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Post by Donny on Nov 13, 2021 21:38:34 GMT -8
Why does Rueck pull his team off the court for the national anthem?
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Post by bvrbooster on Nov 13, 2021 22:00:45 GMT -8
That's never been done before. In the past, both teams are warming up, that stops, and they form lines at each end of the court. After the anthem, they return to warming up. I'm at a loss, but I wouldn't believe for a minute that's a choice Scott would make on his own.
Did they do it at the men's game as well? Anybody know anything about this?
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Post by beav1996 on Nov 13, 2021 22:19:29 GMT -8
Noticed this as well. Chalked it up as an early season oops at the time. I'm hoping it's nothing more. Not a good look if it's anything else.
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Post by sparty on Nov 14, 2021 7:53:47 GMT -8
Why does Rueck pull his team off the court for the national anthem? Where have you been? It is part of the woke culture.
Some teams either stand or kneel while others just run off the court. Either the players have decided at OSU or the administration thought it is better to just stop and run off the court. Oregon State is not the only team to do this btw. It is happening at most Pac-12 schools if not all.
I don't particularly like it much at all.
At Gonzaga they have part of the team kneeling and the other part standing, See link,
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Post by wbosh15 on Nov 14, 2021 8:13:24 GMT -8
Could be a simple timing issue related to the volleyball game, the normal pregame routines might have been thrown off.
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 14, 2021 8:29:00 GMT -8
Why does Rueck pull his team off the court for the national anthem? Where have you been? It is part of the woke culture.
Some teams either stand or kneel while others just run off the court. Either the players have decided at OSU or the administration thought it is better to just stop and run off the court. Oregon State is not the only team to do this btw. It is happening at most Pac-12 schools if not all.
I don't particularly like it much at all.
At Gonzaga they have part of the team kneeling and the other part standing, See link,
You should write Barnes a letter/email expressing your concerns. Cc Coach Rueck and team Captain Taya Corosdale. That is, if you’re really interested in reinstating the previous regimen (and not merely airing a grievance). Make sure to give your reasons. I’m sure your reasoning will be persuasive.
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Post by sparty on Nov 14, 2021 9:28:23 GMT -8
Where have you been? It is part of the woke culture.
Some teams either stand or kneel while others just run off the court. Either the players have decided at OSU or the administration thought it is better to just stop and run off the court. Oregon State is not the only team to do this btw. It is happening at most Pac-12 schools if not all.
I don't particularly like it much at all.
At Gonzaga they have part of the team kneeling and the other part standing, See link,
You should write Barnes a letter/email expressing your concerns. Cc Coach Rueck and team Captain Taya Corosdale. That is, if you’re really interested in reinstating the previous regimen (and not merely airing a grievance). Make sure to give your reasons. I’m sure your reasoning will be persuasive. You are not a veteran and I am not one either. It would be much more effective for a veteran to convey there feelings. You like the idea and I said I did not care for it much. So neither of us feel that strongly about it one way or another. Did you write your letter about scheduling exhibition games yet?
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Post by markwbeaver on Nov 14, 2021 9:30:40 GMT -8
Whatever is going on, it seems to be intentional. The team was not there for the national anthem for the exhibition against W. Wash, either. It appeared to me that the team was right outside the floor of the gym while the anthem was being played against LMU. It was just a moment after its conclusion that the team entered.
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 14, 2021 9:43:14 GMT -8
You should write Barnes a letter/email expressing your concerns. Cc Coach Rueck and team Captain Taya Corosdale. That is, if you’re really interested in reinstating the previous regimen (and not merely airing a grievance). Make sure to give your reasons. I’m sure your reasoning will be persuasive. You are not a veteran and I am not one either. It would be much more effective for a veteran to convey there feelings. You like the idea and I said I did not care for it much. So neither of us feel that strongly about it one way or another. Did you write your letter about scheduling exhibition games yet? No I’ve never written any letters to the AD about OSU’s scheduling or gameday operations. I’m inclined to let them do their jobs. If I ever encounter an issue that would prevent me from attending/watching or end my OSU affiliation I’d probably let them know in some formal way. But not being a major donor, I doubt I’d be missed. Is it your opinion that performing the national anthem before a sports event without mandating that the teams stand solemnly at attention with their hands over their hearts, is disrespectful to military veterans?
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Post by sparty on Nov 14, 2021 10:31:28 GMT -8
You are not a veteran and I am not one either. It would be much more effective for a veteran to convey there feelings. You like the idea and I said I did not care for it much. So neither of us feel that strongly about it one way or another. Did you write your letter about scheduling exhibition games yet? No I’ve never written any letters to the AD about OSU’s scheduling or gameday operations. I’m inclined to let them do their jobs. If I ever encounter an issue that would prevent me from attending/watching or end my OSU affiliation I’d probably let them know in some formal way. But not being a major donor, I doubt I’d be missed. Is it your opinion that performing the national anthem before a sports event without mandating that the teams stand solemnly at attention with their hands over their hearts, is disrespectful to military veterans? Like I said I would think we have a few veterans on here and I would like to know there opinions. For a record I don't fly an American flag outside my house and never have but there are a couple of veterans down the street and the next block over that do 365 days a year. I could guess to what their opinion are from their actions but I have not asked them about it. And it is interesting you use the word mandate. What is a mandate anyway? Was it the 25% mask compliance in the stands at the last home football game. If that is the definition of a mandate then if you had a mandate of standing before a national anthem could it still be easilyb broken with no consequences to anyone participating or not participating.
