taken into account much for post season selection, right? Seems to me the only thing that matters for the Pac 12 tournament is the winner gets an auto bid.....so if ur on the bubble, or squarely out of the postseason, say like the OSU men's basketball team last season, then you should be very motivated.
I feel like the tournament is an uneeded tax on your staff if you are in a position to already be a national seed.
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Apr 20, 2022 19:35:27 GMT -8
So historically the last reg season series hasn't seemed to be taken into account much for post season selection, right? Seems to me the only thing that matters for the Pac 12 tournament is the winner gets an auto bid.....so if ur on the bubble, or squarely out of the postseason, say like the OSU men's basketball team last season, then you should be very motivated. I feel like the tournament is an uneeded tax on your staff if you are in a position to already be a national seed. I love the tourneys. For good teams that don’t need the win it’s a good chance to let younger guys get some experience before the post season. For teams on the bubble it’s a chance to get another conference team into the post season. It’s a good test drive before the post season, it’s fun for fans, it’s fun for players. And at the end of it all it’s good for the conference. I would have loved it as a player, will be the only time that all the conference players get to hang out at once. |
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Post by irimi on Apr 20, 2022 19:47:26 GMT -8
So historically the last reg season series hasn't seemed to be taken into account much for post season selection, right? Seems to me the only thing that matters for the Pac 12 tournament is the winner gets an auto bid.....so if ur on the bubble, or squarely out of the postseason, say like the OSU men's basketball team last season, then you should be very motivated. I feel like the tournament is an uneeded tax on your staff if you are in a position to already be a national seed. I love the tourneys. For good teams that don’t need the win it’s a good chance to let younger guys get some experience before the post season. For teams on the bubble it’s a chance to get another conference team into the post season. It’s a good test drive before the post season, it’s fun for fans, it’s fun for players. And at the end of it all it’s good for the conference. I would have loved it as a player, will be the only time that all the conference players get to hang out at once. Good points. I hope that we go into the tourney without needing to do much in the tournament so that it can simply be a fun and relaxing event. Stay focused on the regionals. |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Apr 20, 2022 19:58:38 GMT -8
Totally. I’d love to see us use the tourney as development time for pitchers and hitters. You flame out early starting Hunter, Grewe, Boisvert, Case, Carpenter, Hibbard, Trosky, Kasper, Guerra and Myro worst case teams underestimate you in the regional. Meanwhile all those dudes get real game development against legit opponents. If we have to lean on Hibbard in the post season I’d feel better about it if he’s seen plenty of challenging innings already.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Apr 21, 2022 12:33:37 GMT -8
Totally. I’d love to see us use the tourney as development time for pitchers and hitters. You flame out early starting Hunter, Grewe, Boisvert, Case, Carpenter, Hibbard, Trosky, Kasper, Guerra and Myro worst case teams underestimate you in the regional. Meanwhile all those dudes get real game development against legit opponents. If we have to lean on Hibbard in the post season I’d feel better about it if he’s seen plenty of challenging innings already. Yea that's how I'm hoping we approach it....I feel like the coaching staff has been very actively trying to develop depth |
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Post by nuclearbeaver on Apr 21, 2022 13:00:35 GMT -8
Totally. I’d love to see us use the tourney as development time for pitchers and hitters. You flame out early starting Hunter, Grewe, Boisvert, Case, Carpenter, Hibbard, Trosky, Kasper, Guerra and Myro worst case teams underestimate you in the regional. Meanwhile all those dudes get real game development against legit opponents. If we have to lean on Hibbard in the post season I’d feel better about it if he’s seen plenty of challenging innings already. Yea that's how I'm hoping we approach it....I feel like the coaching staff has been very actively trying to develop depth We’ve lost atleast two games developing pitchers with GCU game 2 and Gonzaga game 3. The first Nevada game was a real squeeker too. It’s already paid off with Lattery really blossoming and I would say Lawson, Townsend and Verberg are improving. |
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Post by Bodhisattva on Apr 21, 2022 13:12:08 GMT -8
Yea that's how I'm hoping we approach it....I feel like the coaching staff has been very actively trying to develop depth We’ve lost atleast two games developing pitchers with GCU game 2 and Gonzaga game 3. The first Nevada game was a real squeeker too. It’s already paid off with Lattery really blossoming and I would say Lawson, Townsend and Verberg are improving. Verberg is actually pretty good in short relief. I just would only use him for 1 inning though. He usually gets through his first 3-4 batters pretty well. It's after that he fades quick. |
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Post by rainmanrich on Apr 21, 2022 14:39:38 GMT -8
Based on the above discussion centered around player development, can I assume the selection committee will have already set the field minus the automatic bids and RPI's no longer matter? I'd hate to run the young-uns out there with a hosting seed on the line based partially on RPI. Know what I'm sayin' Vern?
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Post by rgeorge on Apr 21, 2022 15:12:23 GMT -8
Based on the above discussion centered around player development, can I assume the selection committee will have already set the field minus the automatic bids and RPI's no longer matter? I'd hate to run the young-uns out there with a hosting seed on the line based partially on RPI. Know what I'm sayin' Vern? If it is like the past, the regionals will be set on Monday, 5/30. The Regionals would then begin the next Friday thru Monday (if necessary), which would be June 3-6. The Pac12 tourney being double elim can have a toll on a staff, but it is set up much like a weekend series followed by the next weekend series. I do not see any team throwing away Pac12 tourney games by using it as "development". Every team there will want to win it and make adjustments according to their play. A team like OSU goes 2 & cue, or even 1-2 (depending on how they finish out the Pac12 season) it most certainly could lose them a super seeding if they are are in the 6-8 slots and another team wins the Pac12 or another P5 tourney. |
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Post by bennycat on Apr 21, 2022 16:04:00 GMT -8
BennyCat say that verBURG is also doing quite well, lately
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Apr 21, 2022 20:16:52 GMT -8
Based on the above discussion centered around player development, can I assume the selection committee will have already set the field minus the automatic bids and RPI's no longer matter? I'd hate to run the young-uns out there with a hosting seed on the line based partially on RPI. Know what I'm sayin' Vern? I looked up last seasons schedule. We ended the regular season schedule on Sunday May 29th against Furd. The inaugural conf tourney ends on......you guessed it May 29th. Theoretically, the tourney should carry weight with the selection committee if they select on the 30th. It just seems like based on history, it doesn't always play out that way.....remember when we swept UCLA to end the reg season and missed the post season? Meggs was on the committee that year......yea he's a bitter turd. Hopefully we take care of biz before the tourney. I think if we do, our results shouldnt matter too much one way or the other, and we will be a national seed.....lots of baseball yet to play. |
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Post by irimi on Apr 21, 2022 21:37:36 GMT -8
We’ve lost atleast two games developing pitchers with GCU game 2 and Gonzaga game 3. The first Nevada game was a real squeeker too. It’s already paid off with Lattery really blossoming and I would say Lawson, Townsend and Verberg are improving. Verberg is actually pretty good in short relief. I just would only use him for 1 inning though. He usually gets through his first 3-4 batters pretty well. It's after that he fades quick. He was Parker’s pregame interview recently, and even though I didn’t catch the whole thing, I was very impressedwith the young man. Sounded like he has been working hard on the confidence and mental aspects of the game. He credited Dorman for his progress. I sure hope he can put it all together. It would be awesome to see him throw more innings replicating his first innings. |
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