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Post by obf on Jul 28, 2021 9:48:00 GMT -8
I know it's impossible, but I'd like to see all Div. 1 teams thrown into a hopper every year, then you just draw ping pong balls to make 10 groups of 13. I can't even imagine what kind of buzz would be generated for a college football conference draft lottery every year. Everyone plays the other 12 teams in their group, the league winners and then 6 at large teams are selected for the 16 team playoff. Teams that don't make the final 16 can be invited to a "bowl" game (eliminate the winning record requirement so everyone gets a 13th game). I just made an excel sheet with all 130 teams and here's the 10 groups for my fictional 2021 football season: Group 1 | Group 2 | Group 3 | Group 4 | Group 5 | Group 6 | Group 7 | Group 8 | Group 9 | Group 10 | Pittsburgh | BC | Minnesota | Va Tech | Ark St | BYU | Cincinnati | Toledo | Ole Miss | Utah | Baylor
| Mizzou | TCU | ECU | La Tech | ODU | Iowa St | SJSU | Memphis | NMSU | Southern Miss | Ball St | Kansas St. | Auburn | Virginia | Utah St | Arizona | Utah | UAB | UConn | Nevada | Wyoming | WVU | Fresno St | Arizona St | Temple | Houston | UCLA | Georgia | UTSA | Iowa | Georgia St | Texas | Charlotte | Alabama | Liberty | Duke | Army | South Car | Stanford | Mississippi St | UNLV | Navy | Kent St | Wazzu | WKU | Boise St | Syracuse | Texas Tech | Ohio St | Marshall | LSU | Oklahoma | SDSU | SMU | App St | Notre Dame | Illinois | Kentucky | TAMU | Texas St | MTSU | Wisconsin | Coastal Car. | Kansas | Akron | ULM | Tulsa | Michgan St | Troy | Washington | Clemson | Miami (OH) | Florida St | Arkansas | Maryland | Wake Forest | Bowling Green | FIU | Nebraska | Hawaii | Michigan | Penn St | North Texas | Oklahoma St | Ohio | Northwestern | Buffalo | Vanderbilt | Tulane | USC | Florida | Ga Tech | California | UCF | Air Force | Rice | South Florida | Purdue | NC State | Rutgers | Lousiana | Eastern Mich | Central Mich | Oregon St | New Mexico | Colorado | South Ala. | West Mich | North Carolina | Northern Illinois | Ga Sou. | Miami (FL) | Louisville | FAU | Tennessee | Colorado St. | UMass | Indiana | Oregon |
Props to Tennessee for automatically winning Group 6. Tough draw for us with Alabama. Love that Miami(OH) and Miami(FL) get to play each other. Maybe we do these groups for two season so everyone plays the other home and home and then move on to a new cycle, though I think the annual ping pong ball selection show would be a ratings bonanza and likely we keep this on a one year deal. I LOVE this idea! Maybe instead of teams beingthrown into the hopper individualy, they are thrown in pairs? Oregon state and uofO for instance, so natural rivalries can be maintained? Heck each year the pairs can be choosenin a lottery too. Throw OSU, uofO, UW and WSU in a hopper and pick out two at a time. Or the entire pac12 north and pick out 2 at a time.
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Post by beavaristotle on Jul 28, 2021 12:48:58 GMT -8
The hot topic on Midwest local radio is a pac 12 - big 10 moving to form a super league and leave the big 12 leftovers hanging. Better grab a chair when the music stops playing
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Post by OSUprof on Jul 28, 2021 13:26:19 GMT -8
The hot topic on Midwest local radio is a pac 12 - big 10 moving to form a super league and leave the big 12 leftovers hanging. Better grab a chair when the music stops playing That's a real possibility.
There is also a big danger in that OSU and some other schools that are barely hanging on to the bottom of the Power 5 may get left out of a realignment of conferences. This realignment of conferences may contingent on the certain performance metrics in order to qualify for a share of the new conference's revenues. OSU is dead last in the Power 5 in investment in football and is dead last in the Power 5 in combined number of winning seasons in MBB and football over the last 3 decades.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 28, 2021 13:28:08 GMT -8
We are about to make a $150+million investment in football that should change those numbers considerably.
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Post by orangeattack on Jul 28, 2021 14:09:29 GMT -8
The hot topic on Midwest local radio is a pac 12 - big 10 moving to form a super league and leave the big 12 leftovers hanging. Better grab a chair when the music stops playing That's a real possibility.
There is also a big danger in that OSU and some other schools that are barely hanging on to the bottom of the Power 5 may get left out of a realignment of conferences. This realignment of conferences may contingent on the certain performance metrics in order to qualify for a share of the new conference's revenues. OSU is dead last in the Power 5 in investment in football and is dead last in the Power 5 in combined number of winning seasons in MBB and football over the last 3 decades.
those are sobering numbers.