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Post by billsaab on Nov 14, 2021 10:41:16 GMT -8
I am so tired of Woke and the disrespect of patriotism that my solution stay away now and watch on tv. To disrespect a Country that stopped Fascism and Communism shows real stupidity. Since when has a School had to embrace the garbage we are told to embrace. Enough enough. We should all stand up United. Not divided or uncaring.
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 14, 2021 11:00:26 GMT -8
I am so tired of Woke and the disrespect of patriotism that my solution stay away now and watch on tv. To disrespect a Country that stopped Fascism and Communism shows real stupidity. Since when has a School had to embrace the garbage we are told to embrace. Enough enough. We should all stand up United. Not divided or uncaring. For the record I'm fine with making the players stand solemnly at attention for the playing of the anthem before a game. I'm also ok with deemphasizing this link between sports and the military (when the country isn't currently at war). A game is a game and national defense is national defense. Whatever they decide makes no difference in my appreciation or enjoyment of the game that I've come to see. I'm sure lots of countries, democracies and dictatorships, have people standing at attention for their national anthems before sporting events. I know I'm not going to change anyone's opinion. I respect your opinion and appreciate where it's coming from. (P.S. I've tried to maintain at least a tenuous connection between this topic and OSU WBB.)
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Post by beav1996 on Nov 14, 2021 11:08:46 GMT -8
I am not a Veteran, but I have friends who are Veterans who stand behind the flag as a symbol of what their service and in some cases sacrifices stood for. IMO the national anthem is symbolic for these sacrifices and symbolized by our American Flag. 30 minutes after the national anthem the PA asks that the Veterans in attendance stand to be recognized. Awesome. Thank you. I find it ironic though that the OSU WBB team is absent for the national anthem, but present while we are asked to recognize the Veterans in attendance. Can't have it both ways. If you feel inclined to excuse yourself from the anthem, then you should be excusing yourself when the Veterans stand for recognition. There are many ways to make your point or views known. Please pick another avenue that doesn't disrespect those who gave so much for you and I.
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Post by beavsteve on Nov 14, 2021 11:26:09 GMT -8
I am not a Veteran, but I have friends who are Veterans who stand behind the flag as a symbol of what their service and in some cases sacrifices stood for. IMO the national anthem is symbolic for these sacrifices and symbolized by our American Flag. 30 minutes after the national anthem the PA asks that the Veterans in attendance stand to be recognized. Awesome. Thank you. I find it ironic though that the OSU WBB team is absent for the national anthem, but present while we are asked to recognize the Veterans in attendance. Can't have it both ways. If you feel inclined to excuse yourself from the anthem, then you should be excusing yourself when the Veterans stand for recognition. There are many ways to make your point or views known. Please pick another avenue that doesn't disrespect those who gave so much for you and I. Seems to me that some of you are jumping to conclusions regarding the reasons for the team not being present for the anthem. I’ll wait for Coach Rueck to state the reasons. To think it is ironic that the team would not leave the arena during a timeout when Veterans are recognized is to believe 100% in the premise that the reason is “Woke” culture; at this point, that is quite a leap. Even if it were Woke influence, it would clearly be more awkward to leave during a timeout and also a waste of precious time for team discussions. Even before “Woke” culture arose, I’ve noticed instances where other teams have not been on the floor during the anthem… so apparently there can be other reasons for doing so. The team is there to play basketball and if Scott things his basketball goals are better served by not having them on the floor during the anthem, I’m all for it.
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 14, 2021 11:27:30 GMT -8
I am not a Veteran, but I have friends who are Veterans who stand behind the flag as a symbol of what their service and in some cases sacrifices stood for. IMO the national anthem is symbolic for these sacrifices and symbolized by our American Flag. 30 minutes after the national anthem the PA asks that the Veterans in attendance stand to be recognized. Awesome. Thank you. I find it ironic though that the OSU WBB team is absent for the national anthem, but present while we are asked to recognize the Veterans in attendance. Can't have it both ways. If you feel inclined to excuse yourself from the anthem, then you should be excusing yourself when the Veterans stand for recognition. There are many ways to make your point or views known. Please pick another avenue that doesn't disrespect those who gave so much for you and I. Again, since you feel so strongly I'd encourage you to communicate your concerns directly to Barnes and Rueck. I would not assume that they read this board or if they do, give the anonymous postings on it any serious consideration.
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