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Post by TheGlove on Oct 19, 2021 6:08:13 GMT -8
According to ESPN, he was likely granted the religious exemption, so it wasn’t the reason he was fired anyway ESPN states that he was terminated because the accommodations required would prohibit him from doing his job as head coach. An article in the Seattle Times about a week ago explained that the process has two parts. First is the petition to be excused on basis of religious belief. The second part is when a supervisor determines if you can continue to fulfill your duties without endangering the public. They said a researcher in his office alone most of the day could, but a food service worker in the dining halls couldn’t. Obviously, head coach has a lot of face time with the public, so it would be a hard sell. In the press conference with WSU President and AD, Patrick Chun confirmed that Rolovich was fired “for cause”. Regardless of the outcome of Rolos exemption case, the AD determined that they couldn’t accommodate his unvaccinated status and he wasn’t able to do his job. 3 straight wins seems to contradict this position. 4 assistants that make far less money were also fired for cause. So 5 coaches are out, essentially 1/2 of the paid coaching staff. So they will have to fill those spots with much less experienced staff like Operations and Grad Assistants. DeLaura tweeted his support for Rolo. I’m sure others feel the same, but my guess is that the players that back the vax mandate are being quiet at this tense time. Can you imagine being recruited via Zoom by the Cougs and everyone else is coming into your home and/or going to your games in person? As the AD opined, this a complete mess and he’s taking the blame for making a bad hire 2 years ago. Some wonder if there were other reasons why they want to get rid of him and this was an opportunity to do it. Coogs announce their interim HC Dickert today, he was DC and was vaccinated in May. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Oct 19, 2021 6:11:13 GMT -8
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Post by zzufrevaeb on Oct 19, 2021 6:25:59 GMT -8
Supreme Court ruled many years ago that Religious exemptions did not need to be backed up by any organization or church. It is legally defined as ones own personal convictions. According to ESPN, he was likely granted the religious exemption, so it wasn’t the reason he was fired anyway ESPN states that he was terminated because the accommodations required would prohibit him from doing his job as head coach. An article in the Seattle Times about a week ago explained that the process has two parts. First is the petition to be excused on basis of religious belief. The second part is when a supervisor determines if you can continue to fulfill your duties without endangering the public. They said a researcher in his office alone most of the day could, but a food service worker in the dining halls couldn’t. Obviously, head coach has a lot of face time with the public, so it would be a hard sell. This is exactly it and why he was fired for cause. The accommodations part. Pretty cut and dry. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Oct 19, 2021 6:27:42 GMT -8
I respect the man for drawing the line, and standing up for what he feels is right. I wish him the best. That’s all fun and games when you don’t have other people’s athletic careers riding on “what you feel is right”. He just single-handedly tanked the program placed in his care. Too bad he can’t see past the end of his own nose. I see nothing noble or exemplary in this stupefyingly selfish blunder. |
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Post by irimi on Oct 19, 2021 6:42:11 GMT -8
Finally, somebody with principles and balls stepped up. Let this be a lesson to WSU and the state of Washington. This tyranny needs to stop. And on the strictly practical side, at this point it is not the unvaccinated people who are spreading the disease. Vaccinated people are the infected ones who are spreading the disease. And the majority of those who are not vaccinated are either too young to be affected adversely, or who have already caught the disease and have natural immunity. The sheep in Oregon and Washington who bow down to these authorities -- I have zero respect for your cowardice. As Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Finally, somebody with principles and balls stepped up and fired this man. Let this be a lesson to all who ascribe to “doing their own research,” “my liberties (before the public’s)” and fear-mongering. Maybe wilkyisdashiznit wants to chime in on your misinterpretation of Benjamin Franklin’s initial quote. If he chooses to let it lie, know that this quote doesn’t mean what you think it means. LOL |
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Post by Werebeaver on Oct 19, 2021 6:55:15 GMT -8
Finally, somebody with principles and balls stepped up. Let this be a lesson to WSU and the state of Washington. This tyranny needs to stop. And on the strictly practical side, at this point it is not the unvaccinated people who are spreading the disease. Vaccinated people are the infected ones who are spreading the disease. And the majority of those who are not vaccinated are either too young to be affected adversely, or who have already caught the disease and have natural immunity. The sheep in Oregon and Washington who bow down to these authorities -- I have zero respect for your cowardice. As Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Finally, somebody with principles and balls stepped up and fired this man. Let this be a lesson to all who ascribe to “doing their own research,” “my liberties (before the public’s)” and fear-mongering. Maybe wilkyisdashiznit wants to chime in on your misinterpretation of Benjamin Franklin’s initial quote. If he chooses to let it lie, know that this quote doesn’t mean what you think it means. LOL While I doubt this will go to court, if it did I'd be very curious to see the full nature of Rolo's claim for exemption, which would be made public in the process. |
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Post by beaverdude on Oct 19, 2021 7:02:53 GMT -8
