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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 5, 2022 20:32:24 GMT -8
How many Ukranian elevators does it take to transform 5 Russian soldiers into 5 Russian POW's?
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 5, 2022 23:43:17 GMT -8
How many Ukranian elevators does it take to transform 5 Russian soldiers into 5 Russian POW's? Ok, on a serious note. I've never been in a war nor a soldier. But, one of the last spots I'd think is safe is riding an elevator when invading a country. Seems like a fairly indefensible position. Stairs. I'm taking stairs and clearing floors as I go.
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Post by irimi on Mar 6, 2022 8:29:57 GMT -8
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 6, 2022 9:14:40 GMT -8
Good summary of the realities of imposing a “No Fly Zone” over Ukraine.
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Post by irimi on Mar 6, 2022 9:33:11 GMT -8
Good summary of the realities of imposing a “No Fly Zone” over Ukraine. Great find! Thanks for sharing.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 8, 2022 19:06:55 GMT -8
............. Venezuela has the largest oil reserves in the World? Venezuela is also a member of OPEC. Maduro is a despot, but they have oil. If we had the will to save Venezuela from Maduro, we could provide freedom from Venezuelans and open up the ability to trade for Venezuelan oil. Win-win for America, Venezuela and the World in general. And a blow to China and Russia and their Axis of Evil. I’m aware. It’s the company you keep. Hey, we, the government are taking your billion dollar investment. Now beat it. I believe it’s also very heavy crude, expensive to refine. I have been busy with end of/beginning of the month stuff, my trip to Austin and an increased workload this month. However, I just talked to my oil guy, and he said that heavy Venezuelan oil is no better or worse than most of the light oil that comes out of Canada. However, if you mix light Canadian oil with heavy Venezuelan oil in the right amounts, you basically get a very easy to refine oil. He also said that light Canadian oil is about the same grade as the light fracking oil from the Northern Plains. He also also said that finding oil that could really replace Russian oil is a lot more difficult than simply randomly increasing production somewhere else. It is best to be able to utilize all of the available oil and mix and match it to create oil that easy to refine. Anyway, that is what I understood from my brief conversation with a guy who knows more than myself about oil.
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Post by spudbeaver on Mar 8, 2022 20:22:28 GMT -8
I’m aware. It’s the company you keep. Hey, we, the government are taking your billion dollar investment. Now beat it. I believe it’s also very heavy crude, expensive to refine. I have been busy with end of/beginning of the month stuff, my trip to Austin and an increased workload this month. However, I just talked to my oil guy, and he said that heavy Venezuelan oil is no better or worse than most of the light oil that comes out of Canada. However, if you mix light Canadian oil with heavy Venezuelan oil in the right amounts, you basically get a very easy to refine oil. He also said that light Canadian oil is about the same grade as the light fracking oil from the Northern Plains. He also also said that finding oil that could really replace Russian oil is a lot more difficult than simply randomly increasing production somewhere else. It is best to be able to utilize all of the available oil and mix and match it to create oil that easy to refine. Anyway, that is what I understood from my brief conversation with a guy who knows more than myself about oil. Venezuela oil makes great asphalt oil. For what it’s worth.
