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Post by Werebeaver on Oct 19, 2021 8:35:29 GMT -8
In other words, you're not an NCAA D1 BCS Football Head Coach. Neither is Rolo. There are no current BCS coaches in college football. The BCS ended in 2013. Fair enough. FBS. |
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Post by osuft3 on Oct 19, 2021 8:37:49 GMT -8
In other words, you're not an NCAA D1 BCS Football Head Coach. How many NCAA D1 BCS Football head coaches are on Benny's house? There are quite a few who think they are, or at least can do a better job. |
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Post by greshambeaver on Oct 19, 2021 8:58:26 GMT -8
I smell a church vs state lawsuit coming right quick What, the religion of Rolovichism? |
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Post by beaverdude on Oct 19, 2021 9:00:29 GMT -8
If you don't think that pharmaceutical companies are driven by a profit motive, then you haven't been paying attention.... If you don't think that the people making the decisions are driven by profit motive then, you haven't been paying attention..... |
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Post by greshambeaver on Oct 19, 2021 9:01:03 GMT -8
all said I respect someone that will lose that big of a salary for their opinion/beliefs I'd lose my wife! |
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Post by beaverstever on Oct 19, 2021 9:03:39 GMT -8
Ah, yes - the company that donates the same drug to try and help developing countries eliminate the horrible diseases that it's proven to treat (elephantitis and river blindness) is now supressing evidence the the same drug could be stopping a disease the kills people outright. That makes sense. www.merck.com/stories/mectizan/At some point, it's the hypothesis that is wrong, not the evidence. If you don't think that pharmaceutical companies are driven by a profit motive, then you haven't been paying attention.... Oh, I am well aware. I have a niece with juvenile diabetes. How Insulin is handled the US is criminal. I can also parse that just because A is true doesn't mean B must also be true. I find your argument of "Big Pharma is corrupt, so the case of Ivermectin must be a case of corruption" as falling under an association fallacy. It's worth testing that hypothesis, I just find the evidence has proven it obviously incorrect. |
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Post by greshambeaver on Oct 19, 2021 9:05:03 GMT -8
Rolo, from everything I have read is Catholic, unless he suddenly, conveniently saw a different light. There is "no religious reason" a Catholic would reject a vaccination. He losses his argument right there.
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Post by irimi on Oct 19, 2021 9:41:19 GMT -8
Ah, yes - the company that donates the same drug to try and help developing countries eliminate the horrible diseases that it's proven to treat (elephantitis and river blindness) is now supressing evidence the the same drug could be stopping a disease the kills people outright. That makes sense. www.merck.com/stories/mectizan/At some point, it's the hypothesis that is wrong, not the evidence. If you don't think that pharmaceutical companies are driven by a profit motive, then you haven't been paying attention.... You know, pharmaceutical companies hire highly educated chemists, scientists, and medical folk to produce their medicines. There is a lot of experimentation and research to find new medicines. And then a lot of testing. None of this is free. We have great pharmaceutical companies and they are continually coming up with new, better, and safer drugs. This is expensive. And in America, the costs are passed along to the consumer. It doesn't have to be that way. The government could step in and subsidize more, or we could simply have a national health care system. Yes, costs are high for many medicines. But so are hospital bills and doctor visits and anything to do with health. Big Pharma alone isn't the issue. |
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Post by lebaneaver on Oct 19, 2021 9:48:14 GMT -8
Oh, FFS! Exorcism....Hydroxychloroquine.....ingesting bleach.....UV light..... horse de-wormer....vitamins......methylene chloride....chorline dioxide.....any witches brew one chooses to endorse, REGARDLESS of any REAL scientific/medical/actual/SANE evaluation or research (REAL research...not YouTube). ALL B.S. ALL debuked. ALL. This isn't about "medical freedom," or freedom of ANY kind. Idiotic ideology is what THIS is about. Some horse s%#t notion that THIS vaccine is some VAST conspiracy to POISON hundreds of millions of people. My God! To WHAT end? Rolo is responsible for being fired. PERIOD. We ALL have to abide by rules and regulations of the work-force. ALL of us...... OR.....there are consequences. We ALL have to abide by laws.....OR....there are consequences. "Anti-mandate," my ass. Rebels without a CLUE.