So you are unvaccinated for COVID. What are your reasons? OK, I'll play 1. 2 of my siblings had adverse reactions to the vaxx, 1 required hospitalization. 2. My risk is low. I work from home and live in a rural area 3. I'm relatively healthy 4. I avoid crowds and observe mask and social distancing 5. I don't take medication unless its absolutely necessary (that includes aspirin/ibuprophen) |
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Post by irimi on Oct 19, 2021 7:15:57 GMT -8
Finally, somebody with principles and balls stepped up and fired this man. Let this be a lesson to all who ascribe to “doing their own research,” “my liberties (before the public’s)” and fear-mongering. Maybe wilkyisdashiznit wants to chime in on your misinterpretation of Benjamin Franklin’s initial quote. If he chooses to let it lie, know that this quote doesn’t mean what you think it means. LOL You imagine the unvaccinated as being a threat to -- whom, exactly? Other unvaccinateds? How is that contrary to the interests of the vaccinated "public" if the vaccines work? Are you presuming that the vaccines don't work? If they don't work, why do you insist on people getting vaccinated? But the evidence is that they DON'T work in terms of preventing you from catching Covid. They just prevent you from being symptomatic, so that we vaccinated people can go around and spread it to our fellows in the "public". If the vaccines DO work, then why are you so interested in protecting the unvaccinated from their fellow unvaccinated? YOU and your cowardly "public" won't be affected, so why not keep your nose out of their business? You feel a need to act as lord and savior of unvaccinated people? Because you love them? Your attitude, your sense of righteousness in lording over other people's business, is despicable.Right back atcha! Because vaccines work best when a majority of the population has been inoculated. There is always going to be a percentage of ineffectiveness and when that is compounded with a great number of people remaining unvaccinated, then we have opportunity for mutation of the virus, which may cause a greater drop in efficacy of the original vaccine. It isn’t hard, but it does take careful contemplation and understanding how viruses work and how vaccines work. If we are facing a global pandemic (and we are), then the best response is a public response. Anything less than 100% cooperation by the public jeopardizes the recovery, but, of course, 100% is unattainable, so we need to set more realistic goals. I’m a coward? The rest of the vaccinated public are also cowards? I think that term best suits those who are afraid to get the vaccine. Well, coward or idiot. One or the other. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Oct 19, 2021 7:20:13 GMT -8
So you are unvaccinated for COVID. What are your reasons? OK, I'll play 1. 2 of my siblings had adverse reactions to the vaxx, 1 required hospitalization. 2. My risk is low. I work from home and live in a rural area 3. I'm relatively healthy 4. I avoid crowds and observe mask and social distancing 5. I don't take medication unless its absolutely necessary (that includes aspirin/ibuprophen) In other words, you're not an NCAA D1 BCS Football Head Coach. |
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Post by irimi on Oct 19, 2021 7:24:13 GMT -8
Finally, somebody with principles and balls stepped up and fired this man. Let this be a lesson to all who ascribe to “doing their own research,” “my liberties (before the public’s)” and fear-mongering. Maybe wilkyisdashiznit wants to chime in on your misinterpretation of Benjamin Franklin’s initial quote. If he chooses to let it lie, know that this quote doesn’t mean what you think it means. LOL While I doubt this will go to court, if it did I'd be very curious to see the full nature of Rolo's claim for exemption, which would be made public in the process. The fact that it was approved sort of irks me. In the end, instant replay got the call right, though. |
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Post by fisher47 on Oct 19, 2021 7:43:52 GMT -8
Rolovich and his 4 assistants are definitely the outlier at WSU as 90% of WSU employees and 97% of students have been vaccinated.
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Post by beaverstever on Oct 19, 2021 7:45:57 GMT -8
My two cents:
I get that public health mandates could be abused by nefarious purposes, but I have simply found that those in opposition of public health efforts against covid that are common to most countries to be of the following categories:
- Evidence of poor math and statistical skills. Often the sources offered for their argument actually doesn’t support the position stated.
- Evidence of poor logic skills - often combined with the previous point
- Evidence of poor research skills - crawling the web until you find something that supports your position is not research. When I was a grad student at OSU, my lab results often were not in support of how I wanted my thesis conclusion to look. Turns out my hypothesis was wrong, not the test results.
- Evidence of just not liking being told what to do - some people are just perpetual teenagers. The evidence I’ve seen suggests this is where Rolo fits.
In the end, we are a terribly flawed species - that ultimately is what this evidence is proving for me.
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Post by Judge Smails on Oct 19, 2021 7:47:24 GMT -8
Reports are that WSU's application for a religious exemption to playing BYU this weekend was also denied.
Tough week for the Coug's.
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Post by beaverdude on Oct 19, 2021 7:55:17 GMT -8
In other words, you're not an NCAA D1 BCS Football Head Coach. How many NCAA D1 BCS Football head coaches are on Benny's house? |
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Post by Judge Smails on Oct 19, 2021 8:05:09 GMT -8
OK, I'll play 1. 2 of my siblings had adverse reactions to the vaxx, 1 required hospitalization. 2. My risk is low. I work from home and live in a rural area 3. I'm relatively healthy 4. I avoid crowds and observe mask and social distancing 5. I don't take medication unless its absolutely necessary (that includes aspirin/ibuprophen) In other words, you're not an NCAA D1 BCS Football Head Coach. Neither is Rolo. There are no current BCS coaches in college football. The BCS ended in 2013. |
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