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 8, 2022 21:00:13 GMT -8
The Russian invasion of Ukraine began on 2/20/22, 2 weeks and 2 days ago. Ukraine claims they have already killed 12,000 Russian soldiers - that has not been independently verified, nor is it likely to be any time soon. But if it is even roughly accurate, compare it to the 58,000 US military fatalities over 12 years of fighting in Vietnam. Suffice to say that Russia had better hope their war doesn't drag on for 12 years.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 9, 2022 12:20:11 GMT -8
The Russian invasion of Ukraine began on 2/20/22, 2 weeks and 2 days ago. Ukraine claims they have already killed 12,000 Russian soldiers - that has not been independently verified, nor is it likely to be any time soon. But if it is even roughly accurate, compare it to the 58,000 US military fatalities over 12 years of fighting in Vietnam. Suffice to say that Russia had better hope their war doesn't drag on for 12 years. The United States reports that approximately 4,000 Russian troops have died. There were 47,424 American battle deaths in Vietnam. There are another approximately 10,785 US Military members, who also died in the Vietnam conflict but not as a result of wounds sustained in battle. For example, there were vehicle crashes, fatal disease, suicides and homicides. In all of 1966, there were 6,350 United States military deaths in Vietnam. 1966 was the first year that the United States committed military troops of the quantity that Russia has arrayed against Ukraine. But 6,350 was for an entire year. 4,000 for less than a month of fighting is a ton. In World War II, the United States was averaging about 6,600 per month. If Russia hits those levels, I would doubt that they have the will to continue the fight.
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Post by ochobeavo on Mar 9, 2022 13:11:23 GMT -8
What a crazy time on so many fronts...
An actual war in the tick tok smart phone age. The viral videos have been nuts.
And working in supply chain - it just keeps getting tougher and tougher. Had a freight forwarder triple the cost of ocean containers on me this week Fuel, insurance, labor shortages, container ship shortages, hey man - there's a war, etc. Lead-times for some electrical components going from 12 weeks to 30 to 44 to 70. Tough to keep the banana stand going right now.
Here's one of my favorite videos so far:
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Post by irimi on Mar 9, 2022 17:15:51 GMT -8
What a crazy time on so many fronts... An actual war in the tick tok smart phone age. The viral videos have been nuts. And working in supply chain - it just keeps getting tougher and tougher. Had a freight forwarder triple the cost of ocean containers on me this week Fuel, insurance, labor shortages, container ship shortages, hey man - there's a war, etc. Lead-times for some electrical components going from 12 weeks to 30 to 44 to 70. Tough to keep the banana stand going right now. Here's one of my favorite videos so far: I was listening on NPR how they are using geolocation to determine the movements of the Russian army because there are so many photos and videos being uploaded. Of course, many people are stripping the geolocation info off of photos and videos when they post them to the web. Apparently, though, there are enough multiple angles and views of events out there that together they give a fairly accurate picture of what's going on and where. Reminded me that I had seen video of that scene that made the front page of the NYT with the three bodies dead on the ground. It was a different angle and caught the explosion, but when the camera man panned to the bodies on the ground there, I knew exactly what was there. Weird war.
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Post by lebaneaver on Mar 9, 2022 18:16:07 GMT -8
Saw an interesting interview of a congressman…..dem, I think….. irritated that we’re quibbling about what IS and ISN’T allowed under NATO. We’re providing weapons and weapons systems that are effectively KILLING Russian soldiers. Thousands of Ukrainians are being slaughtered. Lots of hand wringing over a “no-fly-zone” being verboten in regards to supporting a non-NATO country. What in hell difference does it make WHAT weapons KILL the f%#*ing aggressors? We quibble over the damndest things, as if non-NATO participants live’s are less precious and valuable than ours. If Putin is going off the rails, he’s already crossed the f%#*ing Rubicon. Most of this paragraph was me paraphrasing the congressman. I agreed with the man. Can’t recall his name. Dammit. Easterner. Believe his last name started with a Q. He was pissed. At Putin and about the seemingly inhumane, nonsensical restrictions we put on ourselves that prevent us from doing the right thing in helping a nation of invaded, sovereign people, all because the nation is NOT a member of a four letter coalition. My take.
