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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 2, 2022 15:09:38 GMT -8
I was just surmising - based on no inside information - only what I (very subjectively) perceived from the games and other public media. I was hesitant to state her name because, heck, I don’t know Kennedy or how she felt about her status with OSU WBB. Everyone has their own individual way of expressing their content or discontent. So while I may interpret her stoic demeanor as, “bearing the weight of the world on her shoulders” and not enjoying being a young, skilled athlete playing a game that she loves, she might actually feel the opposite. So I guessed right - this time. I’m hoping I won’t have to guess again for at least another year. There is no satisfaction in getting those kind of guesses right. Yes you are right this time but you originally were pretty strong about there not being any transfers like the team was in a protective bubble from the rest. Was it hopeful thinking or did something change? Do you see anymore falling? I was "strong" in my wishful thinking. Quite honestly, I have no idea what's next. I think my crystal ball got misplaced at the detailing shop. For some, uncertainty is terrifying. But as a mere fan, I don't see why I should take it that seriously. I don't follow the off-season action that much or recruiting wars at all, other than signing day. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 2, 2022 15:14:50 GMT -8
Time will tell. Isn’t knee-jerk pessimism just another form of self-protective smugness? It is the ones that want Brown to now transfer to the University of Chernobyl, Fighting glow sticks. Yeah, I certainly don't see any reason to lash out her. I do think she is a very above-average D1 athlete and competitor. Is she irreplaceable? Time will tell. And I very sincerely would love to see her just "light it up" on the offensive side at her chosen destination. |
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Post by beaveragain on Apr 2, 2022 15:19:43 GMT -8
It is the ones that want Brown to now transfer to the University of Chernobyl, Fighting glow sticks. Yeah, I certainly don't see any reason to lash out her. I do think she is a very above-average D1 athlete and competitor. Is she irreplaceable? Time will tell. And I very sincerely would love to see her just "light it up" on the offensive side at her chosen destination. Nowww, hold it. Let's wait to see where she ends up before we wish her lots of "light it up" 🤔 |
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Post by sparty on Apr 2, 2022 18:45:05 GMT -8
It is the ones that want Brown to now transfer to the University of Chernobyl, Fighting glow sticks. Yeah, I certainly don't see any reason to lash out her. I do think she is a very above-average D1 athlete and competitor. Is she irreplaceable? Time will tell. And I very sincerely would love to see her just "light it up" on the offensive side at her chosen destination.   |
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 2, 2022 18:49:24 GMT -8
Yeah, I certainly don't see any reason to lash out her. I do think she is a very above-average D1 athlete and competitor. Is she irreplaceable? Time will tell. And I very sincerely would love to see her just "light it up" on the offensive side at her chosen destination. I think that’s called “sparking one up”. Or so I’ve been told. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Apr 2, 2022 19:42:29 GMT -8
Classic:
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Post by beaverstever on Apr 2, 2022 21:33:12 GMT -8
Thinking about this some more, I had wondered why Brown was coming off the bench for all the NIT, after being largely a starter. It didn’t seem to affect her total minutes, and she had some of her best offensive games on the NIT. But she was getting those minutes largely at the 5, and scoring in the post with passes over the top of smaller defenders, so she ended up generally getting the ball facing the basket anyway - that didn’t happen much in conference play. So she’s looking at Jelena starting at the 5, Taya being pretty much immovable for minutes generally at the 4 (and often not doing much scoring either), and the 3 spot going to a variety of players that often struggled except for when Mack got going. With Gardiner and Beers coming in and Taylor back, she’s looking at an even more uphill battle to get time at the 3 or 4 spots that she thinks she should be at. So while the team really needs her at the 5, she’s not even starting at that position to close the season, and doesn’t even want to, assuming she still aspires to play facing the basket.
It’s very possible she believes she should have gotten more of Taya’s minutes, and clearly Rueck didn’t agree. Obviously I’m speculating here, but these moves to transfer have reasons, and her coming off the bench the entire NIT now seems telling. I looked at her total minutes (which generally were good) and didn’t think much of it before, but getting benched for the post season will leave a mark, regardless of the total minute actually played. That is, the minutes don’t suggest she was in the doghouse, but not starting likely was a message.