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Post by beavs6 on Jul 28, 2021 15:05:30 GMT -8
The hot topic on Midwest local radio is a pac 12 - big 10 moving to form a super league and leave the big 12 leftovers hanging. Better grab a chair when the music stops playing That's a real possibility.
There is also a big danger in that OSU and some other schools that are barely hanging on to the bottom of the Power 5 may get left out of a realignment of conferences. This realignment of conferences may contingent on the certain performance metrics in order to qualify for a share of the new conference's revenues. OSU is dead last in the Power 5 in investment in football and is dead last in the Power 5 in combined number of winning seasons in MBB and football over the last 3 decades.
This is my fear as well. I would like to see a Pac-12/BIG 10 Super Conference
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Post by irimi on Jul 28, 2021 15:28:43 GMT -8
The hot topic on Midwest local radio is a pac 12 - big 10 moving to form a super league and leave the big 12 leftovers hanging. Better grab a chair when the music stops playing That's a real possibility.
There is also a big danger in that OSU and some other schools that are barely hanging on to the bottom of the Power 5 may get left out of a realignment of conferences. This realignment of conferences may contingent on the certain performance metrics in order to qualify for a share of the new conference's revenues. OSU is dead last in the Power 5 in investment in football and is dead last in the Power 5 in combined number of winning seasons in MBB and football over the last 3 decades.
Certainly, OSU has changed over those 30 years. We still don’t have the sports culture that exists in Columbus, though I think our duck-cousins sort of do. But we are changing. We have seen enough limited success to get fired up, and if the football team can post some positive gains, you’ll see the support. Look what happened with WBB and the Baseball program, and it will happen with MBB. If you take numbers from the 80s and 90s when we were setting records for ineptitude, we won’t match up with anyone.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 28, 2021 17:25:17 GMT -8
We are about to make a $150+million investment in football that should change those numbers considerably. And we had winning men's basketball teams in 2021, 2020, 2019, 2016 and 2015, and .500 teams in 2018 and 2014. So we've had one losing season (2017) since 2013. We are not a losing program in the eyes of kids we're recruiting these days.
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Post by giantkillers83 on Jul 28, 2021 18:46:14 GMT -8
Prof isn’t wrong….. Beavs are in backseat of a runaway train going over cliff without seat restraints…. Nothing they can do.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 28, 2021 19:19:15 GMT -8
Prof isn’t wrong….. Beavs are in backseat of a runaway train going over cliff without seat restraints…. Nothing they can do. If the Pac-12 just stays patient, stays at 12 and lets the new commish do his job, we will be fine. Bigger is not automatically better.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jul 28, 2021 21:40:36 GMT -8
Prof isn’t wrong….. Beavs are in backseat of a runaway train going over cliff without seat restraints…. Nothing they can do. If the Pac-12 just stays patient, stays at 12 and lets the new commish do his job, we will be fine. Bigger is not automatically better. From a business standpoint, it's long been said that "if you ain't growing, you're dying". In the long history of collegiate football there's not generally been a lot of urgency all of the time, but this could be one of those times it's urgent. Texas/Okahoma/SEC just threw a big wrench into the works that has immediate repercussions to the Big 12 and will likely send big ripples to other leagues in college sports. On a side note, I just saw this Now here's a collusion theory... which could bring up another whole set of confusion into things if true.
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Post by jdogge on Jul 28, 2021 21:57:35 GMT -8
Prof isn’t wrong….. Beavs are in backseat of a runaway train going over cliff without seat restraints…. Nothing they can do. Intercollegiate athletics will be gone from public universities and collegs by 2030.
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Post by jdogge on Jul 28, 2021 22:00:58 GMT -8
We are about to make a $150+million investment in football that should change those numbers considerably. You may see that put on hold awhile.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 28, 2021 22:36:12 GMT -8
If the Pac-12 just stays patient, stays at 12 and lets the new commish do his job, we will be fine. Bigger is not automatically better. From a business standpoint, it's long been said that "if you ain't growing, you're dying". In the long history of collegiate football there's not generally been a lot of urgency all of the time, but this could be one of those times it's urgent. Texas/Okahoma/SEC just threw a big wrench into the works that has immediate repercussions to the Big 12 and will likely send big ripples to other leagues in college sports. On a side note, I just saw this Now here's a collusion theory... which could bring up another whole set of confusion into things if true. Maybe. Sometimes the best moves are the ones you don't make; the Big Ten looks as if it may stand pat too. And there are many ways to grow; grow your current business, but split the money among the current members is a prudent approach. Each school should realize a million in added revenue just by cutting Scott's lavish Pac-12 expenses. I still think adding UT and OU to SEC football is gonna cause some real problems with the lower half of the league.
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