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Post by lebaneaver on Mar 9, 2022 19:02:54 GMT -8
Saw an interesting interview of a congressman…..dem, I think….. irritated that we’re quibbling about what IS and ISN’T allowed under NATO. We’re providing weapons and weapons systems that are effectively KILLING Russia soldiers. Thousands of Ukrainians are being slaughtered. Lots of hand wringing over a “no-fly-zone” being verboten in regards to supporting a non-NATO country. What in hell difference does it make WHAT weapons KILL the f%#*ing aggressors? We quibble over the damndest things, as if non-NATO participants live’s are less precious and valuable than ours. If Putin is going off the rails, he’s already crossed the f%#*ing Rubicon. Most of this paragraph was me paraphrasing the congressman. I agreed with the man. Can’t recall his name. Dammit. Easterner. Believe his last name started with a Q. He was pissed. At Putin and about the seemingly inhumane, nonsensical restrictions we put on ourselves that prevent us from doing the right thing in helping a nation of invaded, sovereign people, all because the nation is NOT a member of a four letter coalition. My take. Nice ramble Re No fly zone..watch the video a few posts prior to your ramble You can call me “Ramblin’ Rock.” I watched, and understood. Frustrating at a moral level, though.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 9, 2022 22:05:10 GMT -8
Saw an interesting interview of a congressman…..dem, I think….. irritated that we’re quibbling about what IS and ISN’T allowed under NATO. We’re providing weapons and weapons systems that are effectively KILLING Russian soldiers. Thousands of Ukrainians are being slaughtered. Lots of hand wringing over a “no-fly-zone” being verboten in regards to supporting a non-NATO country. What in hell difference does it make WHAT weapons KILL the f%#*ing aggressors? We quibble over the damndest things, as if non-NATO participants live’s are less precious and valuable than ours. If Putin is going off the rails, he’s already crossed the f%#*ing Rubicon. Most of this paragraph was me paraphrasing the congressman. I agreed with the man. Can’t recall his name. Dammit. Easterner. Believe his last name started with a Q. He was pissed. At Putin and about the seemingly inhumane, nonsensical restrictions we put on ourselves that prevent us from doing the right thing in helping a nation of invaded, sovereign people, all because the nation is NOT a member of a four letter coalition. My take. Mike Quigley (IL-5)? He's on the Intelligence Committee. I am annoyed that so much was done to try and not provoke Russia, and then Russia invaded anyway. The Russkies played NATO leadership like a fiddle. Of course, then the Russkies overestimated their actual ability to plan and conducted an offensive operation into Ukraine. Or they overestimated how much Ukrainians loved their own country and hated Russia.
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 10, 2022 10:06:48 GMT -8
Saw an interesting interview of a congressman…..dem, I think….. irritated that we’re quibbling about what IS and ISN’T allowed under NATO. We’re providing weapons and weapons systems that are effectively KILLING Russian soldiers. Thousands of Ukrainians are being slaughtered. Lots of hand wringing over a “no-fly-zone” being verboten in regards to supporting a non-NATO country. What in hell difference does it make WHAT weapons KILL the f%#*ing aggressors? We quibble over the damndest things, as if non-NATO participants live’s are less precious and valuable than ours. If Putin is going off the rails, he’s already crossed the f%#*ing Rubicon. Most of this paragraph was me paraphrasing the congressman. I agreed with the man. Can’t recall his name. Dammit. Easterner. Believe his last name started with a Q. He was pissed. At Putin and about the seemingly inhumane, nonsensical restrictions we put on ourselves that prevent us from doing the right thing in helping a nation of invaded, sovereign people, all because the nation is NOT a member of a four letter coalition. My take. Mike Quigley (IL-5)? He's on the Intelligence Committee. I am annoyed that so much was done to try and not provoke Russia, and then Russia invaded anyway. The Russkies played NATO leadership like a fiddle. Of course, then the Russkies overestimated their actual ability to plan and conducted an offensive operation into Ukraine. Or they overestimated how much Ukrainians loved their own country and hated Russia. The decision by Russia to invade Ukraine was always theirs to take. If they grossly overestimated their welcome and underestimated the lethality and endurance of Ukranian resistance, that was down to their own delusional myopia and zealotry - rather than NATO being "played". NATO can't control Russia from making stupid counterproductive military moves. NATO can help make sure the price paid by Russia and Belarus is protracted and grievous.
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