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Apr 2, 2022 21:48:28 GMT -8
Thinking about this some more, I had wondered why Brown was coming off the bench for all the NIT, after being largely a starter. It didn’t seem to affect her total minutes, and she had some of her best offensive games on the NIT. But she was getting those minutes largely at the 5, and scoring in the post with passes over the top of smaller defenders, so she ended up generally getting the ball facing the basket anyway - that didn’t happen much in conference play. So she’s looking at Jelena starting at the 5, Taya being pretty much immovable for minutes generally at the 4 (and often not doing much scoring either), and the 3 spot going to a variety of players that often struggled except for when Mack got going. With Gardiner and Beers coming in and Taylor back, she’s looking at an even more uphill battle to get time at the 3 or 4 spots that she thinks she should be at. So while the team really needs her at the 5, she’s not even starting at that position to close the season, and doesn’t even want to, assuming she still aspires to play facing the basket. It’s very possible she believes she should have gotten more of Taya’s minutes, and clearly Rueck didn’t agree. Obviously I’m speculating here, but these moves to transfer have reasons, and her coming off the bench the entire NIT now seems telling. I looked at her total minutes (which generally were good) and didn’t think much of it before, but getting benched for the post season will leave a mark, regardless of the total minute actually played. That is, the minutes don’t suggest she was in the doghouse, but not starting likely was a message. Except Taya is supposedly leaving. Next year would be her best opportunity so far play the 4. |
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Post by beaverstever on Apr 2, 2022 21:54:05 GMT -8
Thinking about this some more, I had wondered why Brown was coming off the bench for all the NIT, after being largely a starter. It didn’t seem to affect her total minutes, and she had some of her best offensive games on the NIT. But she was getting those minutes largely at the 5, and scoring in the post with passes over the top of smaller defenders, so she ended up generally getting the ball facing the basket anyway - that didn’t happen much in conference play. So she’s looking at Jelena starting at the 5, Taya being pretty much immovable for minutes generally at the 4 (and often not doing much scoring either), and the 3 spot going to a variety of players that often struggled except for when Mack got going. With Gardiner and Beers coming in and Taylor back, she’s looking at an even more uphill battle to get time at the 3 or 4 spots that she thinks she should be at. So while the team really needs her at the 5, she’s not even starting at that position to close the season, and doesn’t even want to, assuming she still aspires to play facing the basket. It’s very possible she believes she should have gotten more of Taya’s minutes, and clearly Rueck didn’t agree. Obviously I’m speculating here, but these moves to transfer have reasons, and her coming off the bench the entire NIT now seems telling. I looked at her total minutes (which generally were good) and didn’t think much of it before, but getting benched for the post season will leave a mark, regardless of the total minute actually played. That is, the minutes don’t suggest she was in the doghouse, but not starting likely was a message. Except Taya is supposedly leaving. Next year would be her best opportunity so far play the 4. Understood, my point is that usually players are frustrated by what’s already happened, not by what’s about to happen. And if she couldn’t take minutes from Taya this year, what’s the odds she’ll take minute from Jones/Beers/Gardiner next year- all who look to have much better offensive games? She may believe that even if she does out-compete them for the 4 spot, Rueck won’t agree. |
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Post by willtalk on Apr 3, 2022 6:21:49 GMT -8
Thinking about this some more, I had wondered why Brown was coming off the bench for all the NIT, after being largely a starter. It didn’t seem to affect her total minutes, and she had some of her best offensive games on the NIT. But she was getting those minutes largely at the 5, and scoring in the post with passes over the top of smaller defenders, so she ended up generally getting the ball facing the basket anyway - that didn’t happen much in conference play. So she’s looking at Jelena starting at the 5, Taya being pretty much immovable for minutes generally at the 4 (and often not doing much scoring either), and the 3 spot going to a variety of players that often struggled except for when Mack got going. With Gardiner and Beers coming in and Taylor back, she’s looking at an even more uphill battle to get time at the 3 or 4 spots that she thinks she should be at. So while the team really needs her at the 5, she’s not even starting at that position to close the season, and doesn’t even want to, assuming she still aspires to play facing the basket. It’s very possible she believes she should have gotten more of Taya’s minutes, and clearly Rueck didn’t agree. Obviously I’m speculating here, but these moves to transfer have reasons, and her coming off the bench the entire NIT now seems telling. I looked at her total minutes (which generally were good) and didn’t think much of it before, but getting benched for the post season will leave a mark, regardless of the total minute actually played. That is, the minutes don’t suggest she was in the doghouse, but not starting likely was a message. I think that probably was a major factor. It seemed she chose OS initially because she would not be forced into playing the post. I also believe that playing with so many frosh at the guard positions might also have hindered her development at the 3. I think Scott was faced with a lot of choices that he never had to deal with before. When highly ranked players come to a program the usually expect a lot of playing time right from the start, and this new easy transfer system gives them an out the never had before. I suspected that Scott was making a lot of play time decisions based on keeping players at risk to transfer happy and it hurt the teams record. In the past he hardly ever started frosh. At the end of this season he finally started playing the players that would win games. |
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Post by osu82 on Apr 3, 2022 7:21:28 GMT -8
It’s tough to be a 6’6” player in the woman’s game, and not want to play 5. That’s where 90+% of the teams would want to use her height for post defense and rebounding. Gulich was a very mobile 5 who was a face up scoring threat out to 18’. Not a bad player to emulate, I should think, for a player like Brown. It’s also tough when you want to be a face-up 4, but aren’t an especially good outside shooter either. Although it’s complete speculation that any of the freshmen next season would have more of an outside game and therefore challenge her for minutes next year at the 4.
Rueck maintains a strict code of silence around the program and players coming and going. Fan speculation is all we’re likely to have. Anyway, I’m sorry to see her leave and I think she would have been a good player for the Beavs over the next couple of years.
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Post by jegerklog on Apr 3, 2022 8:31:44 GMT -8
This is a nice summary. If I remember correctly, Gulich improved significantly in her junior year and exploded in her senior year? It seems like Kennedy improved significantly during the past year even if not meeting the expectations for some.
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Post by william44 on Apr 3, 2022 9:09:59 GMT -8
Some funny comments. I like most players. My criticism is with style. You could say I think things have changed and Scott need change too. I wish those that leave well. Some of you folks are shallow. Hoping we can get better.
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Post by beavheart on Apr 3, 2022 9:36:27 GMT -8
This one doesn't make a lot of sense to me for a lot of the reasons already discussed.
To come here with all the accolades she had, and then be given every opportunity to succeed is all that OSU or Rueck can control and do. It's just strange to me to commit to a program, go through all of the learning curve, getting hurt and sitting out a year while you rehab, and then being put right back into a major role only to bail RIGHT when it's your time to shine.
I guess Kennedy really doesn't like OSU, because this doesn't make a ton of sense on the surface. Don't like your playing time? Battle through it! Grow, get stronger and faster, work on your free throw shooting and finishing down low and come back refocused. I agree with some on here that there are some important life lessons that are being lost due to the portal making it too easy to just bail.
Not going to lose sleep over this one. Already starting to get used to players just coming and going like free agency in the pros. However, this decision just seems short sighted for Brown.
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Post by easternbuck on Apr 3, 2022 9:45:09 GMT -8
Soft generation.
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