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Post by TheGlove on Oct 19, 2021 9:50:06 GMT -8
Per Wilner:
Section 1.2.1 of Rolovich's contract requires him "to comply with and support all rules, regulations, policies, and decisions established or issued by the University."
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Post by obf on Oct 19, 2021 9:59:46 GMT -8
"Medicine is a science of uncertainty and an art of probability."--Dr. William Osler (Founder of Johns Hopkins University). So what? How does a 100 year old quote about a rapidly changing field like medicine have relevance today? If Ossler were alive today, he would be lost in his own field. If Ossler was alive today.... He would be encouraging everyone to get vaccinated  |
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Post by spudbeaver on Oct 19, 2021 10:04:06 GMT -8
My two cents: I get that public health mandates could be abused by nefarious purposes, but I have simply found that those in opposition of public health efforts against covid that are common to most countries to be of the following categories: - Evidence of poor math and statistical skills. Often the sources offered for their argument actually doesn’t support the position stated. - Evidence of poor logic skills - often combined with the previous point - Evidence of poor research skills - crawling the web until you find something that supports your position is not research. When I was a grad student at OSU, my lab results often were not in support of how I wanted my thesis conclusion to look. Turns out my hypothesis was wrong, not the test results. - Evidence of just not liking being told what to do - some people are just perpetual teenagers. The evidence I’ve seen suggests this is where Rolo fits. In the end, we are a terribly flawed species - that ultimately is what this evidence is proving for me. This made me smile while I was reading it! Ironic as it is, I feel exactly the same way about people on the other side of the issue, except of course the last point. Those people seem to like to be told and to tell others what to do. Thank You! |
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Post by spudbeaver on Oct 19, 2021 10:04:54 GMT -8
Reports are that WSU's application for a religious exemption to playing BYU this weekend was also denied. Tough week for the Coug's. Wait, which Cougs? |
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Post by Judge Smails on Oct 19, 2021 10:06:38 GMT -8
Reports are that WSU's application for a religious exemption to playing BYU this weekend was also denied. Tough week for the Coug's. Wait, which Cougs? The players' moms? |
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Post by obf on Oct 19, 2021 10:11:22 GMT -8
Rolo, from everything I have read is Catholic, unless he suddenly, conveniently saw a different light. There is "no religious reason" a Catholic would reject a vaccination. He losses his argument right there. The only religion that I know of that is anti vaccination is "Christian Scientists"... Which IMHO is a highly ironic name. They are also the folks who will let their kid die because they refuse a simple operation like an apendectomy. "If God's will is for him to live then GOD will save him", that type of drek. Don't get me wrong, I am a bible loving, God fearing christian myself, just don't think that is how God works. But that is a disscussion for a different day. In reality there isn't a blanket religious reason for exemption.... However, I know multiple people who have recieved exemptions at this point and they all boil down to the same issue: Fetal Tissue
Many Vaccines (not just covid vaccines) use fetal tissue to be grown in, or use them for testing, etc. The argument basically boils down to not knowing exactly where that fetal tissue comes from. Most pharmacutical companies claim that all of their fetal tissue comes from natural occuring losses that have been donated by the mother. All you have to do is to write a letter of exception saying you don't morally agree with using fetal tissue at all, or that you are worried people are aborting for profit and you get your exception approved.
Most of the people *I* know writing these letters don't actually care one way or the other (in fact most are very purposefully non-religious), they just don't want to take the vaccine because they don't want to be told what to do. Which, honestly, is an emotion and can sympathize with.
As a Catholic maybe Rolovich really does feel very strongly about abortion and fetus' in general. |
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